if u feel CC has had his time at fremantle who else do u think shouyld coach fremantle next year ? my suggestion (might be bit radical ) but what about sumich part of a proven team has fremantle heritage and has already expressed a desire to coach an afl side, harvs is a logical replacement but is there anyone else u might consider right for the job ???
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If not CC then who???
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If it turns out we're looking for a coach I'd love to see us chase Voss. Maybe a concern that he hasn't had an apprentice role yet but I've heard reports that he was basically a conduit between Mathews and the players in his time at Brissy and that should hold him in good stead.
He'd certainly bring a tough, no nonsense, winners attitude to the club and there would be no talk of players not respecting him, that's for sure.
He'd certainly bring a tough, no nonsense, winners attitude to the club and there would be no talk of players not respecting him, that's for sure.
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I want someone who kicks butt and takes names.
Freo players should be petrified of not playing well or following the gameplan.
Respect, discipline and team orientation that coaches like L.Matthews, P.Roos, K.Sheedy, J.Worsfold, M.Malthouse, N.Craig etc.. demand and GET from their players.
At Freo, the only type of person that the players will listen to and respect in that way is a former player with balls.
Freo players should be petrified of not playing well or following the gameplan.
Respect, discipline and team orientation that coaches like L.Matthews, P.Roos, K.Sheedy, J.Worsfold, M.Malthouse, N.Craig etc.. demand and GET from their players.
At Freo, the only type of person that the players will listen to and respect in that way is a former player with balls.
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I would struggle to support a team Walls coached. I would need to take the club to couples counselling to get through some issues.
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Michael Voss - could be a very awesome coach.
Untested - but if he got a team playing to his philosphies and the way he played then you'd have to think they be very competitive.
This is the really big problem; if not CC then who?
I don't have a big opinion of Sumich or Harvey. They may be good,, but I have no reason to think they will be better than CC. Neither seems to have the intelligence of CC. I would prefer Harvey to Sumivich by a mile however. There are other untired assistants who would be in the same catefory as those two, and equally good and untried.
Superstars who have not even been assistants look very appealing, and as well as Voss, there will be some retirements this year. I don't like the idea. Tim Watson is the reason why. More to the point, someone like Voss would do himself a big favour by going down the assistan trail, unless the Brisbane job opened up for him.
In terms of tried coaches it is much more difficult. Walls? You have got to be kidding. I think the game has developed a fair bit, and the idea of going Back to The Future would not work.
In the near future Melbourne, Geelong, Essendon, Carlton and North Melbourne and others, could easily be looking for new coaches. This will make any potential coach highly sought after, and I wouldn't count on us getting the number 1 pick. Of the possible outgoing coaches, who do you want? I would assume that Pagan and Sheedy will not leave Melbourne. Connolly is as good or better than the other coaches from those clubs. A change may be a good thing, and I would be very surprised if CC was available that he would not be snapped up by one of those clubs, Melbourne in particular.
I don't have a big opinion of Sumich or Harvey. They may be good,, but I have no reason to think they will be better than CC. Neither seems to have the intelligence of CC. I would prefer Harvey to Sumivich by a mile however. There are other untired assistants who would be in the same catefory as those two, and equally good and untried.
Superstars who have not even been assistants look very appealing, and as well as Voss, there will be some retirements this year. I don't like the idea. Tim Watson is the reason why. More to the point, someone like Voss would do himself a big favour by going down the assistan trail, unless the Brisbane job opened up for him.
In terms of tried coaches it is much more difficult. Walls? You have got to be kidding. I think the game has developed a fair bit, and the idea of going Back to The Future would not work.
In the near future Melbourne, Geelong, Essendon, Carlton and North Melbourne and others, could easily be looking for new coaches. This will make any potential coach highly sought after, and I wouldn't count on us getting the number 1 pick. Of the possible outgoing coaches, who do you want? I would assume that Pagan and Sheedy will not leave Melbourne. Connolly is as good or better than the other coaches from those clubs. A change may be a good thing, and I would be very surprised if CC was available that he would not be snapped up by one of those clubs, Melbourne in particular.
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I'd think Voss would be a great solution atm as he is a well respected footballer and leader which would get a lot of respect from most players and is a great.
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Walls was useless as a coach since he left Carlton in the 1980s. I have a feeling that his hard approach would not rub off well with the players.
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But wasn't it him that predicted we'd be top 4 at the end of last season
He did something about Freo that made him all high and mighty...
The best case senario for us is Harvey takes over in 08 and convinces his mate James Hird to experience life outside windy hill for a couple of years, and come over West to be an assistant to Harvey.
If that happens and with our squad in 08 we'll be premiers for sure
If that happens and with our squad in 08 we'll be premiers for sure
The best case senario for us is Harvey takes over in 08 and convinces his mate James Hird to experience life outside windy hill for a couple of years, and come over West to be an assistant to Harvey.
If that happens and with our squad in 08 we'll be premiers for sure
of course we will.
Don't be so negative Lach.
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Remember this time last year we were talking up Carey being the real deal just like we were talking up Voss on this thread. Do people still believe that Carey would be good ideally?
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I still think Carey would make a good coach, not ideal but better than some out there. He shares a lot of the same qualities as Voss ie a hard nosed winners mentality and a good understanding of the game.
I think Voss has the advantage over him in several areas though. I think the players would respect him more, not as a footballer but as a person. And I think he would find it easier to relate to the players - seems more of a people person than Carey. The whole Carey/Laidley thing is starting to show that Carey may be one who lets his ego interfere with his decision making.
To me Voss seems like he'd very much be a General style leader of men in the vein of Mathews or Worsfold. If we are looking for a coach though I fear the timing might be wrong. Like Gav said I doubt many smart coaches will try jumping in the deep end after seeing what happened to Watson. Maybe Voss should have spent the year as an assistant at Brissy instead of in the media. In fact I might pop over to the Brissy board and ask them a few questions.
Worsfold spent a year in the media before taking the job with Carlton. I personally think it helps. You can have a good look at the game from the outside which is beneficial after being the central part of the game for 20 years or so.
Blight, Eade and Mathews also looked better coaches after their first coaching gigs and then spending time in the media before re entering the coaching arena again.
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I cant beleive all these people want us to get Voss as a coach! He has no experience and everyone that knows him has said he would be no good as a head coach until he has done some assistant work. If we get Voss we are rebuilding and not going after the premiership that we should be going for.