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    News Gubby accepts 12 month ban and resigns

    The suffix -ol usually means beta agonist, the most common form of that is Ventolin for asthma. If youve ever had that you get fast heart and feel a little on edge. Rather than the local effects on the airways, ingesting or intranasally taking the drug will give you systemic effects, so more on...
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    News Gubby accepts 12 month ban and resigns

    Clenbuterol is a sympathomimetic, which means you can cut down the active ingredient in cocaine while increasing the filler. That allows a greater weight, decrease in the expensive cocaine element of the compound while at the same time giving the same physiological effects with the aid of the...
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    List Mgmt. Aisho Going Elsewhere

    I think this is all posturing from Brisbane in order to extract a better deal. I can't imagine why any club would cut off its own nose to spite its face like this. Brisbane needs to ask itself why players are getting homesick all of a sudden. When they were a successful, well run organisation...
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    Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

    I'm proposing using a cheap drug to supplement a more expensive one while making the expensive one seem more effective at a margin of the cost
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    Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

    So for 50mg of powder that's the equivalent to 2500 20mcg tablets. That seems pretty cheap to me. The power of maths. My point is you'd cut it with the tablets to give volume to the cocaine powder, not incredibly high doses of raw product.
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    Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

    Is that extrapolated using the dose of Clenbuterol in a tablet? The doses of beta agonists are calculated in micrograms, that's the amount required for physical and effect. So 20mcg or 0.00002g is enough to produce the effects. The weight of the physical tablets is much more than that. The...
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    Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

    I'm not ignoring it, you said Clenbuterol is $7 a gram. The ACC website you quoted says cocaine is between $250-1000 a gram depending on location. Unless you've quoted me an incorrect figure on the Clenbuterol, I'm not sure where you're getting that from?
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    Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

    That's some unusual logic. If you have a look at one of my earlier posts there's some things about beta-agonists being adrenergic, which means they act on sympathetic pathways, producing many of the responses you would get with cocaine. So it makes sense from that perspective. If you can use a...
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    Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

    You're right that does make sense but that doesn't mean they aren't telling the truth.
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    Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

    Thanks for the ACC link, it's quite interesting to read how much some of this stuff is worth. Cocaine is about $250-1000 a gram so it could be quite economical to cut it with Clenbuterol if you want to enhance the effects of the drug while minimising the product.
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    Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

    I just think the illicit drugs story, the one that the players themselves admit to, is more plausible than a conspiracy theory involving players, lawyers and club. I have a tough time believing that players would take a known performance enhancing drug, one that a quick google search will tell...
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    Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

    http://m.theage.com.au/afl/collingwood-magpies/asada-boss-says-crosscontamination-is-no-excuse-for-clenbuterol-20150417-1mngnt.html It's stated here that McDevitt seems to believe it's one of the substances used regularly. I'm assuming there is some evidence, even anecdotal behind that.
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    Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

    I also just had a look at urinary excretion of each of Clenbuterol vs benzoylecgonine. Clenbuterol can be present at 14 days while cocaine substrates are typically 4-5 days, so the absence of matching samples is very likely to be related to timing. The other thing I noticed in the press...
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    Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

    I obviously don't know, neither would anyone. I'm not familiar if they test for cocaine substrates in PED testing. However, I would assume as it's considered an illicit drug and give the AFL drug policies, it would be a confidential strike that isn't permitted to be divulged under the AFL's 3...
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    Collingwood’s Josh Thomas, Lachie Keeffe accept two-year bans for taking banned drug clenbuterol

    I don't often post in these forums but there is a lot of pseudo science and misinformation being thrown around these forums about Clenbuterol. I have a medical background and have had a look into some of the evidence behind Clenbuterol and performance enhancement. First off Clenbuterol is an...
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