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Ill try once more. YOu buy a meal, it costs you $20 if its not that great then youre dissapointed but probably not suprised. If you buy a meal and it costs $80 and its not that great well youre going to pissed.

Isn't it natural to expect more from a player when they're on big money and cost high draft picks? isn't it the nature of free markets? I don't get your logic Tiger.

yep, he sort of played a little bit like MAC, but he also showed good composure and courage during this game.

Richo is light years ahead of Hopper even when he was questionable with his goalkicking. Tiger OF Old, get your comparisons right :)

Hopper already had one really good game. there you go. :cool:

I honestly didnt get the hugo hate. I though he had something from the first game I saw him play. I'm glad he had a good game.

I wouldn't write him off just yet, the team is not settled and it would be a nightmare to deal with all the changes and new kids finding their feat.

Well then.....we are going to just have to differ on Hopper. lets leave it at that.

can I ask what makes Hopper more special than any other player on our list? Anyone and everyone should get dropped if poor form is the norm. If he plays well Ill be the first to say it.

is he more special than any other player on our list?

If he underperforms regularly, then yes. Or is carrying an injury.

let me clear this up, I don't hate on him as a person, NOT GLAD he got injured, I just don't like his disposal which is a midfielder's biggest and most important skill requirement. When and if he gets his game together I will gladly say it, but on the whole, it's been s**t vs his pay packet...

Pay packet is always a big deal, if a player gets 500K a year vs a player who is getting 150k, then there should be an expectation to perform. We can't be bashing the kids on minimal wages and turn a blind eye to players getting much more money? So when you call us Flogs I call us insightful...

off course I pulled it out of my ass, I'm not one to quote stats to prove a point, just watch the game. To be fair I was really paying attention to his disposals and play this game so I guess the microscope was on.

it had nothing to do with our inexperienced players running out of juice? 23 disposals of what? no point getting it 23 times and giving it away 15 times ?

FOR a start....lets begine at the biggining... Hopper hasnt played much football that is = to his pay packet since he has been at the club, actualy if you open your eyes you may notice that its way below his pay packet. Last night he did 3 -4 good things and spamed it up nearly every time he...

hugo was great last night, a lot of the kids are starting to come up to speed. We just needed some more class and polish, but it will get there.

wtf are you talking about, see how he used the ball? about as good as his team mate. Sloppy and bad at kicking, open your eye and watch the game.

Dow >>>>>way better than Hopper, who is as good as TT in using the footy. Hugo haters, he played twice as good as Hopper. Dont like to see any player get injured, but he isnt a mids arshole.

GEELONG ON TOP once f ing more. how the f do they do it?:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

ONly because he makes a contest, and is hard at it. does some good things but lots of fluffs too

that's no excuse, ive picked out a number of mistakes and was proven right. Just because theyre on the inside doesnt mean they know everything. its like how some companies employ people outside of the industry because they want a fresh look. AND this is big footy, its what we do...

we have played MUCH WORSE PLAYERS for more. we all know he can play (most of us anyway) . Make or break this year. 5 game string and we know where we are.

why would you take young out, probably one of our best defenders.

what is the difference between pick 3 vs pick 4 or 5 over the years? not a given.

any coach or player worth their salt wants to win games, you want to destroy team and culture? start tanking and that will be a quick way to ruin.

I don't have the patience to watch and analyse our losses like I used to back in the dark old days. I'll watch the games nowadays (this year) on delay with kayo and fast forward when i get too pissed off.

Needs to take up boxing or MMA. Like a baby giraffe amongst men.

I think we all went through that phase.

spot on, TT and hopper in wouldve made zero to a small difference. our deficiencies were elsewhere. PS. not that they've been class disposers of the footy in anycase. they would be half good only in a fully functioning midfield.