Position 2024 Fantasy Defenders

[WaynesWorld19]

Defenders
Player	Club	Position	Games 2023	Average 2023		Player	Club	Position	Games 2023	Average 2023
Nick Daicos	COLL	DEF/MID	20	108.8		Alex Keath	WB	DEF	18	51.4
James Sicily	HAW	DEF	19	104.5		Mark Keane	ADEL	DEF	5	51.2
Jack Sinclair	STK	DEF	23	102.2		Aliir Aliir	PA	DEF	22	50.9
Luke Ryan	FREM	DEF	23	99.4		Billy Frampton	COLL	DEF	15	50.6
Nic Newman	CARL	DEF	21	98		Taylor Duryea	WB	DEF	20	50.5
Harry Sheezel	NM	DEF	23	97.3		Sam Frost	HAW	DEF	18	49.6
Tom Stewart	GEEL	DEF	22	96.3		Jack Henry	GEEL	DEF	11	49.5
Liam Duggan	WCE	DEF	22	96.3		Brandon Starcevich	BL	DEF	23	49.3
Lachie Whitfield	GWS	DEF	21	94.7		Jake Kolodjashnij	GEEL	DEF	19	49.3
Dan Houston	PA	DEF	23	92.7		Oleg Markov	COLL	DEF	20	49.1
Jayden Short	RICH	DEF	16	92.5		Mac Andrew	GCS	DEF	17	48.9
Mitch Duncan	GEEL	DEF	16	91.3		Jordan Boyd	CARL	DEF	8	48.5
Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera	STK	DEF	23	91.3		Alex Cincotta	CARL	DEF	16	48.1
Jake Lloyd	SYD	DEF	22	89.7		Sam De Koning	GEEL	DEF	19	47.9
Hayden Young	FREM	DEF	22	89.2		Jai Serong	HAW	DEF	2	47
Callum Wilkie	STK	DEF	23	87.2		Daniel Turner	MELB	DEF	2	47
Mason Redman	ESS	DEF	23	85.8		Jack Payne	BL	DEF	22	46.5
Angus Brayshaw	MELB	DEF/MID	23	85.3		Josh Rotham	WCE	DEF	13	46.4
Bailey Dale	WB	DEF	23	85.3		Judd McVee	MELB	DEF	23	46.1
Lachie Ash	GWS	DEF	23	84.3		Tom McCartin	SYD	DEF	14	45.7
Lachie Weller	GCS	DEF	9	83.8		Miller Bergman	NM	DEF	12	44.9
Wil Powell	GCS	DEF	18	82.1		Lachie Jones	PA	DEF	13	44.6
Andrew McGrath	ESS	DEF	23	81.8		Aaron Francis	SYD	DEF	14	44.5
Dyson Heppell	ESS	DEF	22	81.6		Nathan Murphy	COLL	DEF	21	44.2
Brodie Smith	ADEL	DEF	22	81.4		Nik Cox	ESS	DEF/MID	6	44.2
Nick Vlastuin	RICH	DEF	21	81.2		Alex Pearce	FREM	DEF	23	44.2
John Noble	COLL	DEF	23	81		Lloyd Johnston	GCS	DEF	2	44
Blake Hardwick	HAW	DEF	23	81		Ben Long	GCS	DEF	15	43.8
Jordan Ridley	ESS	DEF	17	80.8		Joel Hamling	SYD	DEF	4	43.8
Jarman Impey	HAW	DEF	22	80.6		Patrick Parnell	ADEL	DEF	5	43.6
Daniel Rioli	RICH	DEF	23	80.3		Jaxon Prior	BL	DEF	5	43
Ed Richards	WB	DEF	19	79.8		Liam Jones	WB	DEF	18	42.6
Alex Witherden	WCE	DEF	22	78.4		Trent McKenzie	PA	DEF	17	42.5
Christian Salem	MELB	DEF	14	77.5		Sean Lemmens	GCS	DEF	11	42.3
James Trezise	RICH	DEF	1	77		Kaine Baldwin	ESS	DEF	4	42
Jayden Hunt	WCE	DEF	23	76.7		Massimo D'Ambrosio	HAW	DEF	8	41.8
Jordan Clark	FREM	DEF	23	76.5		Lewis Melican	SYD	DEF	7	40.9
Trent Rivers	MELB	DEF	23	76.5		Lachlan Cowan	CARL	DEF	7	40.6
Darcy Macpherson	GCS	DEF	23	76.1		Esava Ratugolea	PA	DEF	16	40.5
Mitchell Hinge	ADEL	DEF	22	75.7		Jed Bews	GEEL	DEF	15	40.1
Luke McDonald	NM	DEF	22	75.2		Nick Murray	ADEL	DEF	17	39.9
Rory Atkins	GCS	DEF	17	74.7		Darcy Gardiner	BL	DEF	2	39.5
Brayden Maynard	COLL	DEF	22	74.6		Zaine Cordy	STK	DEF/FWD	13	39.2
Adam Saad	CARL	DEF	22	73.9		James Borlase	ADEL	DEF	4	39
Connor Budarick	GCS	DEF	2	73.5		Hugo Ralphsmith	RICH	DEF	13	38.9
Jason Johannisen	WB	DEF	11	73.5		Ryan Gardner	WB	DEF	10	38.8
Corey Wagner	FREM	DEF	9	72.8		Brandon Walker	FREM	DEF	14	38.6
Harry Himmelberg	GWS	DEF	22	72.3		Karl Worner	FREM	DEF	4	37.5
Wayne Milera	ADEL	DEF	22	71.4		Dylan Grimes	RICH	DEF	22	37.1
Nick Blakey	SYD	DEF	23	71.4		Jy Farrar	GCS	DEF	9	36.9
Oliver Florent	SYD	DEF	23	71		Tylar Young	RICH	DEF	19	36.9
Mitch McGovern	CARL	DEF	19	70.7		Darragh Joyce	BL	DEF	5	36
Harry Perryman	GWS	DEF	19	70.5		Jase Burgoyne	PA	DEF	5	35.8
Liam Stocker	STK	DEF	22	70.5		Kallan Dawson	NM	DEF	1	34
Jacob Weitering	CARL	DEF	23	70.4		Harry Edwards	WCE	DEF	2	33.5
Jeremy McGovern	WCE	DEF	9	70.3		Jordon Butts	ADEL	DEF	17	33.4
Brodie Kemp	CARL	DEF	15	70.1		James O'Donnell	WB	DEF	12	33.1
Zach Guthrie	GEEL	DEF	23	70.1		Jackson Archer	NM	DEF	5	32.8
Elliot Yeo	WCE	DEF/MID	10	70.1		Luke Cleary	WB	DEF	1	31
Brennan Cox	FREM	DEF	20	69.9		Oisin Mullin	GEEL	DEF	6	30.8
Liam Baker	RICH	DEF/FWD	23	69.8		Bodhi Uwland	GCS	DEF	3	30.7
Keidean Coleman	BL	DEF	20	69.6		Rhett Bazzo	WCE	DEF	11	30.3
Steven May	MELB	DEF	21	69.5		Adam Kennedy	GWS	DEF/FWD	5	26
Nick Hind	ESS	DEF	16	69.1		Denver Grainger-Barras	HAW	DEF/FWD	7	25.9
Harris Andrews	BL	DEF	23	68.8		James Blanck	HAW	DEF	15	24.3
Isaac Quaynor	COLL	DEF	23	68.5		Jakob Ryan	COLL	DEF	1	19
Isaac Cumming	GWS	DEF/MID	17	68.3		James Madden	BL	DEF	2	18
Jayden Laverde	ESS	DEF	19	67.4		Tom Clurey	PA	DEF	1	16
Chayce Jones	ADEL	DEF/MID	18	67.3		Hugh Bond	ADEL	DEF
Connor Idun	GWS	DEF	23	67		Will Hamill	ADEL	DEF
Nathan Broad	RICH	DEF	19	66.9		Carter Michael	BL	DEF
Jamaine Jones	WCE	DEF	13	66.6		Domanic Akuei	CARL	DEF
Nick Haynes	GWS	DEF	19	66.5		Sam Durdin	CARL	DEF
Jack Scrimshaw	HAW	DEF	16	66.5		Zac Williams	CARL	DEF
Tom Cole	WCE	DEF	12	65.9		Charlie Dean	COLL	DEF
Braeden Campbell	SYD	DEF/MID	22	65.2		Lewis Hayes	ESS	DEF
Conor McKenna	BL	DEF	23	65.1		Zach Reid	ESS	DEF
Noah Balta	RICH	DEF	23	64.7		Hugh Davies	FREM	DEF
Josh Weddle	HAW	DEF	17	64.5		Joshua Draper	FREM	DEF
Kane Farrell	PA	DEF	20	64.5		Oscar Murdoch	GEEL	DEF
Ryan Burton	PA	DEF	20	64.2		Emerson Jeka	GEEL	DEF
Darcy Moore	COLL	DEF	21	63.4		Caleb Graham	GCS	DEF
Marcus Windhager	STK	DEF/MID	18	63.2		Sandy Brock	GCS	DEF
Ryan Lester	BL	DEF	16	63.1		Leek Aleer	GWS	DEF
Jimmy Webster	STK	DEF	16	63.1		Blake Howes	MELB	DEF
Jeremy Howe	COLL	DEF	11	62.9		Jed Adams	MELB	DEF
Seamus Mitchell	HAW	DEF	14	62.9		Kyle Marshall	PA	DEF
Jake Bowey	MELB	DEF	21	62.3		Tom McCallum	PA	DEF
Tom Brown	RICH	DEF	1	62		Josh Gibcus	RICH	DEF
Josh Battle	STK	DEF	22	62		Kaleb Smith	RICH	DEF
Mark O'Connor	GEEL	DEF/MID	22	61.9		Angus McLennan	STK	DEF
Luke Nankervis	ADEL	DEF	4	61.8		James Van Es	STK	DEF
Brady Hough	WCE	DEF	15	61.5		Caleb Mitchell	SYD	DEF/MID
Darcy Wilmot	BL	DEF	23	60.7		Cooper Vickery	SYD	DEF
Jack Bowes	GEEL	DEF	17	60.7		Harrison Arnold	SYD	DEF
Heath Chapman	FREM	DEF	3	60.3		Jaiden Magor	SYD	DEF
Dylan Williams	PA	DEF	20	60		William Edwards	SYD	DEF
Miles Bergman	PA	DEF	22	60		Coby Burgiel	WCE	DEF
Dane Rampe	SYD	DEF	14	59.6		Jordyn Baker	WCE	DEF
Josh Worrell	ADEL	DEF	12	59.1		Jedd Busslinger	WB	DEF
Jake Kelly	ESS	DEF	17	58.9		Nick Coffield	WB	DEF
Aidan Corr	NM	DEF	19	58.8		Oscar Ryan	ADEL	DEF
Charlie Ballard	GCS	DEF	23	57.3		Daniel Curtin	ADEL	DEF/MID
Jack Buckley	GWS	DEF	23	57.2		Charlie Edwards	ADEL	DEF/MID
Lewis Young	CARL	DEF	15	56.7		Zane Zakostelsky	BL	DEF/RUCK
Changkuoth Jiath	HAW	DEF	8	56.5		Billy Wilson	CARL	DEF/MID
Caleb Marchbank	CARL	DEF	5	56		Matthew Carroll	CARL	DEF
Sam Taylor	GWS	DEF	15	55.9		Tew Jiath	COLL	DEF
Tom Doedee	BL	DEF	11	55.5		Luamon Lual	ESS	DEF
Robbie Fox	SYD	DEF	19	55.3		Archie Roberts	ESS	DEF
Harry Cunningham	SYD	DEF	23	55		Oscar McDonald	FREM	DEF
Jake Lever	MELB	DEF	22	54.7		Ollie Murphy	FREM	DEF
Ethan Hughes	FREM	DEF	20	54.5		Connor O'Sullivan	GEEL	DEF
Adam Tomlinson	MELB	DEF	8	54.5		Lawson Humphries	GEEL	DEF/MID
Josh Goater	NM	DEF	10	54.5		Will Graham	GCS	DEF/MID
Sam Collins	GCS	DEF	23	54.4		Sam Clohesy	GCS	DEF
Ben Paton	STK	DEF	12	54.4		James Leake	GWS	DEF
Tom Barrass	WCE	DEF	14	53.9		Joe Fonti	GWS	DEF
Laitham Vandermeer	WB	DEF	11	53.1		William McCabe	HAW	DEF
Dougal Howard	STK	DEF	18	52.8		Bodie Ryan	HAW	DEF
Ben McKay	ESS	DEF	19	52.6		Toby Pink	NM	DEF
Bailey Macdonald	HAW	DEF	2	52.5		Riley Hardeman	NM	DEF
Max Michalanney	ADEL	DEF	22	52.4		Wil Dawson	NM	DEF/FWD
Brandon Zerk-Thatcher	PA	DEF	22	52.2		Liam O'Connell	STK	DEF
Griffin Logue	NM	DEF	15	51.9		Angus Hastie	STK	DEF
Harrison Petty	MELB	DEF/FWD	14	51.8		Arie Schoenmaker	STK	DEF
Sam Banks	RICH	DEF	6	51.7		Patrick Snell	SYD	DEF/FWD
Joel Jeffrey	GCS	DEF/FWD	7	51.4

 

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[JADED]

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Could be a handy DEF cheapie.
What was his 22avg?
Should get full discount.

 

[tigs2010]

Could be a handy DEF cheapie.
What was his 22avg?
Should get full discount.

Averaged 40. So does that mean he gets 30% and will be priced at 28?

 

[omgfridge]

New skipper Duggan so far been training with the mids. Played a bit there last season but maybe something to watch.

 

[Cm Perfect]

New skipper Duggan so far been training with the mids. Played a bit there last season but maybe something to watch.

The issue is he's priced at 96 thanks to those games last year where he picked up 12 & 13 cheapo marks playing across half back. Not sure he beats that average as a mid tbh.

 

[omgfridge]

The issue is he's priced at 96 thanks to those games last year where he picked up 12 & 13 cheapo marks playing across half back. Not sure he beats that average as a mid tbh.

True, might just move up the board in draft formats.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[WaynesWorld19]

 

[Exambolor]

One role I’m really keen on seeing is who take’s Hurn’s cheapie role at the Eagles and there’s a few candidates. Duggan’s not really that guy but he does get them sometimes

Witho you’d think would be up there, but there’s a chance he might not be best 23 come Round 1.

Hough and Jones could be the other two.

 

[happy_eagle]

One role I’m really keen on seeing is who take’s Hurn’s cheapie role at the Eagles and there’s a few candidates. Duggan’s not really that guy but he does get them sometimes

Witho you’d think would be up there, but there’s a chance he might not be best 23 come Round 1.

Hough and Jones could be the other two.

I think Duggan gets thrown into the middle a lot more this year. With Shuey retired, Sheed currently in a moon boot and Elliott Yeo not far off his bi-monthly injury there needs to be another old body in the middle other than Tim Kelly.

Hough potentially, but I see him playing more a wing role (hopefully displacing Gaff) this year. Realistically it would be Witho if he's best 22. Otherwise it would be a combination of Hunt, Jones, Hough depending on who is floating back at the time.

 

[JDWCE]

One role I’m really keen on seeing is who take’s Hurn’s cheapie role at the Eagles and there’s a few candidates. Duggan’s not really that guy but he does get them sometimes

Witho you’d think would be up there, but there’s a chance he might not be best 23 come Round 1.

Hough and Jones could be the other two.

I think Duggan gets thrown into the middle a lot more this year. With Shuey retired, Sheed currently in a moon boot and Elliott Yeo not far off his bi-monthly injury there needs to be another old body in the middle other than Tim Kelly.

Hough potentially, but I see him playing more a wing role (hopefully displacing Gaff) this year. Realistically it would be Witho if he's best 22. Otherwise it would be a combination of Hunt, Jones, Hough depending on who is floating back at the time.

I like Hough. I’m bullish on him as a fantasy type. I think Burgiel is a smokey but still too early to tell if he has a role in the best 22. Will certainly need to work his way in so not really relevant right now. But yeah, I think Hough sees a solid uptick this year. Don’t think there will be a sole player that takes on the role. We all expect Witherden to slowly lose his place in the side at some point but we aren’t the coaches so who knows

 

[Exambolor]

I like Hough. I’m bullish on him as a fantasy type. I think Burgiel is a smokey but still too early to tell if he has a role in the best 22. Will certainly need to work his way in so not really relevant right now. But yeah, I think Hough sees a solid uptick this year. Don’t think there will be a sole player that takes on the role. We all expect Witherden to slowly lose his place in the side at some point but we aren’t the coaches so who knows

Hough and Jones in particular are quite cheap too so you could punt on both to start. Jones is a tick over 600k and Hough is mid 500s

Cole, Barrass, Gov etc are more lockdown defenders and not cheapie guys, so it would have to be down to Hough, Jones, Witho or a mix of three

 

[JADED]

Feels weird not having Docherty in this thread.

 

[tigs2010]

What are people doing about Daicos? Picking or fading to start?

I think with more midfield minutes he’s going to surpass 108 for the season.

He has an early bye but one of the later ones and he will have 4 games prior.

Sydney will probably put some time in to slowing him albeit probably not a hard tag like Clarke last year.

Saints then Brisbane I think he goes massive against.

Then last game before his bye he possibly cops a hard Finn tag.

Any predictions on whether his price goes up, down or stays similar by time he’s had his bye?

 

[happy_eagle]

What are people doing about Daicos? Picking or fading to start?

I think with more midfield minutes he’s going to surpass 108 for the season.

He has an early bye but one of the later ones and he will have 4 games prior.

Sydney will probably put some time in to slowing him albeit probably not a hard tag like Clarke last year.

Saints then Brisbane I think he goes massive against.

Then last game before his bye he possibly cops a hard Finn tag.

Any predictions on whether his price goes up, down or stays similar by time he’s had his bye?

I'm leaning towards picking him, as I think with the lack of premium defenders (no Dawson, no Doch) I think he is potentially 10+ points better than the next best group of defenders. Yes, you might take a hit early on with the tags and the bye but in the long run you won't have to worry about having to upgrade to him later on.

 

[Joao]

H.Young is training with the mids in preseason so I'm all over that.

 

[JADED]

Apparently Zac Williams is looking ok.
I would prefer he start slow.
Has the Round 0 sighter, post Rd 1 price adjustment but then the killer round 2 bye.

Will be a must have if he goes 80 Rd zero but pick up post bye wouldn't hurt.

 

[tigs2010]

I'm leaning towards picking him, as I think with the lack of premium defenders (no Dawson, no Doch) I think he is potentially 10+ points better than the next best group of defenders. Yes, you might take a hit early on with the tags and the bye but in the long run you won't have to worry about having to upgrade to him later on.

Im leaning the same way. Think at R6 will be difficult to upgrade to a $950-$1m player. Might get stuck chasing my tail.

Apparently Zac Williams is looking ok.
I would prefer he start slow.
Has the Round 0 sighter, post Rd 1 price adjustment but then the killer round 2 bye.

Will be a must have if he goes 80 Rd zero but pick up post bye wouldn't hurt.

Just going to grab him. Not going to worry about R2 bye on a $400k player. You have an 80 guy on a bye and hopefully one of our 19-22 guys will be able to score that given it’s best 18

 

[JADED]

Just going to grab him. Not going to worry about R2 bye on a $400k player. You have an 80 guy on a bye and hopefully one of our 19-22 guys will be able to score that given it’s best 18

Will that all depend on how he goes round zero where we get a free shot to pick him or not?

 

[tigs2010]

Will that all depend on how he goes round zero where we get a free shot to pick him or not?

Definitely. If he drops a 50 then I'm going to blow my team up and start again

 

[4tune8]

What are people doing about Daicos? Picking or fading to start?

I think with more midfield minutes he’s going to surpass 108 for the season.

He has an early bye but one of the later ones and he will have 4 games prior.

Sydney will probably put some time in to slowing him albeit probably not a hard tag like Clarke last year.

Saints then Brisbane I think he goes massive against.

Then last game before his bye he possibly cops a hard Finn tag.

Any predictions on whether his price goes up, down or stays similar by time he’s had his bye?

I didn't start him last year and it hurt, that being said, I might do the same again as this year is different.

What makes it difficult for me starting him is that I also want to start Grundy and both have that rnd 5 bye. I'm sure that Daicos will be top 3 and Grundy will be right up there as well. I think that I'm forced to start Grundy due to his value and I struggle with having to deal with 2 forced trades to get the points coverage and then 2 more trades to get them back in, or in Grundy's case a possible upgrade. There's bound to be an injury or 2 and just as importantly, a 'must have' rookie that shows up. This is also compounded by the possibility of starting Gawn as well who has the rnd 6 bye.

I'm not too concerned about Daicos scoring 10pts/game over those first 4 rounds (where his pts count) especially where a Finn tag is highly likely and could result in a score of 70 or so, that alone sways me towards fading, but there's also the loss of points to consider when he's out in rnd 5 which would be another 50pts or so. If he has an ordinary score in rnd 4 then that will take (possibly) rnds 6 & 7 to cycle through meaning that he's a rnd 8 upgrade target, pretty much right in the sweet spot for upgrades

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

I’m avoiding playing the catch-up game this year. If I want someone, I’m just starting them.

Last year I swayed away from Daicos at the last minute. Then spent the next 10 weeks trying to get him back.

With injuries and form issues amongst other players, simply finding a way to trade in a premium after 5/6 weeks isn’t always as easy as it sounds.

Also saves burning a traded. The rookies wouldn’t have fattened up enough by that point you want to get him in and would likely result in a sideways trade rather than upgrading a rookie to a premo.

 

[Exambolor]

I didn't start him last year and it hurt, that being said, I might do the same again as this year is different.

What makes it difficult for me starting him is that I also want to start Grundy and both have that rnd 5 bye. I'm sure that Daicos will be top 3 and Grundy will be right up there as well. I think that I'm forced to start Grundy due to his value and I struggle with having to deal with 2 forced trades to get the points coverage and then 2 more trades to get them back in, or in Grundy's case a possible upgrade. There's bound to be an injury or 2 and just as importantly, a 'must have' rookie that shows up. This is also compounded by the possibility of starting Gawn as well who has the rnd 6 bye.

I'm not too concerned about Daicos scoring 10pts/game over those first 4 rounds (where his pts count) especially where a Finn tag is highly likely and could result in a score of 70 or so, that alone sways me towards fading, but there's also the loss of points to consider when he's out in rnd 5 which would be another 50pts or so. If he has an ordinary score in rnd 4 then that will take (possibly) rnds 6 & 7 to cycle through meaning that he's a rnd 8 upgrade target, pretty much right in the sweet spot for upgrades

If it weren’t for the Round 0 BS I’d pick Naicos but it just adds a very early headache if you do. Sic and Sinc should score similar anyway

 

[4tune8]

If it weren’t for the Round 0 BS I’d pick Naicos but it just adds a very early headache if you do. Sic and Sinc should score similar anyway

Yes it's BS allright, but we all have to deal with it. Swapping Daicos out for Young allows me to get Williams on over a rookie, I don't know if my assumptions are right and maybe I'm looking at 'blue sky' outcomes but I reckon I'm around 120-140pts better off over those first 5 rounds.

I'm thinking Young should go around 100PPG if he's got that mid role and Williams should score arounds 20PPG more than a rookie over the 4 games that he counts for. So 500 + 80 = 580

Daicos should score about 110PPG for the first 3 rounds but then has the Finn tag in rnd 4 where he could score a 70 then he has the bye where the 19th player comes on the field for him who I'd think would score a 60 or so. Total pts would be around 460.

Even if Daicos has a couple of 140's and Young has a couple of 80's there's still no let loss but with the added bonus of having William's score over a rookie's scores for 3 of those early byes