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Fair, I think McDonald will be a gun but his last part of the year was average. Not drop off the earth but average. Didn't mean to sound so smart arse in my reply either so apologies on that one. If McDonald had kept that form up he would've been in, Dunn is a know what you're gonna get type...

Think you just proved his point there Trav. Sure you should be calling me uninformed? Sorry, if the All Australian team was decided in round 5 McDonald might have come close to AA honors. As for Dunn in 2014 I have no clue what league you were watching, if you said 'have come close to the AA...

Improvement isn't always wins, you might move down the ladder a few spots/not win as many games but start playing a betterbrand of football. Improvement in hindsight may have been the wrong word to use but I stand by my statement. Well that's your opinion. I'd say those three teams, possibly...

Yep, I've got no problem with most of those statements, but I personally don't think they'll begin their rise up the ladder next year. Their are players on your list that are going to be very talented but they as you said are not matured/experienced enough. But as you said, it's all guesswork. I...

If I'd been writing more than a line per team their would've been more info on that. No need to get arky, if you want my full reasoning on Melbourne here it is. Gradual improvement doesn't always mean climbing the ladder. I do think they'll improve but on talent I think there are other teams...

Port Adelaide - Going to be bold on Port, could be massively overhyped but I'm expecting a big return Hawthorn - Don't think they'll win a fourth, but they'll be right up there again :mad: Geelong - The talent is there now, can they stay injury free/put it together. Good draw helps, might be a...

I've been saying since mid 2013 that we were rebuilding aiming for a flag between 2016-2018, nothing I have seen since then has made me alter my thinking on this. All these touted recruits should make our starting 22 (Smith as n2 ruckman). I'm not sure if will be serious contenders next year but...

LeCras completely slipped my mind Very good call all round here fellas, knew I'd overlook a few.

"No where near" an overstatement from myself, but I think Sydney have got them on pure talent. Yeah wouldn't surprise me, seems a bit ridiculous when so much can go wrong from this point on

Not putting in anyone to young who could make it based on potential , just those that are probable at least in my opinion. Know I'll forget a few and probably be too kind/too harsh on a few oppo clubs so bare with me Adelaide - Dangerfield Brisbane - Carlton - Collingwood - Swan, Pendlebury...

Hawthorn are a really interesting one for mine, they showed how good they are in the GF yet you'd say are nowhere near as good as Sydney on paper in my opinion. Comes back to a champion team beats a team of champions.... Anyway, I think Hawthorn will finish 2nd/3rd next year. Be in contention...

I have maximum respect for Hawthorn and think they are a great side, but the 'best' comment wasn't ignorant or flippent just phrased poorly so my fault on that one. It was honestly not meant with any disrespect, just an opinion from those great years of ours in 07-08 (until you guys ruined...

Weren't near it in 2010 and weren't at Geelong or Collingwoods level in 2011. Not really a 6 year stretch. I compare the Hawks in 2008 to the baby bombers in pinching one before they should, while it's obviously a huge feat I question if it should be counted in Hawthorn's 'era', especially...

Friday - Collingwood V Hawthorn Saturday 1:45 - Geelong V Brisbane Saturday 2:10 - Gold Coast V West Coast Saturday 4:40 - Fremantle V Port Adelaide Saturday 7:40 - North Melbourne V Melbourne Saturday 7:40 - Sydney V Richmond Sunday 1:10 - Western Bulldogs V GWS Sunday 3:20 - Adelaide V St...

Didn't put that particularly well. There was a phase there for a few years were the umpires were red hot on players caught behind trying to impact the contest if there was even an extremely minor infringement. Appears to have calmed down over the past year or two

Lonergan always grabbing buddy? Please, shut him down during the time when shutting down on a player bigger/stronger than you was near impossible. As for Lake if he produced his 2010 form for his entire career he might get a mention, but is not worthy of discussion in the 'great full backs'...

Enright Lonergan Rivers Mackie Taylor Kelly

5 most annoying 1. Bruce Mcavaney 2. BT 3. Caroline Wilson 4. Hutchy 5. Kevin Bartlett Honorable Mentions Tony Jones, Basil Zemphalas, Rex Hunt, Campbell Brown 5 most liked 1. Damian Barratt 2. Cameron Ling 3. Shane Crawford 4. James Brayshaw 5. Nathan Brown Honorable mentions Spud Frawley...

Don't think any will be sacked, but I'll take a punt. Brad Scott August 18th 1. Leigh Tudor 2. Scott Burns 3. Brett Ratten 4. Matthew Knights 5. Nigel Lappin

I won one a few years back in a Herald Sun competition, couldn't believe it they gave away about 10 for the day and I somehow texted through at the right moment. But back to the point at hand, most quality footys these days need kicking in. As the ball goes through general wear and tear...

This thread started off with a fair (but debatable) point that Joel has developed a trend in appealing to umpires and has turned into everything wrong with bigfooty. He averages less than 1 more free kick a game then the next best (Andrew Swallow). Considering the way he goes about his footy...