Carlton Blues' savage pokies grab from Richmond and Bulldogs

Collingwood 4 eternity · Apr 15, 2010

Pretty hard on the Tigers and Doggies to have a revenue stream stripped from them.

POKIES king Bruce Mathieson is plotting a Carlton coup that will strip Richmond and the Western Bulldogs of a fortune in gaming.

Mathieson, a former Blues director, stunned the Tigers and Bulldogs when he revealed he would transfer two hotel leases controlled by the AFL clubs to Carlton.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-blues-savage-pokies-grab/story-e6frf9jf-1225854279428

alfy! · Apr 15, 2010

culture

Allbetsroff · Apr 15, 2010

All pokies in existence should be crushed and dismantled. Organisations that operate based on the revenue from pokies don't deserve to exist.

Mitchell Madness · Apr 15, 2010

Can transfer the machines, not the hotel though.

secondly, it would mean that they couldnt get Tabaret Machines, Tatts however would easily swoop in.

third, in 2012, Tatts and Tabaret lose their Duopoly on the Machines in Victoria, and each venue will purchase the machines outright, rather then leasing them from the two companies.

And finally, there are plenty of companies who work in the gaming industry (ALH for example) and im sure that they would come in to help out both clubs. They own the lease to a fair portion of the machines in Victoria.

wotdude25 · Apr 15, 2010

Both clubs are in either Bulldog's or Richmond's heartlands. I'm not a fan of pokies myself, but I can say the communities will likely snub the venues when the leases change. I can see Mathieson begging both footy clubs to take them back, but they will both refuse as they should.
The venues themselves will be victims of this.

Brad Roo · Apr 15, 2010

The Fevola headline just sent my irony meter off the dial.

Naughton · Apr 15, 2010

wotdude25 said:
Both clubs are in either Bulldog's or Richmond's heartlands. I'm not a fan of pokies myself, but I can say the communities will likely snub the venues when the leases change. I can see Mathieson begging both footy clubs to take them back, but they will both refuse as they should.
The venues themselves will be victims of this.

Are you a time-traveller from the 1950's?

blues4flag · Apr 15, 2010

Not at all happy of the club generating income through Pokie machines. :thumbsdown:

SurreyBlue · Apr 15, 2010

Excellent....keep it up Blues...no prisoners from now on!

Perce · Apr 15, 2010

It can be a handy way to generate revenue from your own players. Just take a look at Steve Price when he was skipper of the Canterbury Bulldogs in the NRL. Effectively put his house through the club's pokie machines.

chardonnay · Apr 15, 2010

Mitchell Madness said:
Can transfer the machines, not the hotel though.

secondly, it would mean that they couldnt get Tabaret Machines, Tatts however would easily swoop in.

third, in 2012, Tatts and Tabaret lose their Duopoly on the Machines in Victoria, and each venue will purchase the machines outright, rather then leasing them from the two companies.

And finally, there are plenty of companies who work in the gaming industry (ALH for example) and im sure that they would come in to help out both clubs. They own the lease to a fair portion of the machines in Victoria.

Mitch, the pokies auction starts soon :thumbsdown:

.. club premises have a sweet heart deal with the State Govt, but the pubs as investments, they are going to have to bid to keep what they got ... ouch! Why the Pies want out of the 'Eddies disaster' pubs, they are going to have to stick bulk money in to keep the pokies, cash money, no terms (they owe Westpac $10 mil due & payable 2010).
#1 pokies owner in Vic: Woolworths. Mathieson has a deal with Woolies.

See why the Munday Group hit troubled waters:
This week Mr Munday blamed the devaluation of his pub portfolio and the State Government's recent gaming licence regulations on the failure of his business

Giants FC · Apr 15, 2010

Allbetsroff said:
All pokies in existence should be crushed and dismantled. Organisations that operate based on the revenue from pokies don't deserve to exist.

Agree 100%. As evidenced by the epidemic of bankruptcies and financial problems, fraud and embezzlement, and child neglect, that occurs on a daily basis as a direct result of poker machines.

mediumsizered · Apr 15, 2010

wotdude25 said:
Both clubs are in either Bulldog's or Richmond's heartlands. I'm not a fan of pokies myself, but I can say the communities will likely snub the venues when the leases change. I can see Mathieson begging both footy clubs to take them back, but they will both refuse as they should.
The venues themselves will be victims of this.

It's been a long time since Williamstown was the Bulldogs' heartland. I don't remember Steve Bracks proclaiming allegiance to the Bulldogs in the years he was the local member of parliament for the area.

Given the cosmopolitan make up of Richmond these days, I wonder how many of the local residents are Richmond supporters. Certainly one of the highest profile residents, Molly Meldrum, certainly isn't.

I think suburban Melbourne is a long time removed from the days when the local community exclusively supported their local VFL team.

The Fireman · Apr 15, 2010

What is it about Carlton and this sort of shady crap...?

Brad Roo · Apr 15, 2010

The unfortunate truth is that pokies addicts don't give a damn about football allegiances.

Addicts shop where it is convenient.

andypie · Apr 15, 2010

Allbetsroff said:
All pokies in existence should be crushed and dismantled. Organisations that operate based on the revenue from pokies don't deserve to exist.

Agree wholeheartedly.
So I suppose the Victorian government will be first to go.

mediumsizered · Apr 15, 2010

The Fireman said:
What is it about Carlton and this sort of shady crap...?

Nothing shady about this at all. The owners of the pubs can assign the lease to whoever they see fit (within relevant licensing laws).

Once again you have to admire the media & its ability to be behind the times. This information was posted on the Carlton board several weeks ago by a Carlton supporter.

mcuzzy · Apr 15, 2010

Brad Roo said:
The Fevola headline just sent my irony meter off the dial.

LOL was just thinking that

Dogs_r_barking · Apr 15, 2010

mediumsizered said:
It's been a long time since Williamstown was the Bulldogs' heartland. I don't remember Steve Bracks proclaiming allegiance to the Bulldogs in the years he was the local member of parliament for the area.

Who needs Bracks when we have Julia

Given the cosmopolitan make up of Richmond these days, I wonder how many of the local residents are Richmond supporters. Certainly one of the highest profile residents, Molly Meldrum, certainly isn't.

I think suburban Melbourne is a long time removed from the days when the local community exclusively supported their local VFL team.

Williamstown Seaqulls is our affiliate in the VFL - and that is where many of our players live so don't agree.

chardonnay · Apr 15, 2010

andypie said:
Agree wholeheartedly.
So I suppose the Victorian government will be first to go.

No pokies dollars in the WA clubs, not a cent ... as for Vic, the elephant in the room is the auction of pubs pokies, so so secret !! :thumbsdown:

The Fireman · Apr 15, 2010

mediumsizered said:
Nothing shady about this at all. The owners of the pubs can assign the lease to whoever they see fit (within relevant licensing laws).

Once again you have to admire the media & its ability to be behind the times. This information was posted on the Carlton board several weeks ago by a Carlton supporter.

Ok I should rephrase, what is it with Carlton and the way it moves forward using shonky means of support?
You don't need me to elaborate do you?

Donakebab · Apr 15, 2010

Will they pay back the AFL with the proceeds?

Freo Big Fella · Apr 15, 2010

No sympathy for any club that relies on the pokies as a cash cow.

Foul, scummy machines of the lowest type.

Silvagnis · Apr 16, 2010

Donakebab said:
Will they pay back the AFL with the proceeds?

We'll pay seven cents in the dollar like The Fireman's honest club.

Mathieson is every bit as honest as Lindsay Fox who financially supported the St Kilda Football Club.

Some people have their head in the sand.

bluespooner · Apr 16, 2010

TheGeneral said:
We'll pay seven cents in the dollar like The Fireman's honest club.

Mathieson is every bit as honest as Lindsay Fox who financially supported the St Kilda Football Club.

Some people have their head in the sand.

In that case the AFL should call in the bailiffs or revoke your license. I mean what type of lowlife outfit welchs on a generous no interest loan of $1.5 Million.

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