17 NRL players given SC notices
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The players were told in the beginning they have nothing to worry about and then months later cop a scn.
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Probably depends on what you mean by "gone".
I'm not sure a harsh sentence awaits. But to avoid it they may need to admit to guilt as the sharks did. That in itself comes with its own consequences one would think....
Your not following legal logic, whether you are guilty or innocent a standard legal procedure would be to deny any evidence to the oppostion, particuarly if they felt it was evidence obtained unfairly.
Perhaps the players should have disrespected ASADA's process like Cronulla did ?.
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Gone is a guilty finding and then a sanction, in whatever form that takes. The players might get leniency, but I bet the club will be waiting for the legal ramifications after that. Imagine what Monfries and Crameri will do to the club.
Soon as the notices hit.
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Ya IMO there is no wayyy they will get off scott free and that there there will be some price to pay (even if only reputationally)...
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Middleton has said that he doesn't want to make a ruling that denies ASADA obtaining that same evidence in the future. It seems he wants it tested, once the legality of the investigation is ruled on.
Then why haven't we heard about it? All we have heard is the court action to argue the process of the investigation. And as we all know that is not clearing your name.
But going to court is a way of clearing your name.
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LOL, this process is a way of avoiding the evidence being used. The evidence is a constant, it will prove innocence or guilt, that's not going to change. The access to that evidence is what Essendon is arguing, that is the variable here.
Yes going to court is a way to clear your name if done in a way to clear your name. However arguing process and wanting evidence suppressed on a technicality is not however.
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....or they could have said "No" as two of them did
Then why haven't Asada shown the evidence? if their evidence is so damming then put it on the ******* table so every one can see.
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Its not part of the process yet.
You want them to follow the process dont you?
You took them to court because you felt they weren't following the process, now you want them to not follow the process by first showing the evidence, then by your chairman trying to bring down the separation of powers covenant by getting the Minister to circumvent the process.
What is going on there at needleland? The hypocrisy is astounding!!!
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All in good time little grasshopper, all in good time
Yeah a fair process guilty until proven innocent is not a fair process.
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Oh, but it is...it really is
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That's not how it is. Your hysterical indignation isnt going to get you thru this process.
The players have only themselves to blame here for not taking control of what was going on. That was always their responsibility, that would have been drummed into them from day one. Someone comes at you with a needle, you ask for the vial and you go ring the ASADA 24 hr hotline, that is what that hotline is there for.
The players are at this stage innocent because the evidence hasn't been tested. but the fact that the evidence has been tested by retired Federal Court judge Downes, by the bloke who ran the case against lance Armstrong, and some other high falutin legal mind suggests they have your player on toast, ready to go.
Lets test the evidence I say.
The players were briefed on what the program was about they had the option not to be a part of it.
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Then more the fool them for believing Hirds and Reids proclamation according to McVague that everything is 'checked, double checked' because obviously it wasn't and that still doesn't diminish their responsibility to do their own checking.
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Speed cameras are only there to protect the community from injury and death. If they were just about revenue we wouldn't bother.....
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So the players should have take responsibility for what went in their body if prohibited. Also the people at the club who initiated and implemented the program should be done for setting up a program with prohibited substances.
A double whammy for the club
