Bluemour Melting Pot XXXII - Reaching fever pitch! 🔥 🔥 🔥

[DangerousD]

Good on him for staying and trying for a flag at Port but in the context of Carlton hiring it’s coach I think he could’ve experienced more over the past 8 years, particularly as a guy looking for a second chance.

Im worried about, why he’s missed on so many jobs, but him coaching an AFL side, is a positive and not a negative IMO, I’d see that as a lot better apprenticeship, than just being an assistant, madness for him to accept it in the first place.

Hes also been at Port for 7 seasons, not 8

 

[Mondyboy]

Personally I think a coach who has something to prove (Voss) is a better pick than one we have to beg for (Clarko).*

Personally, though, I’m team Kingsley, and have been from the beginning.


* To be clear, if Clarko was appointed I wouldn’t be upset. He’s one of the greatest coaches of all time. I question, though, whether his heart will be in it.


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[branedotorg]

Allegedly not a nice person from what I'm told.

Despite the sterling career, not the exemplar of preparation and if anything worse now.

 

[happydude]

Voss got knocked back by the Pies. How would you feel if Voss is the Blues next coach?

TBH at this point I don't mind who it is but I've already seen 2 articles referring to Kingsley as "Collingwood's second choice"

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Not a fan of Voss. Didn't particularly rate the midfield plan in the Prelim final. Thought it was tactically terrible.

If its not working isnt it on the head coach to change it? Seems like that was a Hinkley fail, not a Voss fail.

 

[Bostonian]

After watching that reality football TV show I would never want Voss anywhere near our coaching position.

 

[Beyond Blue]

I just find it very underwhelming.

All the way back in 2004 Clarkson was described as an underwhelming selection ahead of the likes of Rodney Eade and Terry Wallace.

 

[JuddgementDay]

Im worried about, why he’s missed on so many jobs, but him coaching an AFL side, is a positive and not a negative IMO, I’d see that as a lot better apprenticeship, than just being an assistant, madness for him to accept it in the first place.

Hes also been at Port for 7 seasons, not 8

I think with Voss’ coaching stint, it was at a time when club favourites had the chance to coach right away - without any apprenticeship

 

[Accidental genius]

Voss = no.

 

[Bostonian]

Id suggest a head coach role now after many years as an assistant would be the only way to know if your statement is correct.

Let some other club take that risk.

 

[AceAndy]

Personally I think a coach who has something to prove (Voss) is a better pick than one we have to beg for (Clarko).*

Personally, though, I’m team Kingsley, and have been from the beginning.


* To be clear, if Clarko was appointed I wouldn’t be upset. He’s one of the greatest coaches of all time. I question, though, whether his heart will be in it.


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Agree entirely with you re whether Clarkson is really that interested and it appears that he isnt from what has been reported from his manager.

I think our focus should be finding the next Clarkson rather than throwing money at the current one.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

If its not working isnt it on the head coach to change it? Seems like that was a Hinkley fail, not a Voss fail.

Success has many fathers, failure is an orphan

Regardless, Port didn't get there by chance and same goes for last year.

 

[Kings of Lygon]

Did Cook come out and state he was not going to be a CEO next season?

Was he asked?

 

[Blue Runnings]

Voss got knocked back by the Pies. How would you feel if Voss is the Blues next coach?

Voss has also been knocked back by us twice before …

 

[Gravyman]

If its not working isnt it on the head coach to change it? Seems like that was a Hinkley fail, not a Voss fail.

So what is Voss going to be responsible for then? Does Hinkley set up the forwards and backs every week too? If I was to hazard a guess there'd be Oppo analysis meeting into a meeting with assistant + coach directions meeting. They'd be equally at fault for the hopeless set-ups they did.
The assistants still play a large role

 

[BrisbaneCFC]

Voss has also been knocked back by us twice before …

Third time lucky then hey?

 

[Juddy's Playground]

I’d would be very surprised if we’re begging clarko to coach that’s ridiculous, I do believe we’ve approached him . The silence on the situation is deafening , second hand reports from Sam Edmund from clarkos manager don’t convince me otherwise .

 

[Beyond Blue]

Voss is 6th rate ... hopeless. Never him.

Why do you say that? Have you been coached by him?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Im worried about, why he’s missed on so many jobs

Carlton - Teague-train
North Melbourne - decided on the Fagan type and went for Noble.
Collingwood - did he even interview?

 

[Bostonian]

Why do you say that? Have you been coached by him?

Did you ever watch the show called The Recruit?

 

[Juddrockz]

Voss has also been knocked back by us twice before …

I know that aswell.

 

[WeninRome]

All the way back in 2004 Clarkson was described as an underwhelming selection ahead of the likes of Rodney Eade and Terry Wallace.

Voss was horrible at the Lions. Had been passed over many times since, including us.

I just don’t see this working out well for us.

 

[Arr0w]

Augmenting your point...our biggest hurdle is culture...and moving the mindset to losing not being an option as best expressed by tackle numbers and gut running. Voss has that in spades. The game plan and tactical nous you can buy to surround Voss. I am a firm believer we firstly need a coach who can hold the dressing room to account. Carlton select Voss, who was always my choice; I will understand why

While the Demons sit 1st for tackles, Dogs are 9th

GC, Saints 2nd and 3rd

There is no correlation between tackles and culture

 

[Night90Cat]

I think Cook is more of collaborator and communicator with vision, exactly what Carlton needs.

Spot on. You'll hear lots of talk about "people" and "values" from him + he's a numbers nerd always dropping stats (I've had the pleasure of interviewing him a few times). One more thing you'll notice about Cooky is that he openly states "I'm not gonna get everything right" but he moves guys on fairly quickly and efficiently if he feels he can improve the department, so in the long run he always backs himself in. Interesting how you've got him for 3 years though so I think he'll be the guy that sets the benchmarks, sets the culture, gets good people in who can support one another etc and then he hands it over to a mentee to kick on from there. Oh before i forget he'll put a great emphasis on the player leadership group which will help your young guns enormously.

ps: if my friend Jimmy is reading this I know he'll have a smile ear to ear "Yia sou Jimmako!"

 

[swuzzlebubble]

What chance today's articles were about the club testing the waters for supporter reaction?