East Timorese
Australia was in no mood for war back then. We had just gotten out of Vietnam which was another war we should not have been involved in.
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East Timorese
200,00 East Timorese died , whenever is Australia in the mood for war, never , so what stopped Gough at least doing the right thing in holding Indonesia to accountAustralia was in no mood for war back then. We had just gotten out of Vietnam which was another war we should not have been involved in.
Stop being a timid sook and just come out and say what you think about him.As someone pointed out already, thatchers thread was full of worse things than just questioning a legacy. Can I ask why this should be any different?
Strong on the social, cultural and infrastructure changes that were required; weaker on economics, hit badly by the oil shock.
Personally, I benefitted from free tertiary education the first time around.
Well it seems to have really hurt a few whose bloodlust for seeing people starve to death has been greatly diminished, want to ensure that tertiary education remain solely the domain of those who can afford it, or that people can not afford to go to the doctor.What Hypocracy? Both Abbott and Thatcher would have truly ****** over large portions of their nations (or tried to), the same can't be said for Whitlam, who did his policies hurt?
200,00 East Timorese died , whenever is Australia in the mood for war, never , so what stopped Gough at least doing the right thing in holding Indonesia to account
If you are going to point the finger at the ALP over east timor point it also at the LNP (if you know the history).East Timorese
So in hindsight it was this period in time and reforms that started the sense of entitlement(which every subsequent Government fed and grew) we now see in today's society?
Back when politicians actually stuck to their guns and values and stood for the people and what they believed in.
Stark contrast to the pricks now who try and bullshit their way around every situation like moral-less, gutless worms.
If you are going to point the finger at the ALP over east timor point it also at the LNP (if you know the history).
Really?
He was brilliant at spending other people's money. As let's be honest, that's all he did.
I wasn't a MOD on SRP back then, that's why, otherwise it would have been exactly the same. I can't speak for the actions of those that went before me, but if what you say is true then that's extremely disappointing.As someone pointed out already, thatchers thread was full of worse things than just questioning a legacy. Can I ask why this should be any different?
Save me from the bitching on hypotheticals.But say if Malcolm Fraser passed could you imagine the vitriol he would receive on the forum for being a Liberal prime minister ( even though most liberals cant stand him) I feel most posters have been very restrained in their criticism of gough.
I wasn't a MOD on SRP back then, that's why, otherwise it would have been exactly the same. I can't speak for the actions of those that went before me, but if what you say is true then that's extremely disappointing.
Thats all politicians, LNP/ALP Greens etc.
I wasn't a MOD on SRP back then, that's why, otherwise it would have been exactly the same. I can't speak for the actions of those that went before me, but if what you say is true then that's extremely disappointing.
I don't believe anyone, regardless of what side of politics they are, what race they are or what religion they believe in, should be slagged off at all in a tribute thread the very same day they pass away.Thank's for the response. Personally I have no issue with people saying what they really think when someone kicks the bucket. It's not like I know them or get offended when someone slags them off. It's more if one can be slagged off, all should be able to slagged off(or praised).
I don't believe anyone, regardless of what side of politics they are, what race they are or what religion they believe in, should be slagged off at all in a tribute thread the very same day they pass away.
People need to show a little respect.
Slagging off at someone when they die just shows the class of person they are. It has nothing to do with whether it was Thatcher or Whitlam.Personally I find this back and forth regarding Thatcher V Whitlam tedious in the extreme.
If you can't see why Thatcher was so utterly reviled and feel mystified why Gough isn't copping the same level of bile, I really feel sorry for you.
How many families did Gough destroy?
How many people necked themselves over Gough taking there jobs?
Etc etc etc.
No, I don't think so, you would probably be like me and say nothing but respect the thread and not post.I would love to say I can guarentee I would be big enough to live up to that.
But as I have said, if I was to wake up one morning and hear the rodent for example was dead....would genuinely struggle to hold back I suspect.