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Spot on Coffield (8), Clark(7), Billings (3), McCartin (1) all disappointments- albeit there's been some injury issues. Nonetheless none reached expectations. Meanwhile our best players are mature aged recruits (Wilkie, Marshall), someone we traded a 2nd round pick for (Steele) and someone we...

Lots of LOLS at my post Most was facts so I can only assume people are laughing at this part. Bookmark this and let's see where things are at in 6 weeks, but it's a pretty reasonable expectation that you win home games against Freo and Gold Coast, if you can go on the road and almost beat GWS...

Fair so far... More like 60/40 30/70. But let's not split hairs. 3 weeks ago I would've said 85/15 or 90/10. Now, probably 60/40. You realise GC hasn't beaten St Kilda in Melbourne since Gary Ablett was dominating and Saints were trash? About 10 years ago. GC's all-time record at Marvel...

2-5 but I'm choosing optimism - Fixtures been very tough. Much Easier from here - 4 of 5 losses were quite close. Should've definitely beaten Essendon and could've easily stole some of the others - King, Crouch, Wood, Henry, Webster back soon. Howard played tonight. - Henry and Wilson are...

These sorts of future projections are interesting but it's worth remembering how unpredictable sports and life can be. Rewind a few years. Dylan Roberton and Jake Carlisle were two of our best players. Both got cut down with injuries in their primes- Roberton with a heart complaint and Carlisle...

Schneider, Kosi and Gram weren't really "guns" just solid players. Goddard certainly was. Gilbert and Dempster were at different times, not as consistently as the others. Gilbert had one great year but never continued on that trajectory, while Dempster improved over time but wasn't yet a...

Right on cue King fails fitness test for tomorrow night That's 14 games from 31 in 2023 and 2024 (ignoring the game where he played 20 seconds). And those 14 games were in 4 different groups, with various injuries and 1 suspension breaking them up.

They're both averaging a touch under 2 goals a game - Max 146 goals in 75 games, Ben 145 in 79. That's comparable to many of the great key forwards at a similar age. There are exceptions- like Jack Riewoldt and Buddy Franklin who won Colemans when they were younger. But looking at the top key...

Plenty of players are "confidence" players. It's probably a personality type more than anything. But having said that, it's totally normal for players to become more consistent as they age. Inconsistency is a hallmark of younger players, it's not just about personality. I don't think he's a...

I really wanna see Max King string some games together. In his 6th season and only managed 75 games. Last year- preseason injured, missed first 8 or 9. Played a few, injured again, played a few. Played 11 games including one where he got injured in the first 20 seconds. So 10 games out of 24...

His numbers haven't changed much, he's consistently been a clearance beast (5-6 per game), a ball magnet (27-30 disposals) his whole career. and a high placer in club B&F's. Won Adelaide's in 2019 and top 8 every other season where he's been mostly healthy (17,21,22,23) So one minute Crouch...

It's already happened.... Finished 8th in Adelaide's B&F in 2017. Had 29 disposals, 10 tackles, 5 inside 50s and 8 clearances in the prelim they won by 10 goals. 29 disposals and 7 clearances in the losing Grand Final. Then, and now, he'd get a game in basically any team. Edit: In fact...

He's finished top 6 in our BnF for 3 years straight. Years that we narrowly missed the 8 (21, 22) and played finals (23). He's a significant out. Unquestionably. He was our best midfielder last year. No one's having anything both ways we're just telling you Brad Crouch is a quality player...

Which is a big advantage.... yeah, that's a disadvantage.... just like Marvel tenants though. And interstate teams on Grand final day Which is both an advantage and a disadvantage. I'd say mostly an advantage. Certain players want to be in the big smoke and their minds won't be changed. But...

This is a professional competition with 18 clubs that is relatively equalised, and St Kilda have some inherent disadvantages. Eg. 1. playing at Marvel, 2. Being a small fish in the Melbourne pond, meaning not a first choice destination for moving players 3. Small club fixturing- Geelong...

Definitely a weird comment 3 years ago when Collingwood were languishing near the bottom of the ladder, who would've predicted Pendlebury would play in another premiership? Absolutely no one. Saints are currently "renovating" or "re-tooling" but not rebuilding. Their goal is to compete for a...

I think he was injured during the pre season, wasn't right to start the year then hurt his knee. Has consistently been a quality player for the last few years. Far too early to say he's "cooked".

That was fair until you got to Crouch. Good player. Clark has had many injuries in his career. May yet become a consistent contributor.

This thread is getting a bit ridiculous Plenty of AFL coaches have coached forever without getting close to a flag, unlike Lyon who went very close 3 times Ken Hinkley springs to mind. Former coaches Buckley (although he got very close in 2018), Leon Cameron....

The issue in a nutshell: St Kilda's list is unbalanced with it's age profile There are lots of good veterans Steele, Wilkie, Marshall, Membrey, Crouch, Ross, Sinclair, Hill - All aged 28+. Mostly 150+ game players (except Wilkie and Marshall who were mature age recruits). Plenty of best and...

Not necessarily- most of the teams who completely bottomed out 5-10 years ago are now competing for flags Eg Melbourne 13-14. Prelim 18, flag 21 Carlton 15-18. Prelim 23. Currently tracking for another flag tilt Bris 15-17. Finals 19-24. Many flag tilts, lost close GF 23. Saints bottomed out...

I don't think that's the narrative at all I suspect you'll find when King, Crouch, Wood, Henry, Clark etc are fit again, suddenly St Kilda will only be playing 4 or 5 youngsters instead of 7 or 8

Exactly. I think you missed my point... If we were "rebuilding" like Lavender kept claiming, we would indeed be playing kids instead of those guys. That was my point

I know you're trolling but try putting the hyperbole meter back to 8 out of 10 for more effect. 12 out of 10 a bit too far You do realise Steele is a 2 time All Australian and on track for a third appearance, Marshall made the AA40 last year, and Ross is a 2 time BnF :laughv1:

The plan is keep winning. I think Saints are a chance against Port. But lose and 2-5 looks pretty disastrous. But then.... Saints will start clear favourites in the following 3 games: Vs NM- Marvel Vs Haw- Launceston Vs Freo- Marvel Win those 3 and you're 5-5, probably one game outside the 8...

Hill's having a good year. He was best on ground vs GWS. But he'll need to play a lot more games like that to convince me he was worth 850-900k a year, a first round pick and Blake Acres.

Riley Bonner. Zaine Cordy. Those are top up players to help you get over the line. They're not guys you'd choose to take games off kids if you were genuinely "rebuilding". Go read my response to your last post too. You're off the mark about St Kilda's strategy.

Not really. As I said earlier.... And extra points for anyone who calculates back-to-back short breaks, with and without travel (Saints just had 6 and 5 with travel)

Not really. They got rid of players on excessive contracts who, according to the rumours had been interested in leaving St Kilda for years - Billings and Gresham. Plus Coffield. That's a smart play and similar to Collingwood 3 or 4 years ago. Regardless of whether you're rebuilding or not...

My thinking is it's a case of "law of diminishing returns". The first few days are crucial, but the importance peters off. So a team off a 7 day break vs a team with a 9 day break, in percentage terms is big but it's not much of a disadvantage. But a team with a 5 vs a 6 is smaller percentage...