List Mgmt. 2015 Trade, Draft, Rookie Draft and FA Megathread

[NarklesHelmet]

Our only hope is to ensure Jake doesn't agree to Hawthorn - or even what he has reportedly done already and be non-committal (as in, if Essendon/Saints can't do a deal I would go to the Hawks).

We need to get on the front foot with him and make him start getting his head around the PSD and ignoring the Hawks. We will hold all the aces if he does that. But if he doesn't commit to going all the way to the PSD and continues to get manipulated by the Hawks and Dodoro we are screwed.

Hope our club is working overtime with his manager to ram the message home tonight that PSD might very well come into play now after today's events.

 

[Verdun66]

Hurley's contract ends in 2017. Hooker's ends next year.

Fair enough. We can wait until 2017.

 

[P Train]

Working all day, just smashed out 30 pages in 30 minutes.

Who has reported that Richmond, Hawthorn are keen? As far as I'm aware just Jay Clarke and Tom Browne - aka Essendon mouthpieces.
Have Hawthorn confirmed their interest?
Who reported that Jake would go to Hawthorn if a deal can't get done?
And is going to the psd that big a threat? Id be confident

Exactly. Dodoros wants to work with Hawthorn, that's all he's said. He hasn't even spoken to Jake.

 

[saintbondy]

Who has pick 23? Get that and give them 23 & 24

 

[Joffaboy]

He'll have to. Dodoro has shafted himself now. Tried to be too clever by half. He has to accept any reasonable Saints offer, which is clearly now any two picks under 25!!

Don't see how

 

[blktreacle]

Dodoro said they haven't spoken to saints today. Doesn't mean the saints haven't tried to speak to them

 

[Mowman]

No way. #5 by itself is worth around #15 + #16 IMO. Given we already have #24, all we need to do is to swap #5, and #42 for say #10 and #19 from GC, send #19 with #24 to the Bombers and keep #10 for ourselves.

Hawks deal is better for the Bombers why would they take 19 & 24 then

 

[cowboysteel66]

Saints and Essendon just need to get in a room and sort this out tomorrow, I can't take another week of this.

 

[Linton St]

Didn't Carlisle state "he wanted to grow with the club, & help develop Goddard" etc.

 

[saintbondy]

Hawks deal is better for the Bombers why would they take 19 & 24 then

Because jake wants to come to us and as long as we are in the ballpark, they can't really refuse..

 

[burningdwarf]

Who has pick 23? Get that and give them 23 & 24

I think they do, so that would be an awkward negotiation.

 

[Feerits Elf]

Hawks deal is better for the Bombers why would they take 19 & 24 then

Only works if Jake says he won't go to Hawks

 

[Mowman]

Because jake wants to come to us and as long as we are in the ballpark, they can't really refuse..

Of course they can, they will get the best deal they can for their club

 

[saintbondy]

I think they do, so that would be an awkward negotiation.

Oops... Awks.. Well pick 22 then

 

[CHBench]

Dodoro better hope Jake doesn't come out and say no to Hawthorn, I just want St Kilda.

Will have worked Essendon out of any half decent offer from us.

 

[Richter]

Don't see how

Because they have agreed in principle to trade Carlisle for (#15 and #18 - #41). We don't need to match that exactly just get in the ball park. Dodoro can't hold firm for the sake of a few picks around that area. They'd be smashed in mediation.

What I read in to today is that Jake and his manager would agree to go to mediation but not the psd.
(psd too risky for Jake so his back-up is the Hawks).

IMO the ball park now is one teen pick + #24 with nothing coming back from the Bombers.

We just need to get hold of that teen pick now, which given that GC have #16 and #19 already, with the likelihood of Dixon going to Port for their #10 - they would surely be dead keen to swap two of those picks for our #5.

 

[Ducky Tie]

More than anything else, Dodoro's willingness, desperation even to play this out in the public spectrum shows a complete lack of professionalism and a lack of intelligence. This is looking more and more like an intimidatory tactic to shock us into coughing up pick 5. He went public from day one saying five was a fair deal, now he cries publicly that lord and saviour Hawthorn have come to the party. The fact that he claims he wouldn't accept 5 now that 15 and 18 are on the table from Hawthorn shows either the falseness or complete stupidity of his rational as it's hard to believe a sane manager would accept 15 and 18 over 5.

 

[Saint believer]

well there is that statement

Well managed saints!!!

 

[saintbondy]

Because they have agreed in principle to trade Carlisle for (#15 and #18 - #41). We don't need to match that exactly just get in the ball park. Dodoro can't hold firm for the sake of a few picks around that area. They'd be smashed in mediation.

What I read in to today is that Jake and his manager would agree to go to mediation but not the psd.

IMO the ball park now is one teen pick + #24 with nothing coming back from the Bombers.

Jake and his manager havent said that though... Only Dodo and the media have said he'd go to hawks before psd..

 

[burningdwarf]

Anyone else thinking that trading next years 1st wouldn't be an absolute disaster? Add in Carlisle, Mathieson, Freeman, Rice etc, could hopefully push up towards the top 8-10.

 

[Ducky Tie]

Anyone else thinking that trading next years 1st wouldn't be an absolute disaster? Add in Carlisle, Mathieson, Freeman, Rice etc, could hopefully push up towards the top 8-10.

Jaegar.

 

[Ekomaira]

The PSD is the only fitting ending to this story.

 

[NarklesHelmet]

More than anything else, Dodoro's willingness, desperation even to play this out in the public spectrum shows a complete lack of professionalism and a lack of intelligence. This is looking more and more like an intimidatory tactic to shock us into coughing up pick 5. He went public from day one saying five was a fair deal, now he cries publicly that lord and saviour Hawthorn have come to the party. The fact that he claims he wouldn't accept 5 now that 15 and 18 are on the table from Hawthorn shows either the falseness or complete stupidity of his rational as it's hard to believe a sane manager would accept 15 and 18 over 5.

It's Dodoro. Logic doesn't enter into it. He's arrogant, stupid and stubborn. That is an awful combination that means he is simultaneously hard-to-read while being almost impossible to deal with.

 

[cowboysteel66]

Can Essendon trade to Hawks if he doesn't want to go?

 

[Fortius Quo]

And now essendon are my most hated team!! They were probably around the 3rd or 4th worst! Now I want them to rot and be down near the bottom for a long time you cheating pack of scum