Autopsy Dogs get the job done for Bonty's 200th

[AlwaysHawks15]

Sir in 18 months it’ll be late October 2024. I don’t think any result is possible then.

We won because we made adjustments at half time like good clubs do. Hawthorn were very good and have been for a few weeks now but there’s nothing wrong with being good in defeat.

TBH a fair a reasonable post. Enjoy the win and good luck next week.

 

[Oliver G]

As always…

Expected Score / Actual Score
WB: 81 / 94
HW: 62 / 65

Expected Margin / Actual Margin: +19 / +29

Centre Bounce Attendance (27 total)
24 - Bontempelli
23 - English
21 - Treloar
13 - Macrae
12 - Daniel
11 - B. Smith
4 - Lobb

Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage / Sharked)
80 - English (30 / 9 / 9)
16 - Lobb (6 / 1 / 1)
5 - Naughton (1 / 0 / 0)

Hitouts To Advantage
WB: 10
HW: 16

English v Reeves (64 contests)
Hitouts: 22 / 34
To Advantage: 6 / 12
Clearances: 19 / 29
Score: 4.1 (25) / 2.4 (16)

English v Ramsden (16 contests)
Hitouts: 8 / 6
To Advantage: 3 / 1
Clearances: 5 / 5
Score: 0.1 (1) / 1.0 (6)

Lobb v Reeves (10 contests)
Hitouts: 3 / 6
To Advantage: 0 / 1
Clearances: 6 / 2
Score: 1.1 (7) / 0.0 (0)

First Possessions
WB: 36

HW: 45

Clearances / Effective Clearances
WB: 36 / 26
HW: 38 / 22

Tackle Efficiency
WB: 61%
HW: 67%

Smothers
WB: 10

HW: 7

Forward Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 60%
HW: 49%

Defensive Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 75%
HW: 71%

Forward Half Contested Marks
WB: 3
HW: 4

Defensive Half Contested Marks
WB: 2
HW: 4

Score Launches
3 - Daniel, English
2 - Bontempelli, Johannisen, Keath, McNeil
1 - Dale, A. Jones, Macrae, Naughton, Richards, B. Smith, Treloar, Williams

Targets Inside 50

21 - No target/rushed
9 - Naughton
6 - Lobb
5 - Weightman
3 - English, A. Jones
2 - Bontempelli, Ugle-Hagen
1 - B. Smith

Inside 50 Retention
WB: 50%
HW: 60%

Shots At Goal
WB: 25 (56%)
HW: 21 (43%)

Scoring Profile (Western Bulldogs / Hawthorn)
Set Shot: 11.6 / 5.6
Snap: 1.1 / 2.2
On Run: 1.3 / 2.1
Mark Play On: 1.0 / 0.0
Ground Kick: 0.0 / 0.0

0M-15M: 2.0 / 1.0
15M-30M: 4.0 / 1.5
31M-40M: 3.3 / 2.2
41M-50M: 3.4. / 4.1
51M+: 2.3 / 1.1

Scores Directly From FK/50MP: 3.1 / 1.0
Scores In Time-On: 7.2 / 3.6
Scores Sourced From D50: 2.1 / 2.1

Score Assists
5 - Bontempelli
2 - Baker, Treloar
1 - Dale, English, A. Jones, Lobb, Naughton, Richards, Scott, B. Smith Weightman, Williams

Defensive 50 Marks
WB: 30
HW: 33

Defensive 50 Intercept Marks
WB: 5

HW: 3

Defensive Half Turnovers
WB: 19
HW: 24

Forward Half Turnovers
WB: 42

HW: 40

Unforced Turnovers
WB: 19
HW: 15

Unforced Turnovers By Player
4 - Dale
2 - English, Macrae, Richards
1 - Baker, Daniel, Johannisen, A. Jones, Keath, Lobb, O’Brien, Scott, Weightman

Dropped Marks (Uncontested Only)
WB: 4

HW: 3

Turnovers Punished By Goals
2 - Dale
1 - Keath, Macrae, Ugle-Hagen, Williams

Champion Data Ranking Points (Supercoach)
122 - Bontempelli
115 - Daniel
113 - Naughton
103 - B. Smith
102 - Johannisen
96 - Macrae
96 - Treloar
90 - O’Brien
90 - English
89 - Williams
81 - Ricards
80 - Dale
69 - Baker
66 - Keath
58 - Scott
54 - L. Jones
54 - Duryea
51 - McNeil
50 - Ugle-Hagen
42 - A. Jones
22 - Weightman
0 - McLean

AFL Player Rating Points
16.0 - Johannisen
15.0 - Treloar
15.0 - Naughton
14.7 - Bontempelli
13.5 - Macrae
13.1 - Lobb
12.1 - Ugle-Hagen
11.6 - Richards
11.4 - Dale
10.6 - B. Smith
8.7 - Baker
8.1 - O’Brien
7.8 - Keath
7.7 - Scott
6.8 - Williams
6.7 - Daniel
5.7 - English
4.8 - L. Jones
3.3 - A. Jones
2.3 - Duryea
2.1 - Weightman
0.7 - McNeil
0.0 - McLean

Time In Forward Half
Q1
WB: 50%
HW: 50%

Q2
WB: 45%
HW: 55%

Q3
WB: 50%
HW: 50%

Q4
WB: 61%
HW: 39%

Match
WB: 52%
HW: 48%

Pressure Gauge
Q1
WB: 177 (Below Average)
HW: 181 (Average)

Q2
WB: 173 (Below Average)
HW: 172 (Below Average)

Q3
WB: 184 (Average)
HW: 175 (Below Average)

Q4
WB: 158 (Poor)
HW: 156 (Poor)

Match
WB: 174 (Below Average)
HW: 171 (Below Average)

Pressure Points Per Player
72 - Macrae
58 - A. Jones
53 - Bontempelli
53 - Daniel
45 - B. Smith
45 - Treloar
37 - English
34 - Lobb
32 - McNeil
27 - Duryea
22 - Scott
21 - Williams
20 - O’Brien
19 - Weightman
17 - Ugle-Hagen
14 - Baker
14 - Naughton
12 - Dale
12 - Johannien
10 - Keath
8 - Richards
7 - L. Jones

Free Kick Summary


Score Sources

 

[dogwatch]

Here's a quick visual to show how it was a game of two halves.
It's just a table of the stats from the AFL website but luckily I was able to get a snap of it at HT.

To illustrate Hawthorn's early dominance I've highlighted in red where the differential was in their favour or in green if it was in our favour. (Turnovers work in reverse of course, you want the differential to be negative).

Clearly we turned it around on nearly every stat, either winning it or squaring it after HT.

Interestingly Hawthorn's heavy dominance in the first half meant that they still outnumbered us in many of the stats when added up across the whole game. This indicates to me that Hawthorn should have taken much more advantage on the scoreboard from that early dominance. Why they didn't is debatable - was it just inexperience? inaccurate kicking? the efforts of a few (like Liam Jones

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Liam Jones

Age

33

Ht

199cm

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98kg

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Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.4

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.0

4star

MG

134.5

2star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.1

3star

HB

1.4

1star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.4

2star

MG

116.3

2star

D

9.4

3star

K

7.4

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HB

2.0

2star

M

4.0

4star

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2.2

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) to stem the bleeding?

Anyway the fact that we were almost level with them on the scoreboard at half time meant we had a great platform if we could turn around some of those stats in the second half. Which we did.



I'm sure in due course Oliver Gigacz will present us with more incisive stats than these for the whole game but I thought it was worth noting the change that came about after half time (or maybe started just before HT).

For those who were there, was it the whole team lifting, or the efforts of a few who had been a bit down in the first half? Or maybe it was Hawthorn running out of puff and being unable to maintain their early intensity? You don't mind that so much if you're a Hawks fan because you can see they have much of the necessary talent. They just need to get better with age and experience.

 

[dogwatch]

As always…

Expected Score / Actual Score
WB: 81 / 94
HW: 62 / 65

Expected Margin / Actual Margin: +19 / +29

Centre Bounce Attendance (27 total)
24 - Bontempelli
23 - English
21 - Treloar
13 - Macrae
12 - Daniel
11 - B. Smith
4 - Lobb

Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage / Sharked)
80 - English (30 / 9 / 9)
16 - Lobb (6 / 1 / 1)
5 - Naughton (1 / 0 / 0)

Hitouts To Advantage
WB: 10
HW: 16

English v Reeves (64 contests)
Hitouts: 22 / 34
To Advantage: 6 / 12
Clearances: 19 / 29
Score: 4.1 (25) / 2.4 (16)

English v Ramsden (16 contests)
Hitouts: 8 / 6
To Advantage: 3 / 1
Clearances: 5 / 5
Score: 0.1 (1) / 1.0 (6)

Lobb v Reeves (10 contests)
Hitouts: 3 / 6
To Advantage: 0 / 1
Clearances: 6 / 2
Score: 1.1 (7) / 0.0 (0)

First Possessions
WB: 36

HW: 45

Clearances / Effective Clearances
WB: 36 / 26
HW: 38 / 22

Tackle Efficiency
WB: 61%
HW: 67%

Smothers
WB: 10

HW: 7

Forward Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 60%
HW: 49%

Defensive Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 75%
HW: 71%

Forward Half Contested Marks
WB: 3
HW: 4

Defensive Half Contested Marks
WB: 2
HW: 4

Score Launches
3 - Daniel, English
2 - Bontempelli, Johannisen, Keath, McNeil
1 - Dale, A. Jones, Macrae, Naughton, Richards, B. Smith, Treloar, Williams

Targets Inside 50

21 - No target/rushed
9 - Naughton
6 - Lobb
5 - Weightman
3 - English, A. Jones
2 - Bontempelli, Ugle-Hagen
1 - B. Smith

Inside 50 Retention
WB: 50%
HW: 60%

Shots At Goal
WB: 25 (56%)
HW: 21 (43%)

Scoring Profile (Western Bulldogs / Hawthorn)
Set Shot: 11.6 / 5.6
Snap: 1.1 / 2.2
On Run: 1.3 / 2.1
Mark Play On: 1.0 / 0.0
Ground Kick: 0.0 / 0.0

0M-15M: 2.0 / 1.0
15M-30M: 4.0 / 1.5
31M-40M: 3.3 / 2.2
41M-50M: 3.4. / 4.1
51M+: 2.3 / 1.1

Scores Directly From FK/50MP: 3.1 / 1.0
Scores In Time-On: 7.2 / 3.6
Scores Sourced From D50: 2.1 / 2.1

Score Assists
5 - Bontempelli
2 - Baker, Treloar
1 - Dale, English, A. Jones, Lobb, Naughton, Richards, Scott, B. Smith Weightman, Williams

Defensive 50 Marks
WB: 30
HW: 33

Defensive 50 Intercept Marks
WB: 5

HW: 3

Defensive Half Turnovers
WB: 19
HW: 24

Forward Half Turnovers
WB: 42

HW: 40

Unforced Turnovers
WB: 19
HW: 15

Unforced Turnovers By Player
4 - Dale
2 - English, Macrae, Richards
1 - Baker, Daniel, Johannisen, A. Jones, Keath, Lobb, O’Brien, Scott, Weightman

Dropped Marks (Uncontested Only)
WB: 4

HW: 3

Turnovers/Frees/50M Penalties Punished By Goals
2 - Dale
1 - Keath, Macrae, Ugle-Hagen, Williams

Champion Data Ranking Points (Supercoach)
122 - Bontempelli
115 - Daniel
113 - Naughton
103 - B. Smith
102 - Johannisen
96 - Macrae
96 - Treloar
90 - O’Brien
90 - English
89 - Williams
81 - Ricards
80 - Dale
69 - Baker
66 - Keath
58 - Scott
54 - L. Jones
54 - Duryea
51 - McNeil
50 - Ugle-Hagen
42 - A. Jones
22 - Weightman
0 - McLean

AFL Player Rating Points
16.0 - Johannisen
15.0 - Treloar
15.0 - Naughton
14.7 - Bontempelli
13.5 - Macrae
13.1 - Lobb
12.1 - Ugle-Hagen
11.6 - Richards
11.4 - Dale
10.6 - B. Smith
8.7 - Baker
8.1 - O’Brien
7.8 - Keath
7.7 - Scott
6.8 - Williams
6.7 - Daniel
5.7 - English
4.8 - L. Jones
3.3 - A. Jones
2.3 - Duryea
2.1 - Weightman
0.7 - McNeil
0.0 - McLean

Time In Forward Half
Q1
WB: 50%
HW: 50%

Q2
WB: 45%
HW: 55%

Q3
WB: 50%
HW: 50%

Q4
WB: 61%
HW: 39%

Match
WB: 52%
HW: 48%

Pressure Gauge
Q1
WB: 177 (Below Average)
HW: 181 (Average)

Q2
WB: 173 (Below Average)
HW: 172 (Below Average)

Q3
WB: 184 (Average)
HW: 175 (Below Average)

Q4
WB: 158 (Poor)
HW: 156 (Poor)

Match
WB: 174 (Below Average)
HW: 171 (Below Average)

Pressure Points Per Player
72 - Macrae
58 - A. Jones
53 - Bontempelli
53 - Daniel
45 - B. Smith
45 - Treloar
37 - English
34 - Lobb
32 - Lobb
27 - Duryea
22 - Scott
21 - Williams
20 - O’Brien
19 - Weightman
17 - Ugle-Hagen
14 - Baker
14 - Naughton
12 - Dale
12 - Johannien
10 - Keath
8 - Richards
7 - L. Jones

Free Kick Summary
View attachment 1673882

Score Sources
View attachment 1673884

Aha ... just beat me to it!

 

[geoffjennings79]

Newcombe goes alright I reckon, definitely no hack IMO. Mid- season draftee if I recall.
Hawks play pretty well and this was a good mature win by the dogs. Agree on Keath, wtf cliff has he fallen off?

What I actually posted was Newcombe is a hack when compared to Bont. How many CBs was his focus on Bont, because he can't - and never will - beat Bont without ******ing him as the ball is bounced. Yeah he got clearances early when they were up and about - ultimately his career won t amount to a hill of beans compared to our Viktor Lazlo in #4.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Newcombe is a jet (pretty sure that post was made in jest).

Hawks well coached, but are 3 good drafts away (don’t have the cattle). It’ll be much longer than 18 months….that list ain’t great.

We mostly played like arse & won by 5 goals. I wouldn’t get too excited.

It won't be 3-4 years. Otherwise there was no point getting players like Amon. Our nucleus is there in the midfield. Another 30-40 games with the current group they will be able to run out games better which was the main reason we fell away in the 2nd half and no structure besides Lewis forward of the ball. We need at least 1 key defender and a 2nd KPF to compliment Lewis. Could both be on the list already but haven't developed yet. Were already playing better than 3 weeks ago. Not really an out there prediction were not on a very long road back like has been suggested.

 

[geoffjennings79]

What I actually posted was Newcombe is a hack when compared to Bont. How many CBs was his focus on Bont, because he can't - and never will - beat Bont without ******ing him as the ball is bounced. Yeah he got clearances early when they were up and about - ultimately his career won t amount to a hill of beans compared to our Viktor Lazlo in #4.

I can't say "r-e-t-a-r-d-ing" him, as in holding him back, on here?!
Holy sh1t there's some bizarre censorship.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

What I actually posted was Newcombe is a hack when compared to Bont. How many CBs was his focus on Bont, because he can't - and never will - beat Bont without ******ing him as the ball is bounced. Yeah he got clearances early when they were up and about - ultimately his career won t amount to a hill of beans compared to our Viktor Lazlo in #4.

So he is a hack than. Didn't really clarify anything . Career won't amount to anything How do you know that? He's played what 30 matches?. For a guy who didn't go down the traditional path to get drafted I'd say he's trajectory could be anything. He was tagged today was he not? He wasn't tagging Bont that was Nash doing that. I'd say Bevo rates his ability as a player already if he's getting tagged.

 

[SSSSSS]

Too good at the end of the day.

Can't believe how quick it's been for Bont to get to 200. Makes me feel old.

Thought Nash did a great job to keep him honest as he's usually torched us in the past but Bont gets the last laugh with the four points.

Enjoy the win fellas and best of luck for the season.

 

[geoffjennings79]

So he is a hack than. Didn't really clarify anything . Career won't amount to anything How do you know that? He's played what 30 matches?. For a guy who didn't go down the traditional path to get drafted I'd say he's trajectory could be anything. He was tagged today was he not? He wasn't tagging Bont that was Nash doing that. I'd say Bevo rates his ability as a player already if he's getting tagged.

Last quarter Newcombe was standing side on to the bounce, facing Bontempelli, who funnily enough was facing the umpire holding the ball aloft. There where other CBs in the first half where various Hawks pulled Bont's jumper as he moved forward to the ruckmen jumping.
Worked a treat - except for the result.

Good luck in 18 months - Octoberfest, is it? Or spring carnival perhaps. You'll be champing at the bit after a quiet September.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Last quarter Newcombe was standing side on to the bounce, facing Bontempelli, who funnily enough was facing the umpire holding the ball aloft. There where other CBs in the first half where various Hawks pulled Bont's jumper as he moved forward to the ruckmen jumping.
Worked a treat - except for the result.

Good luck in 18 months - Octoberfest, is it? Or spring carnival perhaps. You'll be champing at the bit after a quiet September.

Nice deflection. Good luck next week.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Nice deflection. Good luck next week.

I Thought you were leaving our board

 

[Oliver G]

Here's a quick visual to show how it was a game of two halves.
It's just a table of the stats from the AFL website but luckily I was able to get a snap of it at HT.

To illustrate Hawthorn's early dominance I've highlighted in red where the differential was in their favour or in green if it was in our favour. (Turnovers work in reverse of course, you want the differential to be negative).

Clearly we turned it around on nearly every stat, either winning it or squaring it after HT.

Interestingly Hawthorn's heavy dominance in the first half meant that they still outnumbered us in many of the stats when added up across the whole game. This indicates to me that Hawthorn should have taken much more advantage on the scoreboard from that early dominance. Why they didn't is debatable - was it just inexperience? inaccurate kicking? the efforts of a few (like Liam Jones) to stem the bleeding?

Anyway the fact that we were almost level with them on the scoreboard at half time meant we had a great platform if we could turn around some of those stats in the second half. Which we did.

View attachment 1673896

I'm sure in due course Oliver Gigacz will present us with more incisive stats than these for the whole game but I thought it was worth noting the change that came about after half time (or maybe started just before HT).

For those who were there, was it the whole team lifting, or the efforts of a few who had been a bit down in the first half? Or maybe it was Hawthorn running out of puff and being unable to maintain their early intensity? You don't mind that so much if you're a Hawks fan because you can see they have much of the necessary talent. They just need to get better with age and experience.

Nicely done, just to add a bit more meat to that bone...

Disposal Retention (First Half / Second Half)
WB: 65% / 72%
HW: 72% / 61%

-7% to +11%

Inside 50 Retention (First Half / Second Half)
WB: 41% / 59%
HW: 61% / 56%

-20% to +3%

Tackle Efficiency (First Half / Second Half)
WB: 56% / 67%
HW: 67% / 67%

-9% to even

 

[TiAn_]

It won't be 3-4 years. Otherwise there was no point getting players like Amon. Our nucleus is there in the midfield. Another 30-40 games with the current group they will be able to run out games better which was the main reason we fell away in the 2nd half and no structure besides Lewis forward of the ball. We need at least 1 key defender and a 2nd KPF to compliment Lewis. Could both be on the list already but haven't developed yet. Were already playing better than 3 weeks ago. Not really an out there prediction were not on a very long road back like has been suggested.

Keep lighting those candles mate, they’ll guide you through these dark times.

 

[dogwatch]

As always…

Expected Score / Actual Score
WB: 81 / 94
HW: 62 / 65

Expected Margin / Actual Margin: +19 / +29

Centre Bounce Attendance (27 total)
24 - Bontempelli
23 - English
21 - Treloar
13 - Macrae
12 - Daniel
11 - B. Smith
4 - Lobb

Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage / Sharked)
80 - English (30 / 9 / 9)
16 - Lobb (6 / 1 / 1)
5 - Naughton (1 / 0 / 0)

Hitouts To Advantage
WB: 10
HW: 16

English v Reeves (64 contests)
Hitouts: 22 / 34
To Advantage: 6 / 12
Clearances: 19 / 29
Score: 4.1 (25) / 2.4 (16)

English v Ramsden (16 contests)
Hitouts: 8 / 6
To Advantage: 3 / 1
Clearances: 5 / 5
Score: 0.1 (1) / 1.0 (6)

Lobb v Reeves (10 contests)
Hitouts: 3 / 6
To Advantage: 0 / 1
Clearances: 6 / 2
Score: 1.1 (7) / 0.0 (0)

First Possessions
WB: 36

HW: 45

Clearances / Effective Clearances
WB: 36 / 26
HW: 38 / 22

Tackle Efficiency
WB: 61%
HW: 67%

Smothers
WB: 10

HW: 7

Forward Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 60%
HW: 49%

Defensive Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 75%
HW: 71%

Forward Half Contested Marks
WB: 3
HW: 4

Defensive Half Contested Marks
WB: 2
HW: 4

Score Launches
3 - Daniel, English
2 - Bontempelli, Johannisen, Keath, McNeil
1 - Dale, A. Jones, Macrae, Naughton, Richards, B. Smith, Treloar, Williams

Targets Inside 50

21 - No target/rushed
9 - Naughton
6 - Lobb
5 - Weightman
3 - English, A. Jones
2 - Bontempelli, Ugle-Hagen
1 - B. Smith

Inside 50 Retention
WB: 50%
HW: 60%

Shots At Goal
WB: 25 (56%)
HW: 21 (43%)

Scoring Profile (Western Bulldogs / Hawthorn)
Set Shot: 11.6 / 5.6
Snap: 1.1 / 2.2
On Run: 1.3 / 2.1
Mark Play On: 1.0 / 0.0
Ground Kick: 0.0 / 0.0

0M-15M: 2.0 / 1.0
15M-30M: 4.0 / 1.5
31M-40M: 3.3 / 2.2
41M-50M: 3.4. / 4.1
51M+: 2.3 / 1.1

Scores Directly From FK/50MP: 3.1 / 1.0
Scores In Time-On: 7.2 / 3.6
Scores Sourced From D50: 2.1 / 2.1

Score Assists
5 - Bontempelli
2 - Baker, Treloar
1 - Dale, English, A. Jones, Lobb, Naughton, Richards, Scott, B. Smith Weightman, Williams

Defensive 50 Marks
WB: 30
HW: 33

Defensive 50 Intercept Marks
WB: 5

HW: 3

Defensive Half Turnovers
WB: 19
HW: 24

Forward Half Turnovers
WB: 42

HW: 40

Unforced Turnovers
WB: 19
HW: 15

Unforced Turnovers By Player
4 - Dale
2 - English, Macrae, Richards
1 - Baker, Daniel, Johannisen, A. Jones, Keath, Lobb, O’Brien, Scott, Weightman

Dropped Marks (Uncontested Only)
WB: 4

HW: 3

Turnovers/Frees/50M Penalties Punished By Goals
2 - Dale
1 - Keath, Macrae, Ugle-Hagen, Williams

Champion Data Ranking Points (Supercoach)
122 - Bontempelli
115 - Daniel
113 - Naughton
103 - B. Smith
102 - Johannisen
96 - Macrae
96 - Treloar
90 - O’Brien
90 - English
89 - Williams
81 - Ricards
80 - Dale
69 - Baker
66 - Keath
58 - Scott
54 - L. Jones
54 - Duryea
51 - McNeil
50 - Ugle-Hagen
42 - A. Jones
22 - Weightman
0 - McLean

AFL Player Rating Points
16.0 - Johannisen
15.0 - Treloar
15.0 - Naughton
14.7 - Bontempelli
13.5 - Macrae
13.1 - Lobb
12.1 - Ugle-Hagen
11.6 - Richards
11.4 - Dale
10.6 - B. Smith
8.7 - Baker
8.1 - O’Brien
7.8 - Keath
7.7 - Scott
6.8 - Williams
6.7 - Daniel
5.7 - English
4.8 - L. Jones
3.3 - A. Jones
2.3 - Duryea
2.1 - Weightman
0.7 - McNeil
0.0 - McLean

Time In Forward Half
Q1
WB: 50%
HW: 50%

Q2
WB: 45%
HW: 55%

Q3
WB: 50%
HW: 50%

Q4
WB: 61%
HW: 39%

Match
WB: 52%
HW: 48%

Pressure Gauge
Q1
WB: 177 (Below Average)
HW: 181 (Average)

Q2
WB: 173 (Below Average)
HW: 172 (Below Average)

Q3
WB: 184 (Average)
HW: 175 (Below Average)

Q4
WB: 158 (Poor)
HW: 156 (Poor)

Match
WB: 174 (Below Average)
HW: 171 (Below Average)

Pressure Points Per Player
72 - Macrae
58 - A. Jones
53 - Bontempelli
53 - Daniel
45 - B. Smith
45 - Treloar
37 - English
34 - Lobb
32 - Lobb
27 - Duryea
22 - Scott
21 - Williams
20 - O’Brien
19 - Weightman
17 - Ugle-Hagen
14 - Baker
14 - Naughton
12 - Dale
12 - Johannien
10 - Keath
8 - Richards
7 - L. Jones

Free Kick Summary
View attachment 1673882

Score Sources
View attachment 1673884

Thanks as always, OG. A few observations from those stats:

1. At a quick glance they seem to back up my point that across the game we didn't really dominate them on the stats. Perhaps we were just more efficient in converting the weight of opportunities when we dominated (3-4Q) vs when Hawthorn dominated (first 1.5 Qtrs)

2. A lop sided FK count in our favour in the second half will get the usual tongues wagging. I won't comment on whether they were justified because I didn't see enough of the game. However I was looking for FKs for a "throw" after all the idle chatter among the craparazzi this week. It didn't seem to materialise with only one FK paid against each side for it. What will the media drag up this week I wonder?

3. There has been lots of talk here about English being an AA ruckman this year. There's no doubt he's having a great season but he never seems to win the HOs and seldom wins the HOTAs (although he's better in that area than general HOs). What we are seeing is a unique tall who can outreach opponents Dempsey-like to take plenty of marks around the ground but who plays more like a running midfielder than a classical ruckman. While we can all agree that his positives massively outweigh any weaknesses in his tap work, I feel that the AA selection panel might hold those tap deficiencies against him. Oh well, I guess it's just another one of those dodgy AFL awards voted on by celebrity hacks. If his efforts can help bring us a flag I'm sure he'd rather that than an AA gong any day.

4. Disturbing stats for i50 targets when you think about our 3-headed monster:

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21 - No target/rushed​

9 - Naughton​

6 - Lobb​

5 - Weightman​

3 - English, A. Jones​

2 - Bontempelli, Ugle-Hagen​

1 - B. Smith​

These stats seem to bear out the complaints that Marra gets ignored far too often. Is he leading so far up the ground that he can't present i50? I wouldn't have thought so. He seems to be making leads that aren't honoured a lot of the time. I confess I don't know anything about what Spangher actually brings but I'm in the camp that says we should be able to do a whole lot better in our forward entries and dynamics. From the outside that seems to be largely on him.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

I Thought you were leaving our board

You guys made comments I had to respond to. Was happy to walk away you guys should do the same. We are a trainwreck remember why bother taking the bait. Good luck the rest of the year.

 

[perro_loco]

I know it is easy to say that Loob is a spud. BUT, the guy kicks one or two goals a game and does a fair job in the ruck. also creates pressure in the forward line. what worries me is the forward line, but we did ok today. happy with the 4 points.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Yeah was ordinary. 10 clearances and 2 goals. If that's a hack Id love to see a gun young player. You guys won because we ran out of gas at HT and Lewis had no support. The result is flipped in 18 months time. Laugh all you want at our tribulations now. Don't get used to it though. We will be back. I'll leave your board on that note.

You have got the makings of a good team, and you will improve. Like all young teams you ran out of puff and composure towards the end, and being a mature team we grounded you down.

Appreciated the respect you showed the Bont at the end, forming the guard of honour, all class the Hawks.

 

[TMoney22]

For those who have suggested Richards to play some midfield. I'm now with you. His contested work has been excellent this year. Took on a big tackle in front of me which hit him hard and he didn't flinch. Really hope that is his next development. Would be great to try while Libba is out and JJ back in form.

 

[suetonius]

Hawks have been competitive the last few weeks.

It was a very honest performance from us.

I agree, the Hawks deserve far more respect. They came out determined to make a statement and beat us.

 

[Hobdog]

You guys made comments I had to respond to. Was happy to walk away you guys should do the same. We are a trainwreck remember why bother taking the bait. Good luck the rest of the year.

You actually didn’t need to come over here and shoot your mouth off in the first place. Not sure why you think you now need to spend your evening trying to convince another club’s supporters that you’ll be good again one day. None of us give a shit. And what’s more, you start on the historical sledges about financial support, but if you bothered to do your homework, you’d learn that our club is in pretty good shape these days and is very well run. Best thing you could do is jog on, get your crayons out, and start designing a new clash strip to replace that abomination your club ran out in today.


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[AlwaysHawks15]

You actually didn’t need to come over here and shoot your mouth off in the first place. Not sure why you think you now need to spend your evening trying to convince another club’s supporters that you’ll be good again one day. None of us give a s**t. And what’s more, you start on the historical sledges about financial support, but if you bothered to do your homework, you’d learn that our club is in pretty good shape these days and is very well run. Best thing you could do is jog on, get your crayons out, and start designing a new clash strip to replace that abomination your club ran out in today.


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Mate just enjoy your win. Didn't mean to trigger anyone. See you guys again next time around.

 

[geoffjennings79]

I enjoyed Status Quo blaring out to celebrate the win, after 2 renditions of the club song. While I've indoctrinated the young adults I appear to be responsible for into many bands from my youth, I'd overlooked the Quo.

Sadly followed up by Sweet Caroline - which while I find myself involuntarily humming to it, is also a song I detest. Not sure why - maybe because it has no place anywhere near a game of footy!

 

[suetonius]

Best thing you could do is jog on, get your crayons out, and start designing a new clash strip to replace that abomination your club ran out in today.


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I actually like the Hawthorn clash jumper. It is their heritage jumper and the original design that was worn from 1925 until they changed to the stripes in 1950.

Source:

Hawthorn Home Jumpers

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footyjumpers.com

 

[Lex22]

It won't be 3-4 years. Otherwise there was no point getting players like Amon. Our nucleus is there in the midfield. Another 30-40 games with the current group they will be able to run out games better which was the main reason we fell away in the 2nd half and no structure besides Lewis forward of the ball. We need at least 1 key defender and a 2nd KPF to compliment Lewis. Could both be on the list already but haven't developed yet. Were already playing better than 3 weeks ago. Not really an out there prediction were not on a very long road back like has been suggested.

Disagree, I think the Hawks are miles off with that list. That’s only one humble man’s opinion though.

Good luck.