Yindindji, Australias newest state.

[little graham]

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...by-tribal-law-now-murrumu-is-hitting-the-road

Most Aussies are learning now that the jurisdiction known as the Commonwealth of Australia does not yet constitutionally recognise the Aboriginal tribes of the geographical land mass known as Australia. The failure to constitutionally recognise the Yidindji in the foundation legal document of the jurisdiction of the Commonwealth of Australia means that the Yidindji ... are not bound by any of the laws and statutes created by the authority of the Australian constitution.

In laymans terms, if you don't like Aboriginals thieving or welfare bludging, go home immigrant.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Your point being?

 

[WeetBixKid]

I need a car. Maybe I'll take his. Will his state be able to stop me? Reality > Symbolism

 

[little graham]

Your point being?

Who the illegal immigrants are!

This is the very reason we give courtesy notice to the Australian Federal Police and state police when our members are travelling. The Yidindji tribal people are not bound by any laws created subject to the Australian constitution – they are of superior jurisdiction and Australian citizens, including Australian police, must be very careful when encountering people of our jurisdiction. So the Yidindji police are there to protect the Yidindji people and to uphold the laws created by the sovereign Yidindji government

In laymans terms, the Australian government is not legal. Is here only by use of force.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...by-tribal-law-now-murrumu-is-hitting-the-road

 

[little graham]

Reality > Symbolism

Reality is that you're going to have to stack your courts full of corrupt judges to maintain the lie. That says everything about your culture.

 

[_007_]

What would have to occur for an Aboriginal state to be recognised (i.e a new country)? little graham

 

[little graham]

What would have to occur for an Aboriginal state to be recognised (i.e a new country)?

Nonetheless, before taking YID-001 for a spin on the Tuggeranong Parkway, Murrumu and his associates did inform the police that the car licensed to the Yidiindji government would be driving on local roads.

“The Tuggeranong (police) station accepted our public notices and paperwork.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...by-tribal-law-now-murrumu-is-hitting-the-road

Would be fair to surmise its going to take legislation from the federal parliament to unrecognize this state?

To be recognized by the UN


http://www.un.org/en/members/about.shtml

The recognition of a new State or Government is an act that only other States and Governments may grant or withhold. It generally implies readiness to assume diplomatic relations. The United Nations is neither a State nor a Government, and therefore does not possess any authority to recognize either a State or a Government. As an organization of independent States, it may admit a new State to its membership or accept the credentials of the representatives of a new Government

Witch thier doing.

During his most recent Canberra visit he opened a Yidindji Embassy in the southern suburb of Kambah with a view to establishing formal diplomatic relations with Australia and other nations.Soon there will be a Yidindji currency and passport. Murrumu and others who have reverted to Yidindji law already carry their own unique tribal identity documents and licences. There is also, Murrumu said, a Yidindji police force (the Yidindji Mayarra Nyalagi) that has “powers of arrest should people or citizens within the Yidindji territory invoke our jurisdiction, that being the Yidindji tribal jurisdiction or the sovereign Yidindji government jurisdiction”.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...by-tribal-law-now-murrumu-is-hitting-the-road

 

[KGBeast]

Nice fairy tale

 

[Admiral Byng]

In laymans terms, the Australian government is not legal. Is here only by use of force.

The use of force was an accepted and legitimate way of establishing states.

If they want to push the issue I say we roll in with the tanks.

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Who the illegal immigrants are!



In laymans terms, the Australian government is not legal. Is here only by use of force.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...by-tribal-law-now-murrumu-is-hitting-the-road

Literally every country on Earth exists due to use of force.

Nobody gives a s**t.

 

[little graham]

Nice fairy tale

So is the Australia day celebration.

 

[little graham]

Literally every country on Earth exists due to use of force.
.

Your logic is flawed and extremely ignorant.

The civilizations that existed prior to invasion 1788, did not. It was out of cooperation that they existed. If they didn't, things like bushfire and floods would of decimated them. Every neighboring civilization, knew the others food sources, water sources, shelters, roads,ceremonies, language ect, Where they would be at any given time.

There was no secrets, nor was their any gaols/police/armys/ psychiatry to force citizens to comply.

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Your logic is flawed and extremely ignorant.

The civilizations that existed prior to invasion 1788, did not. It was out of cooperation that they existed. If they didn't, things like bushfire and floods would of decimated them. Every neighboring civilization, knew the others food sources, water sources, shelters, roads,ceremonies, language ect, Where they would be at any given time.

There was no secrets, nor was their any gaols/police/armys/ psychiatry to force citizens to comply.

Ah the old "Aboriginals were completely non-violent and never fought amongst themselves even though there are depictions of them fighting on their rock paintings". For a "civilization" that was so peaceful they have certainly embraced violence with great enthusiasm.

 

[Fletched]

What would have to occur for an Aboriginal state to be recognised (i.e a new country)? little graham

To become a country you basically have to convince everyone that you're a country, its a bit strange

One weird example is Taiwan where you have American ships protecting China from China. Everyone accepts it is its own country except China

 

[Fletched]

Literally every country on Earth exists due to use of force.

Nobody gives a s**t.

I don't think Vatican City used force to be created

 

[little graham]

One weird example is Taiwan where you have American ships protecting China from China. Everyone accepts it is its own country except China

What about Palestine? everyone except Israel, America and her puppets recognize its a country, was a country before a Jewish state was forced into it for something Europeans and Americans did. But because americans have power to veto everything at the UN, its not regarded as a country.

 

[Fletched]

What about Palestine? everyone except Israel, America and her puppets recognize its a country, was a country before a Jewish state was forced into it for something Europeans and Americans did. But because americans have power to veto everything at the UN, its not regarded as a country.

Another example of a country which really should be a country. It seems so wrong now that Israel was created but I guess after WW2 who could say no to them. It makes you realize just how much of a mess there still was after the war... Hitler was just part of a greater fight

 

[little graham]

Another example of a country which really should be a country. I

I guess the Yindindji have a lot in common with Palestinians, annexxed.

 

[Fletched]

I guess the Yindindji have a lot in common with Palestinians, annexxed.

The dates of the annexation are different though and that is quite important. In the case of the Palestinians for some of them they were actually alive when Israel took over. In the case of the Yindindji it has been over 200 years since the British took over and so with the passing of such a great amount of time claims of ownership by the Yindindji seem to be more... invalid. The Jews argue that thousands of years ago they were in Israel and so are its rightful owners but since then the Arabs have controlled the land for many years so this can now be considered irrelevant.

 

[little graham]

The dates of the annexation are different though and that is quite important. In the case of the Palestinians for some of them they were actually alive when Israel took over. In the case of the Yindindji it has been over 200 years since the British took over and so with the passing of such a great amount of time claims of ownership by the Yindindji seem to be more... invalid. The Jews argue that thousands of years ago they were in Israel and so are its rightful owners but since then the Arabs have controlled the land for many years so this can now be considered irrelevant.

When did the Yindindji lose control of their lands? Did they ever sign a treaty/ surrender? Vietnam was controlled for thousands of years by forign armies. During the Vietnam war, not even the americans argued who was the sovereign owner, they just wanted to dictate the political system.

The british and all their immigrants are no different to the European African and Americans who make up the Jewish state. They have no claim whatsoever to the lands they forceably occupy.

 

[Lebbo73]

Who the illegal immigrants are!



In laymans terms, the Australian government is not legal. Is here only by use of force.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...by-tribal-law-now-murrumu-is-hitting-the-road

You keep forgetting that aboriginals are an invaded race. Whether we think that is right or wrong is a different topic altogether!

 

[Fletched]

When did the Yindindji lose control of their lands? Did they ever sign a treaty/ surrender? Vietnam was controlled for thousands of years by forign armies. During the Vietnam war, not even the americans argued who was the sovereign owner, they just wanted to dictate the political system.

The british and all their immigrants are no different to the European African and Americans who make up the Jewish state. They have no claim whatsoever to the lands they forceably occupy.

1788. Once it's hundreds of years outside you lifetime your claims start to lose their value

 

[little graham]

1788. Once it's hundreds of years outside you lifetime your claims start to lose their value

Is that the law of yindindji? Of the UN? or is that the law of the sick bastards who claimed terra nulliss? You're making things up as you go along. Don't even know the history. Wasn't until well into the 1920's did the colonies get near dominating the North of Queensland.

 

[Fletched]

Is that the law of yindindji? Of the UN? or is that the law of the sick bastards who claimed terra nulliss? You're making things up as you go along. Don't even know the history. Wasn't until well into the 1920's did the colonies get near dominating the North of Queensland.

By about 1900 there was a fair bit of colonization in Far north Queensland. You can't just say that because land was taken from your ancestors that you have a claim to it

 

[Connoisseur]

1788. Once it's hundreds of years outside you lifetime your claims start to lose their value

Iberia/Spain was under Islamic Rule for almost a millennium. I'm sure that its modern day inhabitants are glad that that mindset wasn't prevalent back in the 1400s to dissuade them from freeing themselves from the yoke of Islamic rule.