Hird v West Coast, Rnd 3

The_Postinator · Sep 20, 2004

I'm sure you all agree

james hird not getting any votes in round 3 has to be one of the most blatantly ridiculous farces the game has unfortunately seen, seems players have to pay $20,000 for holding grudges but umps can do whatever the ******** they want

double standards

******** you afl you have turned this game into a joke

Total Package · Sep 20, 2004

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I prefer to think of it as justice actually. You couldnt expect the umpires to be favourable to him after he called them corrupt cheats.

silky-smooth · Sep 20, 2004

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Yeah... that is odd!

HIRD... Rd 3:
Disposals: 34
Marks: 7
Goals: 3
Inside 50s: 7
Clearances: 8
Centre Breaks: 4
BUT....
Clangers: 7

Nicked these stats from an old newspaper i had... hehehe

JUBJUB · Sep 20, 2004

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Total Package said:
I prefer to think of it as justice actually. You couldnt expect the umpires to be favourable to him after he called them corrupt cheats.

But votes are done straight after a game.He called McLaren a corrupt cheat about 5 days later.

BTW,Hird was right about Goofy.

Yze_Magic · Sep 20, 2004

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Total Package said:
I prefer to think of it as justice actually. You couldnt expect the umpires to be favourable to him after he called them corrupt cheats.

I agree

When he missed out on votes in round 3, I laughed almost as hard as when Matty Whelan ironed him out in the Elimination Final

The_Postinator · Sep 21, 2004

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even when he gets 34 possessions, 15 in the last quarter and single handidly wins the game?

lets through fairness out the window aswell as decency then

The_Postinator · Sep 21, 2004

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Yze_Magic said:
I agree

When he missed out on votes in round 3, I laughed almost as hard as when Matty Whelan ironed him out in the Elimination Final

wow u take pleasure in other people getting hurt

you truly are a wonderful human being tragic man

who won that elimination final by the way?

Homer · Sep 21, 2004

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I for one, figured it to be blatant. Rather poor form, it does jeopardise the 'aura' of the umpires selecting the fairest and best players out on the field for that game.

silky-smooth · Sep 21, 2004

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Umpires for the game: Michael Vozzo, Matthew Head, Darren Goldspink.

Votes:
3) Matthew Lloyd
2) Ben Cousins
1) Chris Judd

Homer · Sep 21, 2004

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Yze_Magic said:
I agree

When he missed out on votes in round 3, I laughed almost as hard as when Matty Whelan ironed him out in the Elimination Final

Poor form. Low act.

Total Package · Sep 21, 2004

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JUBJUB said:
But votes are done straight after a game.He called McLaren a corrupt cheat about 5 days later.

BTW,Hird was right about Goofy.

Nah... if you remember rightly he called McLaren corrupt the week before... I am certain of it.. cos I was in bigfooty saying he should be suspended for it.... and I was also spewing that matthew Lloyd had a 2 week suspension overturned... so it was definately the week before he went off.

Nardz · Sep 21, 2004

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Shane O'Bree vs port adelaide round 6:

26 kicks, 12 handballs, 8 marks, 8 tackles, 1 goal, 0 votes. now lets get over it.

scottywiper · Sep 21, 2004

To quote Paul Gough:
"Essendon skipper James Hird has ended a week of controversy by producing one of his greatest individual performances to steer the Bombers to a thrilling and much-needed win against West Coast at Telstra Dome on Saturday night."
But not a vote to be seen...seems the umpires were grumpy with someone...

Nardz · Sep 21, 2004

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Total Package said:
Nah... if you remember rightly he called McLaren corrupt the week before... I am certain of it.. cos I was in bigfooty saying he should be suspended for it.... and I was also spewing that matthew Lloyd had a 2 week suspension overturned... so it was definately the week before he went off.

i think ur right about that.

The_Postinator · Sep 21, 2004

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Homer said:
Poor form. Low act.

haven't come to expect any better from the board's lowest member

The_Postinator · Sep 21, 2004

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NaDeR said:
Shane O'Bree vs port adelaide round 6:

26 kicks, 12 handballs, 8 marks, 8 tackles, 1 goal, 0 votes. now lets get over it.

There's 8 posession difference, 2 goals and oh yeah, A MATCH-WINNING LAST QUARTER + GOAL

In future please don't post trash statistics that don't even back up your point, it just makes you look like an idiot and wastes everyone's time.

Total Package · Sep 21, 2004

scottywiper said:
To quote Paul Gough:
"Essendon skipper James Hird has ended a week of controversy by producing one of his greatest individual performances to steer the Bombers to a thrilling and much-needed win against West Coast at Telstra Dome on Saturday night."
But not a vote to be seen...seems the umpires were grumpy with someone...

controversy = Calling umpires cheats and corrupt.

eddiesmith · Sep 21, 2004

I said after the Game Cousins and Lloyd to get 3,2 and a toss up between Judd and Hird as Hird only played on good qtr. Looks like the umps saw it the same way I did as they do discuss votes at half time and a last qtr effort doesnt win you votes. The media overhyped it and players have played better games and not polled. Not worth whingeing about

pfinn · Sep 21, 2004

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Total Package said:
I prefer to think of it as justice actually. You couldnt expect the umpires to be favourable to him after he called them corrupt cheats.

Then they turn around and prove his comments to be correct.

eddiesmith · Sep 21, 2004

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I said afterwards he would be lucky to get votes, Lloyd was the best player by far, Cousins the next best and he and Judd would fight it out for 1, but Judds consistency would win out. Spot on. One qtr and 3 average ones littered with clangers including one of the worst kicks ever where he gave the eagles a goal due to no left foot and kicking it higher than it actually travelled in length causing an uncontested mark to a bomber becoming a three on one to Eagles and a goal.

Not one of Hirdys best and O'Bree had 4 more possesions than Hird in those stats he showed. Try reading it properly

MOJOE · Sep 21, 2004

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Yze_Magic said:
I agree

When he missed out on votes in round 3, I laughed almost as hard as when Matty Whelan ironed him out in the Elimination Final

5pts was it???

Nardz · Sep 21, 2004

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The_Postinator said:
There's 8 posession difference, 2 goals and oh yeah, A MATCH-WINNING LAST QUARTER + GOAL

In future please don't post trash statistics that don't even back up your point, it just makes you look like an idiot and wastes everyone's time.

8 possession difference??
how on earth did u work that one out. last time i checked 38 > 34.
perhaps some time spent in a grade 3 maths class might do you good.

I think you missed my point anyhow.

Stats are irrelevant. However If you do wanna look at the stats, How bout the stat that of the 34 touches hird had, 7 were clangers. 20% of his possesions were unforced errors, That is rather high if you ask me. I dont have O'bree's clanger count at hand for that game, but it probably wouldve been high.

The reason i pointed out obrees stats for that game was not to say he deserved votes, it was to say that high stats dont always earn votes, idiot.

silky-smooth · Sep 21, 2004

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NaDeR said:
8 possession difference??
how on earth did u work that one out. last time i checked 38 > 34.
perhaps some time spent in a grade 3 maths class might do you good.

I think you missed my point anyhow.

Stats are irrelevant. However If you do wanna look at the stats, How bout the stat that of the 34 touches hird had, 7 were clangers. 20% of his possesions were unforced errors, That is rather high if you ask me. I dont have O'bree's clanger count at hand for that game, but it probably wouldve been high.

The reason i pointed out obrees stats for that game was not to say he deserved votes, it was to say that high stats dont always earn votes, idiot.

O'Bree had 3 clangers that day. Thanks to the Advertiser again for that stat.

silky-smooth · Sep 21, 2004

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BTW... I don't collect every newspaper I buy, I just keep the Saturday/Sunday and Monday sports sections each week for the AFL... that was in situations like this, I can look back on. And credit actually goes to the Sunday Mail for Hird's stats

Nardz · Sep 21, 2004

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silky-smooth said:
O'Bree had 3 clangers that day. Thanks to the Advertiser again for that stat.

in that case if we're going by stats wouldnt there be more of a case of injustice for O'bree missing votes??

Wait sorry i forgot, his surname isnt Hird....

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