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One of those former captains played in a premiership though.
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One of those former captains played in a premiership though.
You mean after the club bottomed out in the mid '00s & then started on an upward trajectory, which culminated in a premiership a year or 2 before most people (Collingwood supporters included) would have predicted. You carry on as if the team was underachieving in the years prior to 2010, yet they had not long come out of a rebuild.
I guess on the flip side we can safely say that Buckley is getting the most out of himself because he is not a very good coach however as long as Eddie is president, Buckley stays, something the rest of the competition are very pleased about.
And yet hetook over from one of the said premiership coaches & led the team to a wooden spoon.
No-one should ever underestimate the achievement of Leigh Matthews in coaching that 1990 team to a premiership (in fact any coach who achieves premiership success at Collingwood deserves extra credit, because so many have failed in the last 50+ years).
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My comment was really to highlight Buckley's failings than to give any credit to Tony Shaw.
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So, "turning to s**t" is missing the Finals once in 10 years?
It's funny to see just how large the gap is in expectations for Collingwood compared to Carlton, and how huge the gulf is when it comes to the definition of failure is at each club
I'm still not sure last year was seen as "turning to s**t" for Carlton.... just as bad start, and some unlucky moments
If only you asked of yourselves, what you seem to expect from/for us
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Shawt I cannot disagree with what you state above re Carlton.
I guess for most of us from afar it has just been bizarre to witness a President who is so infatuated by an ex player that he could not bare the thought of him going to another club so he gave him the head coach position and in doing so go rid of a premiership coach. It is unlikely this has happened before nor will it ever happen again. If people want to suggest Buckley was the best credentialed man for the job after an exhaustive interview process then fair enough but most would see it akin to the under 10's father as coach favouring his less than skillful son.
Only history will show with Bucks and I am comfortable in giving him his chance to prove me wrong. Unfortunately so far he has been on a hiding to nothing and things do not bode well. I also think it puts Eddie and by extension Collingwood in a very delicate situation should things go from bad to worse over the next 2 seasons. How do you sack a favourite son and one that the President most likely still has posters of on his bedroom wall?
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You've clearly missed the point. You continually tell us how poor our team has been and talk up your own team yet we have both won two flags in 30 years.
Saying I am selective with my date ranges is laughable - I've gone back 20 years then 30...should I go back 57 years to pick up your third last premiership?! Get some depth in your arguments and stop deluding yourself that you are a successful football club. TWO FLAGS IN 50 YEARS...you must be so proud.
Your statement about our 'current predicament' is quite interesting. We have a premiership winning coach, have dramatically changed our list (and culture) and have recruited under 23y.o's to meet our needs. I'm excited about our future.
In the same time you have missed the finals and recruited old hacks like Varcoe, Jessie white and the big Q. But it's ok...you have Nafe! Thats some predicament for you...
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So are you saying that we will be playing the FILTH in the Grand Final this year.
I don't think so.
105 years it is!
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We recruited Juddy years ago, so his age is irrelevant now.Varcoe is just under 6 years younger than Judd
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When he was what, a year older than Varcoe is now?
There are 11 players on your list that are older than him... two were recent imports
We should have known better right? Again, demanding more of us than you ask of yourselves
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Eddie puts Collingwood first
If Nathan is hurting Collingwood, I don't doubt for a moment that he'd do the right thing
I really think you underestimate Eddie's passion for the team above all else. He is pretty well versed in the history of the place, and would know that even the club greats need some help shuffling along from time to time
That time isn't now. With such a young and exciting list being developed, Nathan has made the sacrifices and pushed a longer term plan. He gets the chance to build that now, I think for 2 years before he has to start looking over his shoulder I'd we don't step up
For Nathan to put his ego aside, and take a longer road that sacrifices passable results with little upside, to look to the next generation is not what I, or anyone else expected
Voss and Hird both tried to find shortcuts with their egos raging. For Nathan to be the opposite is actually a good laugh
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Thank would make him 32 years younger than me. I hope that puts it in perspective.Varcoe is just under 6 years younger than Judd
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You could probably still get a game at Norf
And as soft as butter. He is the perfect example of a player made to look good by the players around him but who hasn't stepped up to the next level when some of those players around him have started to go backward.Varcoe is just under 6 years younger than Judd
Anyone but Norf.
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Thomas turned 26 last season so was 25 when we got him, you cant count him as older because he wasnt when he joined us. Who was the other recent import that was over 25 when we got him?When he was what, a year older than Varcoe is now?
There are 11 players on your list that are older than him... two were recent imports
We should have known better right? Again, demanding more of us than you ask of yourselves
Judd may have been a year older but was already a Brownlow medal winning Premiership captain.
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It'd be good to play the filth and beat them in the 2015 grand final... would put Eddie Everywhere and his illegitimate love child Nuffin' Buckley back in their box... who knows... we might even see Eddies head explode this yearSo are you saying that we will be playing the FILTH in the Grand Final this year.
I don't think so.
105 years it is!
You are kidding me..."just six years younger than Judd"!! You need professional help..Varcoe is just under 6 years younger than Judd
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Exhibit A
I'm talking about Judd being old... while you guys are flexing over how well you would do if you were in Grand Finals again
...and I'm the one in la-la land
I want some of what you are on...who here is talking about us being in grand finals?Exhibit A
I'm talking about Judd being old... while you guys are flexing over how well you would do if you were in Grand Finals again
...and I'm the one in la-la land
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Exhibit A
I'm talking about Judd being old... while you guys are flexing over how well you would do if you were in Grand Finals again
...and I'm the one in la-la land
I'm talking about how many years since you last beat us in a Grand Final.
105 years!
Actually 1910 sounds better
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I'm talking about how many years since you last beat us in a Grand Final.
105 years!
Actually 1910 sounds better
It would be relevant, if you were a side still reaching Grand Finals, instead of the fantasy of playing us in another one
Still, you've for the before time. The long, long ago
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