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I think it is so very, very sad. Forever wanting to be like their cross town big brother. No success No members No money No players No F&&%ing Idea I went to a Freo game last year at Optus (actually more than one) and the supporters around me were interested in the WCE score (they were...

Priceless - absolutely priceless. Incredibly stupid nonetheless ... but so priceless. Freo ... supporters - what can one say?

Not even close to the worst post - head over the Freo board - my God what a bunch of ferals. You guys haven't done too badly today. Beating us over here is a very tough - even huge task. And it's not over yet.

Oh ... so you are the defender of others. :relieved:

Not sure if that is designed to make you feel better or position you as the champion of others. "Any fact finding process is bedeviled with difficulties. Fact!" That's why we have the law. "A verdict is, therefore, not infallible. Fact!" Because no one knew that until you informed everyone...

How come there are so many aggressive dumb people posting here? You can believe what you want but the facts are the facts. I do not recall arguing that it didn't happen! I am always amazed at how stupid people write something down - completely misrepresenting what has been noted - and then...

Well good to see you agree with my summary of your post. Nice to see you continuing to make substantive points. ;)

Two of those claims have not been proven or even close to being proved - so perhaps you're cooked? Give it a rest and hope that you are never the subject of your own, "guilty until proven innocent" behaviour.

There is no victim until a crime has been proven. To be a victim of a crime requires a criminal act. Fact! A charge is simply ... a charge. it is but one incomplete side of the equation. Fact! The evidence has not been tested against the rules of evidence in court. Fact! Speculative sentences...

Why are some of the Richmond fans so salty whenever someone dares mention that perhaps they are not the best? Maybe, West Coast was not the best side over the last 4 years? I couldn't care what people think about that. I went to the game and watched them win - awesome experience. What people...

Yep ... losing to the Hawks in R23 cooked our goose for 2019 - no doubt! Very ordinary performance. However, GWS were probably not even close to being GF prepared. Richmond got an easy opponent and good for you guys because a GF win is a GF win - I would take it - gladly. To answer the...

"If a player dogs it by trying to kill a teenager he loses the right to claim bad luck." Well ... that's not even close to the truth. Jeez ... the crap that some will push simply they support a particular team.

Seriously ... the Richmond team is a very good team but they played very ordinary opposition in the GF last year. Compared to 2018 ... the game was very boring. To come from 5 goals down and grind out a win with skill and class across the remaining 3 quarters was possibly one of the best games...

"McGowans restrictions relaxation measures (which I missed but was told by the neighbor) gives me confidence that maybe just maybe by October we might have a crowd at Optus so I can dream about attending a GF.:)" Now that would make me (and many others no doubt) feel better about the world -...

"Where did I state there's no room for opinions other than mine?" Well at the risk of debating you on a simple point - would you not classify "stfu" as emotive? And telling someone to "stfu" basically says to the other person to not say anything and ... well ... "stfu" Put simply, telling...

Oh good God - duplicity personified. You state, "I'll leave your emotive comments ... out of it" And then you go on to note, "... I say stfu and follow something else if it bothers one that much." And that's not emotive ... is it? Geez ... no room for alternative opinions allowed in your...

"... whiny victim based opinions" Should read, fact based opinions. Sadly, I think you're right about WA missing out on hosting games. Chairman / Commandant McGowan has fixed that. Frankly, I couldn't care less now as the season is absolutely shot. Whoever wins the GF (inc the asterisk that...

"Let me try & figure out how this relates to the topic of this thread (this May be quite a stretch)" Seriously, so instead of dealing with the facts you revert back to the topic of the first post? Have you read all of the posts in this thread? Does each and every post relate to the first post...

Hmm ... it's not the point exactly ... now ... is it? It's is a more a marker of how much the Vic teams and AFL (VFL) behaviour has not changed. My point is that many Vic clubs were kept afloat on others people's money and things haven't changed much! Yes ... it's been 30 years ... so when...

Read all of your pathetic posts and the only thought that came to mind ... Troll Alert!! And it's still a fact - no matter what you say - it's fact! You guys have had a dole bludgers mentality since 1987. Here's some more facts for you...

The last seven games at the G and you blab on about "self awareness". Astounds me everytime I read such churlish nonsense. ".. with over 1/2 the teams in the comp?" And the rest of us pay for that indulgence. You can't afford that many teams in Vic - when will you money soaking clowns...

Agree and he's way better than that flog Sniper Lloyd

"So West Coast are like the Chinese Government." Well yes ... they are very similar actually! China has a massive trading surplus as does the WCE! Loan to Freo approved on 11% basic rate + an additional 4 point risk loading + an additional 8 point constant underperformance loading = total...

In whatever direction that you prefer to spin the semantics of the word / term 'mansplaining' (such that it can be sensibly referenced as such is comically nonsensical). I find it is often used by the more dimwitted. Mostly, those who seem to struggle stringing a coherent argument together in...

Thanks :) Even if they came up with some sort of a plan I would look at the options. 1. 15 - 20% discount for the next 3 to 5 years. 2. Funds applied to 2021 3. Club goes halves with the members for 2020 4. Set a basic membership for 2020 (e.g. $150 per seat) and refund the rest. Definitely...

I'm happy to support the club as well - love being a WCE member - but our family have 6 seats in Club 87 and it costs ~$9,000 which equates to ~$800 per game. Including this weekend - we will have missed 3 home games = $2,400. We absolutely love going to the footy and it's our major...

Fair enough - it's not something I want to debate anyway. What's your view on the membership money being refunded?

Well ... irrespective of seeking to debate the argument style (strawman - I think not) would you not think that advocating that someone lose access to their children is a draconian (you could look up Draco if you want to continue being a learned scholar) measure? I would always want parents and...

Interesting position you have with respect to someone suffering as terrible illness. Your response - "So Mr Cousins you've lost everything ... well almost ... now will take your children from you. Not because there's any legal foundation for doing so but we are operating under some false moral...

Fair enough - in my rant about corporates - I forgot about the MCC members - doh! I tell you what though - every year when the GF comes round I always think of the mums and dads who miss out on the opportunity to take their family to the GF. I went with our family in 2018 and we loved it - a...