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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    Give us your rigorous analysis of picks 8 and 15 historically...
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    Poster(s) in this thread deem 5, 21 and 25 to be an equitable deal. To not facilitate a compassionate trade over a 9 pick upgrade in the second round is pretty low, nonetheless.
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    Has an individual player been traded for three picks inside 25 before? FMD. This Dale Beams guy must be the best player in the comp.
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    Kingy y u do dis. 5+25 is commensurate with deals for like players.
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    Is it though? In your view receiving the lethal injection is better than pick 5 given the history of previous players drafted at that spot. Surely pick 8 is far worse and 15 basically worthless?
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    GC wouldn't do that. Not that Prestia is worth as much as Beams (he isn't), but you just don't deal star young players who are quite happy at their club. Name the last time this happened. You can't knock back a very reasonable deal made by Brisbane and then counter with something GC wouldn't...
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    So you want, roughly, picks 5, 25 and Greenwood for Beams. Wow.
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    So all you're haggling about then is a 9 pick upgrade in the second round? Splitting hairs innit?
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    Beams. But if he wanted to leave the club for compassionate reasons as is the case here, I'd happily take a top 5 pick and 2nd rounder, thank him for his service and respect his desire to go home to his family . How do you determine if this unders btw? What are previous trades for similar...
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    Again, it is not pick 5 only, it is players available at that pick, within reason. Even limit it to picks 5-8 if you want. Do you think Collingwood would have only picked the same players picked at 5 since 2005, given the same pick each year? No, they would have been picking the player that they...
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    Mate (yman), that's all very fair but we're not talking about guys picked in the fifth round. The type of player who is picked at or around pick 5 in recent years can really improve your list (well, replace Beams). It's not a guarantee, sure, but it is just about as good as you can get. To...
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    You're suggesting that pick 5 isn't good enough as it is a bit of a lottery, you could do this for all draft picks including even pick 1. No draft pick guarantees you a better player than Beams, which is what you are demanding. You could've picked Aish with the same pick last year, Ollie...
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    You're probably spitting that Aish isn't included in the deal, picked at 7 last year. Pick is 5 is so bad.
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    Effectively what you're saying is that no deal containing draft picks for a proven player will ever be worthwhile. This is obviously very questionable.
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    Cherry picking the guys selected in those positions doesn't stand up to critical analysis. You should be looking at the best players picked in the 5-10 range over that period of time. Opportunity to pick up the 5th best talent in the country (and potentially better if someone slides or Coll...
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    Traded Dayne Beams and pick 67 traded for picks 5 and 25, and Jack Crisp

    5 and 25 is quite a reasonable deal for Beams.
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    Traded Patrick Ryder traded to Port for picks 17 and 37

    Or, we could hold onto Clurey who will be ready to play some good footy next year onwards. He's two years in, there is no need to set the reset button and develop someone else, we are not in draft pick accumulation mode. Besides, it matters little what player a board on BigFooty have identified...
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    Traded Patrick Ryder traded to Port for picks 17 and 37

    1st and 2nd or 1st and Butcher or Newton. I could live with either.
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    Rusling - any thoughts from the SH crew (or anyone else)

    Did you play for them CBA?
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    Best Kids. Worst Clubs.

    Well, it's pretty logicial isn't it? What's the alternative... giving the best kids to the best club?
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    Rusling - any thoughts from the SH crew (or anyone else)

    He did indeed attend Westminster.
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    Carr Trade DONE

    Considering we got Choppy for a 1st and 2nd and Cankles for a 2nd and 3rd, that seems about right. If we're going to on-trade them, we better do it right.
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    Mark Johnson to Port/Carr to Freo/Dunn,1st round to Dons!

    ...and that is exactly why we shouldn't be involving you.
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    Mark Johnson to Port/Carr to Freo/Dunn,1st round to Dons!

    The trade would be MJ, Nash and 11 to Port, Carr to Freo, Dunn and 19 (if you're lucky...) to Essendon. Still sucks donkey balls.
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    Greedy Crows!!!

    Probably not. By trading White we're definitely going to be on the bad side of the equation, as he just hasn't been given the opportunity to strut his stuff as yet, due to some strange selection anomalies. Had he played 22+ games this season, we'd be looking at a far higher value. As it happens...
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    A Phantom Draft (why not)

    Seconded. We don't need any more contenders for full back...
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    Lote Tuqiri

    Re: Re: Lote Tuqiri Yeah, up with Rob Lowe singing 'Good Ol Collingwood Forever', hey?
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    Why would teams hesitate in picking Bill Morrison

    If Morrison was a future legitimate CHF superhypermegastar like the Collingwood populous of this site would have us believe, he'd have gone #2. Simple. Had he gone to another team, he'd simply be another name to you guys.
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