"Not allowed to wear long sleeves" at Hawthorn - Why?

[Fyfetheknife]

Who actually puts there hands on their hips or heads when there is knees to put your hands on?

Knees?
Sounds like quite an old person thing to do

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I'm just putting into context not fussed as to who made the rule.

If a player of that ilk said I'm wearing a long sleeve today, there's no chance anyone would do anything about it.

Well, yes there is, if it's a team/club rule.

That's what the implementation of team rules are all about. Get everyone on the same page. March as one.

 

[Damon_3388]

Who actually puts there hands on their hips or heads when there is knees to put your hands on?

Because standing more upright is most likely better for getting air into your lungs than standing doubled-over would be.

 

[QuietB]

Doggies longs leaves looks so much better with the hoops on them

 

[HFF]

Well, yes there is, if it's a team/club rule.

That's what the implementation of team rules are all about. Get everyone on the same page. March as one.

It sounds fantastic in theory, however it's not a "ban on alcohol" or anything of that magnitude to be adhered to.

I hardly doubt there would be any sanctions if a player broke this "team rule".

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

It's definitely gotta be an intimidation thing.

Makes me think of the NFL, where certain players/teams refuse to wear long sleeves during the winter when the big playoff games are being played as it gives them a psychological edge

One of the game-day rules for the Bears and Ravens — and I would imagine any mentally tough team — is that there are no long sleeves allowed under your jersey. That reinforces a mentally tough state of mind and it also is used as an intimidator to the opposing team, like a gorilla pounding on his chest in jungle saying “look at me I don’t need sleeves in the cold.”

Trust me players take note.

The offensive players didn’t have these pacts, and we would respect the guys that followed suit with the defence. We would often make fun of receivers, especially because they were the culprits that would usually wear sleeves in the cold. After that first touchdown catch we would give them a pass though.

 

[Docker Alyssa]

Why would you want to be warm?

Cause you are soft,

Michael Tuck was soft???

Hawks greatest games record holder. Captain. Bled Hawks for near 20 years.... In every match ive seen on TV he's wearing one

Breaking visual solidarity aside, I don't see how its soft.

 

[Bardo State]

It sounds fantastic in theory, however it's not a "ban on alcohol" or anything of that magnitude to be adhered to.

I hardly doubt there would be any sanctions if a player broke this "team rule".

I'd hope there would be. If a player is petty enough to not abide by very simple rules for the team then their professionalism and commitment should definitely come into question.

Also hard to have rules without some level of enforcement.

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

It's to do with a level of professionalism that is demanded by the coach and the team.

TEAM ethos.

Not just the coaches rules, but the players also.

Theres bound to be a bit of the "if you need long sleeves then you're not working hard enough" to it.

Remember when Motlop was dropped for having a beer? Same thing. Team rules. Professionalism. Leadership. How the team wants to be viewed and how it holds each other accountable.

Cool. Why do so many of them wear long sleeves at training then? What's the difference?

 

[Damon_3388]

It sounds fantastic in theory, however it's not a "ban on alcohol" or anything of that magnitude to be adhered to.

I hardly doubt there would be any sanctions if a player broke this "team rule".

It's also not something that would negatively affect performance and recover like alcohol use potentially could, either. Pretty different in the scheme of things, really.

This just seems like rules for the sake of rules, without a real purpose. I know people have bought up the tackling thing, but even that's been disputed. If a coach needs this miniscule stuff to have power over the players and garner respect, then they're running out of ideas IMO. Would be interesting to see how it would be viewed if a MOR or struggling club were known to have such a "rule" right now.

If you judge or underestimate a person on the sporting field by how they wear their uniform, or how they wear their hair, or the colour of their footwear, then you're the fool, not them. Has no influence whatsoever on their "hardness" or "seriousness" or work ethic.

 

[Cmarsh]

Coniglio likes to bust out the long sleaves

 

[Fire]

Because Clarko says so, and that's good enough for me.

Ah, the Essendon philosophy.

 

[Fire]

Wouldn't wearing long sleeves make you easier to tackle? That's the only reason I van think of.

 

[Docker Alyssa]

Figured it out. It's a Swisse thing...

The heart of a champion is sleeveless. Duh.

 

[JUBJUB]

Jimmy loves his long sleeved jumper

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Knees?
Sounds like quite an old person thing to do

I hold my shorts, so basically my knees, quite common

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Because standing more upright is most likely better for getting air into your lungs than standing doubled-over would be.

You've gotta use a combination - hands on head to get air in, then hands on shorts to rest, hands on head to get air in, hands on shorts to rest, etc.

 

[Furn2]

Sounds like a pretty insignificant thing in terms of not allowing a player to wear long sleeves.

What if Roughy or Mitchell or Lewis or Cyril said to Clarko they're wearing a long sleeve whether he likes it or not? Is Clarko going to drop them or shift them out? Hardly.

They wouldn't play, if they said I'm wearing long sleeves and that's that, they'd be sent home and the emergency would come in.

One soldier replaces another and all that.

 

[Fyfetheknife]

I hold my shorts, so basically my knees, quite common

Ah righto, I get ya. when I'm knacked I tend to bend over and grab the bottom of my shirt and pull it down

 

[caitsith01]

Something more to grab in a tackle?

I reckon you are onto something here.

Better to oil up the arms and make it very hard to pin them.

 

[ManOfClay]

About as relevant to this discussion as Michael Tuck and his sleeves. Unless you want to drag out some unrelated shit about atkins of course.

Did Shane Crawford wear sleeves at any time by any chance?

 

[Damon_3388]

They wouldn't play, if they said I'm wearing long sleeves and that's that, they'd be sent home and the emergency would come in.

One soldier replaces another and all that.

And as soon as they are asked why this particular rule is so important that they'd drop an important player when fit because of it, they'd look like fools. Covering it with some other spin (late injury) would look even stupider, if the real story came out.

Again, placing way too much importance on something that just does not matter.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Cool. Why do so many of them wear long sleeves at training then? What's the difference?

We train at Waverley. Not sure if you're old enough to have ever ventured there, but it's no surprise the players wear wet-suits.



Seriously though, a lot of the training is at a pretty low intensity, and the players kit up accordingly. Not sure there's too much to be gleaned from what they wear at training, apart from it also be a club/coach/fitness manager directive.

 

[Damon_3388]

Did Shane Crawford wear sleeves at any time by any chance?

Yes.

 

[ManOfClay]

Coniglio likes to bust out the long sleaves

Well, no flags for Coniglio then. Hawthorn don't wear sleeves and that's the be all and end all. Apparently.

Jimmy Bartel and Geelong didn't get the memo