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Why would they make yesterday's statement if it can be proven to be incorrect so easily? Who's advising them here? It immediately takes down their credibility...if it is true. The leaks are coming thick and fast now.

You really think so? White middle aged blokes are regularly shouted down for having an opinion and being white middle aged blokes. If you don't believe me, just read back a few pages.

That may be true, but it won't hurt to listen. Like I said in another post, if it turns out that the expectations are beyond what clubs think is reasonable, they'll probably find that in the future clubs just won't take a punt on remote indigenous players anymore. But they have to listen to...

Thanks for the honesty. But you don't need to be so defensive. If champion, premiership players have grudges about their treatment years after the fact, then you have to realise that there is something there. What is it going to hurt to listen?

I think it is because everybody is seeing this in a litigation framework. If the complainants are legit in just wanting to explain how the AFL could have done better to accommodate indigenous players, then why not? It might be the ego factor - people don't want to admit that they might have...

They need to shoot it out now, but realistically, I wonder if many AFL clubs will take a punt on remote indigenous "project" players anymore. I believe that the Hawks were, with best intentions, trying to make these guys understand what it takes to play footy in the big league. I also think...

It's powerful stuff. 100% the coaches need to listen. And probably the whole AFL.

Do you think this outcome will satisfy all parties?

If clarko was coercing a player to break up with his partner then that is a massive overstep in the employer/employee relationship. I think he could definitely go for that. "Best interests" or not. You just can't go there.

That's what I thought. They are setting up for the next step. Defamation. The mental pain and suffering that they are experiencing from the "false" allegations are being actively communicated in the media

Good comments and I am worried about your points 3/4. If the parties do not play along with the AFLs appeasement strategy, then certain individuals will be destroyed.

You think Gen Xers didn't have to work while studying?

Look to Gaelic football to reduce issues around player head injuries. They have restricted most contact, particularly in regards to tackling and touching players without the ball. Gaelic footy is still a fast flowing, highly skilled sport, much like our game.

And what is that process?

What is the script that you would have accepted?

From the above, I love Hodge's comments. He came to Clarkson's defense, but he clearly still thinks he's an arse. I think most people wanted him at North because he is an arse. He's not there to make friends. He's there to get results.

It's a good distinction

I'm not calling anyone liars in this case. But people can have a different perception according to a situation. I think that is what this will come down to. I really don't think that Clarkson would have asked any player to abort their baby. I can't imagine any scenario where this might be...

I'm not saying that at all. It happened. Aboriginal people are able to lie though.

why not?

Guaranteed?

Clarkson ordered abortions now? That kind of summary is exactly why he will have a defamation claim

Is that where you are at now? Clarkson is a psychopath? Does that mean he's not a racist?

I don't think this culturally safe review will be done in a month. The first step is to see if clarko/Fagan are fit to coach . The next part will be about implementing strategies across the AFL to understand and respect cultural diversity. That'll take years and will be subject to ongoing...

When they are accused of something? Or when they are charged with something?

Dadirri! Yolngu posted a clip before, but have a look at the full text https://www.miriamrosefoundation.org.au/dadirri/ Most "fixes" seem to be about forcing compliance to white Australian values/laws, but I reckon Australia at all levels needs to revisit it's relationship with First Nations...

Wow Yolngu, that's awesome. I've never met her, but I remember having a meeting about deep listening in my old job, and I find that her reflection is something I keep coming back to. It explains something to me that I'm still processing.

I don't know why you are so easily sucked into the "journalism" red herring.

I used to work for Catholic education and Miriam Rose is like a rock star in there. I really like her approach, cleverly communicates to both first nations and non first nations communities. I get uneasy about the jesus links, but she has her own way of combining it with her traditional...

But it can start the conversation. I doubt the journalist thought his story was going to be the beginning and end of the matter