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  1. Wellsy35

    Traded Jack Bowes [Traded to Geelong with #7 for F3]

    1) you don’t know what they did prior to advertising pick 7. Maybe GC/his manager shopped him around and found no willing suitors. Point is, you have zero evidence to say they opened with this, only that they were public about it reasonably early, which allowed Bowes to do his due diligence. 2)...
  2. Wellsy35

    Traded Geelong trade #38, #48, #55, F2, F4 to Brisbane for #25

    You’re looking at this from a very zero-sum perspective. Coaches probably think that way; I doubt list managers have the luxury, as their ability to get deals done is based on relationships and persuasion. If every list manager thought as you did, very few deals would get done cos any mutually...
  3. Wellsy35

    Traded Jack Bowes [Traded to Geelong with #7 for F3]

    Luckily for us we don’t have to rely on your opinion - their list manager has flat out said it’s to clear cap space for Rowell and Anderson and co next year, and attract free agents. By going with 5 + 25, they’re (potentially) increasing their ability to front end Rowell and Anderson’s...
  4. Wellsy35

    Traded Jack Bowes [Traded to Geelong with #7 for F3]

    To all those baffled about pick 7’s inclusion… You literally had a GC supporter point out the absolute bounty of 1st rounders the GC have had access to, and as a result how they aren’t as valuable to the club anymore. They also have historically had a hard time keeping players and have had to...
  5. Wellsy35

    Traded Mega deal - 4 clubs, 2 players, 14 picks (inc #1, #2, #3, #8, #12 and 5 future picks)

    Might want to have a crack at getting both Busslinger and Ginbey given Freo is likely out of the first round. Fast tracks the rebuild with local talent as opposed to taking a punt on a flight risk.
  6. Wellsy35

    Traded Jack Bowes [Traded to Geelong with #7 for F3]

    There’s no short-term pain really if the deal is spread out to fit our structure and we get our other targets.
  7. Wellsy35

    Traded Jack Bowes [Traded to Geelong with #7 for F3]

    If they get pick 5 for Rankine, maybe they don’t want pick 7. They’ve got enough star material to develop, they don’t need another two coming in who will demand top coin in a couple of years, GWS-style. They could be looking to downgrade to draft a quality role player who won’t need massive...
  8. Wellsy35

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    We don’t have the list spots to use 20 and 22 though, so both are of no use to us, and a future first doesn’t compensate us properly for a year without Kelly.
  9. Wellsy35

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Honestly, I haven't seen the whole "wE cAn'T sTrEnGtHeN tHe PrEmIeRz!" argument much at all on our board; most of the discussion has been about the requisite compensation and the "family" thing. It was suggested by some that winning the premiership partly ups the price, but I doubt Wells is...
  10. Wellsy35

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    It's down to what they see as cognitive dissonance - the initial narrative was "I need to get my family home", which was perfectly acceptable, and now it's "I will only go to WC because they are a successful club and Freo is a basketcase". People believe that is being disingenuous and...
  11. Wellsy35

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    As far as I can see, the top 10 stalemate - if WC are actually interested in matching it and Geelong are serious in suggesting that benchmark - will only be resolved on Wednesday once other dominoes start to fall. If the Shiel trade gets finalised and GWS sorts out other deals, pick 9 might come...
  12. Wellsy35

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    Apparently Geelong rejected pick 13 when it was in play from the Swans (and a much simpler trade), so don't see them accepting that scenario unless they really want him gone this year (yet all public statements say otherwise), and it's an 11th hour, nothing-better-is-coming-along situation. Not...
  13. Wellsy35

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    The most sensible, rational post I’ve seen thus far. Everyone getting way too worked up over this.
  14. Wellsy35

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    I should point out that comes third-hand from the Freo board btw. May very well be bullshit, but checks with why they didn’t draft him.
  15. Wellsy35

    Recommitted Tim Kelly [exploring trade options home to West Coast]

    According to 6PR Ross told him he didn’t have the talent to make it and his manager’s Twitter was pretty disparaging, so potentially is just the manager posturing to get his client’s (and probably his own) preference. We can’t know about the first part of your post though, cos he himself has...
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