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Given our default game plan of late is to avoid targets in the forward 50 but instead bomb it in, 4 talls may not be enough

Agreed, let's get the umpires to do it

What he is that #12 to #18 selected that every team would love to have. Need a winger? endurance forever and a great mark/kick Need a 2nd ruck? Will more than hold his own Getting beaten down back? Send Tommo to win the 1 on 1s and create the rebounds Dude is the Swiss Army knife of the AFL and...

How come everyone hasn't just moved the Cogs thread?

Can't help wondering if the media micrscope on Shiel has help kicked this along, if so he won't be the last. The boys seem to love being able to live a "normal" life here in Sydney

It's a tapatalk app thing

It shouldn't be, we have the cap space now to retain both, we can't match the payment for "go home" factor if it becomes an issue. No indication so far that we should be worried

#commuterlife

Zero nerves on this guy

I have it on sketchy authority that Toby bleeds orange, we should be fine

Sport thrives on optimism

Troll feeding season?

Not sure how he could have lost real value (as opposed to percieved trade value). Played 13 games in his second year with a top 4 club. A number picked before him need to have a long hard look at themselves if that's a poor outcome. If Carlton get him for 40 they stole him, and the backlash here...

our 12th best mid is greater than or equal to your fifth, think again

Well if that's your takeaway from my post you have my sympathies, it must feel at least a little bit silly to have missed the point by so much

WHE was highly rated within the club, his desire to be "guaranteed" best 22 aligned with our need to free up list spots due to the AFL deciding to fold ahead of schedule under VFL pressure on our list size concessions. He was always worth more than he was traded for, and in time will be a...

Nothing to worry about then.

Yep, can totally understand why a proud young aboriginal man would want to play for Eddie given his record and Collingwood's recent dirty laundry..... :rolleyes:

Likely to be a gun, a bit pissed we haven't offered him a contract He will be gutted to hear your opinion for sure.. Other than Marchbank will easily become the best player we have traded to Carlton.

what you call sooking, we call laughing our **** off

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If Geelong trade in Ablett in preference to Smith then their list management is a lot dumber than I thought, at least Stringer is young whilst flawed, Ablett is old and fragile in comparison. It does appear Smith is Vic bound at this stage, if so Geelong is as likely as anyone else, though...

MK is worth at worst a pick around 18, Devon considerably more, you might like to start at your 2nd rounder for next year but highly doubt it would end there. I think its unlikely that should they both go that they would be packaged, Smith to Geelong is as likely as Kennedy to Carlton. Bear in...

SPS > Rayner by a fair bit in my modestly informed opinion, a rare talent in a stronger draft year. Not sure GWS will be enthused to draft into the first round this year as a preference, more likely to be after picks for next year. Pretty sure if we had a Dusty to trade we'd want more than pick...

Matt Kennedy and Devon Smith to Carlton, not that it's incredibly likely, would be game changing, and less risky than an untried early pick.

Believe what the club has stated, oddly it reflects what every member posting here has stated, we aren't interested in 30 yo players any more.

Good coffee, brings you to your senses everytime