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Riewoldt. Just. Hawkins has been remarkably consistent, and he's become like a fine wine, maturing in style. But Riewoldt's best was probably better. How many people have won the Coleman easily, playing for a team who finished 15th? He has an extra 40 odd goals too.

Saints 2012 Lost some tight ones, including one late in the season against Collingwood at the G with some questionable umpiring. Lost 2 tight games in Adelaide. Probably were the 5th or 6th best team that year but found a way to miss finals.

It isn't close- that's why the poll result is 80% Nick with the other 20% being mostly Tigers fans And yes it was started in 2019 but as pointed out above, unless Jack goes to another level it's over. Currently Nick has the higher peak AND more longevity. A bunch more awards and accolades. That...

You think that's the only thing separating them? Nicks best was better. He won an LMT. (Not to mention captaining the All Australian team, 6 best and fairests, 5 AA guernseys and 7 AA squad nominations) Nick was a long-standing captain. Nick was more versatile. Has Jack ever played on the...

In his prime Nick could've absolutely done that. He could cover territory better than almost any other key position player going around. That's one reason he's the all time VFL/AFL leader in marks. Jack found a role within a system. He may have played an indispensable role but that means he...

St Kilda played Geelong in 2009 and Collingwood in 2010 and came within a minute or 2 of the flag both years. Geelong in 2009 had 17 players who made All Australian during their careers. St Kilda had a number of guns but Geelong had ridiculous talent. They and Collingwood were far better than...

2017 season Goals Josh Kennedy- 69 goals, 3.63 goals per game Jeremy Cameron- 45 goals, 2.37 per game Tex Walker- 54 goals, 2.35 per game Jack Riewoldt- 54 goals, 2.35 per game Tom Hawkins- 51 goals, 2.32 per game What makes you think none of those guys would've been capable of being the sole...

It's not close. Nick is top shelf. His best footy was better than Jack's, he was more versatile than Jack, and he was the 3rd longest serving captain in VFL/AFL history. Jack played in 3 premierships, but he's just one of many quality key forwards of his generation. Swap in Hawkins...

Contested marks- Nick is well ahead - 1.9 per game to 1.6 Also those "cheap marks" lead to Nick sending the ball inside 50- another area he's well ahead- 3.2 to 2.3

Nick's goal kicking accuracy was about the same as Jack's. Marginally worse. Nick kicked 41 goals in 17 finals, Jack has 30 in 15.

Nick's finals record over 17 games is stellar. His 3 GF's were below his usual level. But GF's aren't played in a vacuum. It takes 10 months of pre season and season, 22 Home and Away games and then lead up finals. The role he played at St Kilda cannot be overstated, as 220 games captained and...

"Stacked" goes both ways. Jack was number one option, Nick was sharing the forward line with GTrain, Kosi, Hamill, Milney etc. G-Train was first option yet Nick kicked 67 goals from CHF in 2004. But yes, fair enough- Jack's the better goalkicker overall, factoring in lower scoring games now...

Nick has easily the better overall finals record. Goals, marks, possessions etc as I listed above. Nick's best goalkicking year is the same as Jack's- Nick kicked 78 goals in 2009, Jack kicked 78 in 2010 and won the Coleman. Only difference was Fevola had moved to Brisbane in 2010 and was...

Well from an individual player perspective Nick has way more accolades...AA's, LMT etc. Eg bedrooms, bathrooms etc. So maybe Jack is a luxury townhouse, a small part of a big development in the best part of Brighton (eg part of a great dynasty team) :)

Jack Riewoldt played a role in three Richmond premierships. A huge achievement. But that doesn't make him better than his cousin, who played a far bigger role in a team who went very close on multiple occasions. Nick Riewoldt was St.Kilda's best player and captain for over a decade. If it...

Premierships are won by 22 players. Or you could say, 30+ players who play throughout the season. And by the coaching staff who guide them through. If Richmond had Tom Hawkins or Josh Kennedy instead, or Cameron or even Walker, you think they would've won any less flags? Jack Riewoldt was in...

Jack is lucky cos he plays for Richmond. If he'd been drafted one pick earlier by Melbourne at pick 12 in 2006 instead of pick 13, how many premiership teams would he have played in?

One of these guys is one of the greatest players of the AFL era. Captained 220 games. Won a Leigh Matthews Trophy. Had a ridiculous tank, outlasted any defender over 2.5 hours of footy. All time VFL/AFL leader in marks. Kicked over 700 goals. Equally comfortable directing traffic from up the...

Tbh I don't follow the draft that closely and yeah, Rozee Rankine Walsh Smith etc, seems a good draft I just look at the players St Kilda has drafted eg Mccartin 1, Billings 3, Clark 7, Coffield 8, even go back to Goddard 1, Ball 2. After 1 year on field, I see King as a better prospect than I...

I just cannot believe these guys were taken 4 and 6 in the draft. 200cm, athletic, agile, can mark, can kick, good heads on the shoulders. I havent seen much of Ben, but Max has a good play sense too and is versatile in his attributes. Players like these guys don't come around often!

I think both teams will be in the 5-8 bracket again. Saints desperately need another 1 or 2 players to do a Steele, eg make the step from good players to AA level. King our best long term prospect. Dogs need more out of their forward line, no use having great midfield if the forwards don't...