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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    So the only thing worthwhile in the saga is the pro Hird piece by Chip. ....and you consider others to be deluded. Must be very cosy in whatever alternate reality you exist in.
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    Plan A from the Essendon play book. No records. Well done
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    Correct. If the decision had been sound it would not have been overturned on appeal.
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    Thank you. You have proven your inability to understand simple concepts. I won't bother with your delusions any further.
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    You are very good at making stuff up. Pity you couldn't find a way to also understand. CAS were able, through the WADA appeal, to retry the case. At this point the AFL lost control of the case and verdict was handed down that CAS were comfortably satisfied that the Essendon 34 had taken illegal...
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    You again show your difficulty with comprehension. I said it was the ULTIMATE responsibility of Hird. That does not mean others do not also have responsibility.
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    I am so sorry. Your comprehension again fails. A finding of not guilty is not a finding of innocence. To find someone innocent is a definitive statement and requires proof. Our justice system does not actually do that and hence returns verdicts of guilty or not guilty. The case involving...
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    Hirdy is apparently in a dark place, but it is primarily because he and Essendon spent so much time, money and energy fighting the charges, rather than accept the errors and move on. You, however, are clearly in a dark place because you do not comprehend logical reasoning and are completely...
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    Isn't interesting that all the pro Hird campaigners trying to sheet the blame elsewhere, all seem to conveniently ignore, that if the players and Hird were indeed innocent, the simple process of keeping and maintaining proper records would have substantially proven that innocence. They also...
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    You need to understand the differences between not comfortably satisfied and innocent. To decide someone is innocent you need to have proof of innocence, not merely a minor doubt on their guilt.
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    Alan ignores many of the facts. The players were never found innocent not even by the AFL tribunal. The tribunal was not comfortably satisfied that any player violated clause 11.2 of the AFL anti-doping code. That is well removed from being found innocent. Alan also ignores the fact that...
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    You would need to ask the coach that question, but I would not fancy your chances of an honest answer. He regularly stated that they would be in a good place when it all came out and then proceeded to go to extraordinary lengths to prevent it coming out.
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    I have read a few posts and understand that you have comprehension issues. Hird was the coach and therefor in charge of everything designed to maximise the on field performance. He hired people with the intention of maximising the on field performance. Those hired clearly adopted a program...
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    So those writing anything favourable to Hird and Essendon are above reproach and anyone balancing that with a contrary view are somehow pariahs. Perhaps there needs to be an acceptance that the contrary view is at least as valid.
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    Amazing that you actually believe this. Hird as the coach was responsible for the people put in place and the program undertaken. His attempt to sheet blame to others does him no credit.
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    Of course if Essendon and/or Hird had actually retained the records that should have been kept, all this would have simply disappeared if they were indeed innocent. Keeping records that prove/indicate your behaviour is above board would seem a logical course of action. However ensuring records...
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    Perhaps if the Hird camp kept this to themselves and their professional advisers everybody would just let them find their own way of dealing with things.
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    Play Nice James Hird rushed to hospital - suspected overdose

    If James had any integrity, he would have accepted that he was responsible for what occurred, taken the fall and allowed his football club to move on. Instead he basically threw everyone else under the bus in his attempt to avoid responsibility and the entire football community has suffered...
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    Opinion on Players - can it change?

    Well they are apparently appealing on procedural grounds. If they were indeed innocent why would there not be an evidence basis to appeal.
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    Mark Robinson on SEN

    That would mean they were words he doesn't understand. Why are we interested in the leader of the James Hird Admiration Society?
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    Can you deal with a view from outside OUR game

    A very well written article
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