No Oppo Supporters CAS hands down guilty verdict - Players appealing - Dank shot - no opposition - (cont in pt.2)

[yaco55]

Good article by Darren Lockyer questioning the suitability of the WADA code for team based sports, though Richard Ings still doesn't get it.

The Chip Article - Two things

1) I will be angry if its true ( no reason to doubt Chip ) that ASADA charged players on the basis of the evidence produced in the article.

2) Interesting that two players refused to be interviewed and it's gone through to the keeper. Maybe all players should have done the same.

 

[yaco55]

IMO, ASADA are driving the sanction still via the AFL because Middleton would not be impressed if they targeted players.

Gill: There is no new offer. I was talking to Ben this morning.
Ben: There is no active offer on the table for Essendon players
Gill: I did not offer any deal to Essendon we just talked about stuff

Gill proposes to Little the voluntary sanction subject to the court case (Roy masters come on down,maybe). Tell the club board.
Board rejects.

Ben acts surprised he did not know there wre negociations betweeen Essendon and the AFL on sanctions..

I agree with your summation though it would been more prudent to run this through the AFLPA. The AFL deal is an insurance policy if Essendon lose the Federal Court Case - The players may continue to fight the process for however long it takes, but at the same time take a provisional suspension and if the players lose, they have server most if not all of their suspension.

Of course the expectation is that if the Federal Court rules that the interview part was illegal, then ASADA will drop the case.

 

[yaco55]

Essendon didn't self-report - Will the HTB be convinced ?

 

[scottmclaren]

Does the HTB still think ASADA collected mountains of evidence post joint investigation?

Pff the evidence is weak, the AFL dictated their agenda to ASADA, Media flogs and public last year.

When do we get our finals wildcard??

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

So the 2 players that refused the interview didn't get SC's. Where is this mountain of evidence?

What a farce by these campaigning campaigners.

 

[Mercuri Rising]

So, update - how many of us are feeling confident enough to want Middleton to rule against us and shoot for complete exoneration? The closer we get, the greedier I get.

 

[Mercurial89]

Is this the first time we have heard of two players refusing to be inteviewed? I know we had two players refuse injections but id never heard about the inteviews until now.

 

[rumply]

Is this the first time we have heard of two players refusing to be inteviewed? I know we had two players refuse injections but id never heard about the inteviews until now.

Yeah same, I assume they would be retired/delisted players, maybe two of Prismall, Slatts, Reimers & Dyson?

 

[baz_machine]

Is this the first time we have heard of two players refusing to be inteviewed? I know we had two players refuse injections but id never heard about the inteviews until now.

Reimers fell asleep in his

 

[DonsRule]

Yeah same, I assume they would be retired/delisted players, maybe two of Prismall, Slatts, Reimers & Dyson?

Plus Hille?

 

[Whispering_Jack]

So, ASADA's evidence extends to... verbal statements by players who trusted the medical staff of their club and would have had only limited knowledge of what they were being given.

Wow. Such strength.

 

[baz_machine]

So, ASADA's evidence extends to... verbal statements by players who trusted the medical staff of their club and would have had only limited knowledge of what they were being given.

Wow. Such strength.

Only took them 19 months to get to that

 

[Whispering_Jack]

Seriously though, if the case is that weak that it collapses if the players' statements cannot be used - that's a ****ing joke. Why have we been put through this for 19 months?

 

[DonsRule]

Greg Baum @GregBaum · 12h
The Age and I have come to an arrangement whereby I will not be performing my usual duties for the next little while.

 

[Tassieboy]

www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/asada-case-against-essendon-bombers-at-risk-of-collapse/story-fnca0u4y-1227039302451?nk=6e3637b54e6d6605282bb6157a591594

So what I can gather from that:

• ASADA's case is that 34 players said they were 'injected'.
  
• Some players didn't explicitly say they received 'thymomodulin', instead they used the much broader description of 'thymosin', which could incorporate thymomodulin or TB4.
  
• This is ASADA's evidence players were admitted TB4.
• If evidence is quashed in court, the players' 'evidence' disappears.
  
• Since players would be under no obligation to speak second time around they could: not answer questions or explicitly say they took thymomodulin.
• Hence, ASADA's evidence would now seemingly be very little.

I suspected ASADA still hadn't compiled any significant evidence due to A) the lack of information on show clause notices; and B) McDevitt saying on Sunday he wants to find out what really happened at Essendon.

 

[Atavistic]

So what I can gather from that:

• ASADA's case is that 34 players said they were 'injected'.
  
• Some players didn't explicitly say they received 'thymomodulin', instead they used the much broader description of 'thymosin', which could incorporate thymomodulin or TB4.
  
• This is ASADA's evidence players were admitted TB4.
• If evidence is quashed in court, the players' 'evidence' disappears.
  
• Since players would be under no obligation to speak second time around they could: not answer questions or explicitly say they took thymomodulin.
• Hence, ASADA's evidence would now seemingly be very little.

You've just summed up exactly what the HTB idiots fail to gather.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Greg Baum @GregBaum · 12h
The Age and I have come to an arrangement whereby I will not be performing my usual duties for the next little while.

u wot m8?

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

 

[DonsRule]

u wot m8?

I'm curious is that is code for sacked?

Or just taking time away or what.

 

[Whispering_Jack]

Greg Baum @GregBaum · 12h
The Age and I have come to an arrangement whereby I will not be performing my usual duties for the next little while.

huh?

 

[baz_machine]

I'm curious is that is code for sacked?

Or just taking time away or what.

The Age is broke and can't pay him.

 

[efcboy]

I doubt that ASADA would use AFL's evidence - Surely they are not that incompetent.

You serious? They're even using interviews from The Age and the Switkowski report!

 

[84859300]

Greg Baum @GregBaum · 12h
The Age and I have come to an arrangement whereby I will not be performing my usual duties for the next little while.

So he's no longer going to be a reporter, but he's going to be communications specialist??

 

[MNC Bomber]

The Age is broke and can't pay him.

1. Not happy with the company he's keeping there?
2. Wont toe the company line re the crap they turn out every day?
3. Cannot stomach servicing Caro anymore?
4. Cannot make himself feel clean no matter how hard he scubs..?

 

[Whispering_Jack]

Emma Quayle's responses - "is it called annual leave?" and "and more importantly are you back for end of season 10 pin bowling".

Doesn't sound too serious.