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You gotta love a good stat.

Finally you interpret a post correctly.

I meant 2025 - and have correct post. Not why I thought Reef had a contract for next year.

Thanks - I definitely thought he’d signed till 2025.

The only reason is if they don’t show potential, they won’t get an extension, unlike both Finn and Reef who have contracts for 2025.

And all of a sudden his small size and average mobility for a KPF becomes an issue.

agree - the sanction should be mandatory exclusion of the player for minimum concussion protocol of 12 days. No club gives a rats about a fine - but a mandatory exclusion would make them toe the line.

Exactly - which makes it quite understandable that we offered him sabbatical only after winning the flag. So going to back to your earlier post - it’s not ODD at all.

If you think he’s stringing us along taking a sabbatical, when he had no intention of returning, then I think you have misjudged his integrity.

If wasn’t committed he would have declined the sabbatical- so that we could find a replacement.

Odd? How many years goes a guy have to work to earn some extended time off. AFTER being instrumental in winning a Flag. It’s not as if we have him sabbatical after winning spoon!

Sadly - they forget the patience needed for talls to develop. And then want them cut, to only later complain Hine doesn’t pick talls. It’s illogical.

To all the critics of Reef - Amartey is 24 and now making his mark. At 21 he was skinny and looked ordinary Talls take time.

It’s seems a Leopard doesn’t change it’s spots.

And where was Hine at that time, and through out the 2010-2023 period when we’ve played final, PF’s GF’s and won flags? I hope the point is now obvious.

Agree - at that size with blistering pace and above average ground game, we definitely need to give him time. It would be the height of stupidity to trade him.

Who won in 2010 - just asking for a friend.

Barass is not the man IMO - he has back issues https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/west-coast-defender-tom-barrass-opens-up-on-career-threatening-back-injury-that-hinders-him-still-c-13550647

Carlton, Melb, Richmond and Ess were finding talented 18yo’s and did nothing with them for years. Haw have spent 4 years at the bottom to get talent to hopefully win a flag. The analysis proves nothing, let alone an indictment of Hine. We contend and win flags that’s the only metric needed to...

So both were impressive when we clawed our way back into Top 4 but are now duds? That’s completely illogical.

Agree - and would add the fastest way to develop youth, is too ensure they have experienced mentors and leaders. That ensures far more productive list management, as those who won’t make are released early, and those with significant upside nurtured and prioritized.

Barass has got a chronic back problem- pass

I think Mitchell would prefer to see Ginnivan play like Schultz - effort application and focus, every week.

Ok - I thought there was another rumour.

Please - Savoy is the ONLY cracker

What rumour?

Why would we listen to these “others”?

I think you need to provide relevant comparisons to Top teams. Relativity is the only way you can substantiate your claims. Over to you.

I thinks it’s an off field overuse injury 😜

Do either have the knowledge and networks and experience of GW - it’s not an issues if he’s their as mentor. If not then I’d say we need to find a best available.