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Eh, I think if anything it reflects very well on the group that got there.

The VFL needs to accept that it is now just a de facto reserves competition, with a couple of standalone sides thrown in... and schedule like it. Play as many games as the AFL teams (after this round, they'll have played 2 to the AFL's 4) Play at roughly the same time or after the AFL team (so...

Sweet Caroline is a great hook surrounded by a s**t song.

Have to say you're more hardline than anything I ever saw on the Geelong boards in the last 4 GFs... However, I can understand your frustration. I do know somebody who's going who doesn't support either side, such a waste of a ticket. A quick note though, just because people aren't members...

You can manage sneaking in, I've done it twice. They have clamped down in recent years though.

Have to say, this is the one part of GF week that I absolutely hate - the scrounge for tickets and the divisions between haves/have-nots. Enough to make me feel sorry for Hawthorn supporters - who, due to membership size/proximity have absolutely no chance of getting in...

And Sandford Wheeler. Never forget Sandford Wheeler.

It's a measure of our desperation! Would you like to borrow Hawkins and Selwood for a week? They usually go quite well against Hawthorn.