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This is partly true, we definitely played harder than everyone else and don't have the best list on paper. But the umpire stuff is just salty loser talk.

Yep, it all went to script just like when we got gifted the win against west coast... oh wait. Tbh the salt makes it better. Fair play to lions fans, absolute class. But all the other muppets here, keep crying.

Don't know why people are picking us by these large margins. We don't know how to win by more than a few points.

Only chance Carlton has next week is... actually no chance because they aren't in it.

Why you so mad Plugz? Is it because you lost a gf and would have won if a ball bounced differently, or is it because you wake up nights in a cold sweat remembering Shaws rundown of Reiwoldt in the goal square? Or is because you had to endure years of shitty Ross Lyon football, and then he's left...

Carlton favourites now for the flag - the lid is off.

Perhaps. That was a classic Ross game though, it's defensive and makes hellish for the team wanting to play football, he just makes it hard to actually win himself. Facts are he hasn't ever managed to win the big one, but he's always nearly there.

Ross Lyon definitely tried to Ross Lyon the s**t out of this game.

The problem that Henry has is that's he's seen as a kind of man baby that had to go home so that could get tucked in at night with his favourite blanket.

Oli Henry has talent to be a very good third forward. I don't see him having the attributes for much else and that's the issue really - there's a limited ceiling really.

Yes, we should just have Melbourne games on the TV. Perhaps we can just put the season on hold during the ski season.

Can't read too much into that, cats are still the team to beat, but if they are in the position where they have a harder time with injuries then it will be harder for them. Also young crop are unproven and will need to come on as the old guys fade. As for us, we've recruited exactly what we...

Don't try using logic with foamers. Basically in the modern game good teams get more frees because they're, you know, better. All that s**t a few years back about Hawthorn getting too many frees was stupid - a whole gameplan based around precision kicking and of course the other team has to push...

Well done West Coast, gutsy effort. I also don't think the umps were that bad. The only thing that annoys me is Carlton supporters trying to comment on real football teams.

Eagles: Great team, crap song.

I don't think a team has been this bad for this long since since Fitzroy.

AFL needs to get rid of one of these clubs.

It's Joe Bugner vs Ali. We've basically kept it in the clinches so that it doesn't become a test of skill. Go Pies.