yeah but whats the got to do with port?
We offered what we though was a fair deal under the circumstances.
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We offered what we though was a fair deal under the circumstances.
we didnt induce s**t. He signalled he wanted out before we approached him.
You offered what you could get away with and if you win the flag this year on the back of his inclusion it'll be daylight robbery.
Good thing the AFL blocked the Sydney trade access or we would've got nothing.
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I detest Port, I did feel sorry for them up until Kochie came along ... living in SA probably makes it worse.
Agree though, have all the time in the world for Gussie, Ryder can get stuffed.
Agree though, have all the time in the world for Gussie, Ryder can get stuffed.
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He was contracted to Essendon. You guys sold him a few promises and stood firm on a substandard deal.
Paddy left for personal reasons and used this saga as an excuse. Your club also played that card.
As has been stated it is probably a foolish move for a small club like Port to kick a club of Essendons size when it was down.
i would say that essendon fans had unrealistic expectations regarding the deal.
I think il bit my tongue and leave you guys to it. Good luck for the year
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Bullshit.
Its well known that ALL clubs talking to him (GWS/Sydney/Brisbane as well) were keen to have him explore the ooga booga clause as an inducement to Essendon to release him.
No you refused to offer parity for a contracted player because you knew the public would heap pressure on Essendon due to the current circumstances.
If anything you should pay overs for a contracted player.
I'm still spewing the club didn't stand firm and retire him for two years.
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I think all Essendon supporters in this thread need to build a bridge.
and we ended up giving you our first and second rounders. The best we had to offer. No ooga booga clause
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And it wasn't enough.
Eventually the club yielded due to PR concerns and released him.
Cooler heads than mine prevailed, because had it been me I would have made the prick try his luck triggering that clause.
You guys rate a unique ruckman coming into his prime as the key to winning a flag on one hand but on the other thought pick 19 would be enough.
Let's be honest here, if Paddy went to the right club he would be of greater value to a side than Beams would be.
That said I don't think he did go to the right club. Much to my frustration when he was here he isn't mentally capable of turning his physical talents into being the forward you would expect. He gets bored there. In my eyes he should be second behind only Buddy as a forward when you put his pace, leap, marking, kicking and ability below his knees together.
At Port either Paddy will be wasted up forward or you trade Lobbe. Trading Lobbe would be the smart move because you'd have unbelievable run through the middle.
Paddy was valuable to Essendon because he was our pace in the middle. With our big bodied but slow midfielders it important.
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I am not as upset now since we got Langford.
But Ryder was easily worth a first round pick and a first 22 player
But Ryder was easily worth a first round pick and a first 22 player
eth-dog
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Which we did get?
we wont be trading lobbe. Especially seeing what sandilands did to us on the weekend.
I am aware that he works best when hes the number 1 ruck. But thats part of the challenge for us. I am hoping for a cox/natnui relationship in terms of time forward and in the ruck
No doubt. But obviously his value decreased at the very possible chance of him being banned. Thankfully sense prevailed and ASADA had nothing. It could very well of backfired for Port. But yes since the non guilty verdict Port paid unders.
Rubbish. You didn't have a lot of draft picks to offer but that is why you have to give up a player.
Port fans don't seem to realise it but Essendon are as close to striking as they are. The difference being we've operated under the fallout of our supplement program and some injuries to key players. All the while Port have had a dream run with injuries.
The fitness and confidence that comes from consistently training and playing can evaporate quickly if you guys have an injury run that nearly every other top 8 side from last year had to deal with.
So you guys come and take one of our stars and offered pick 19 in return. The only reason we get something out of this is because Carlton are a bunch of fools and Bulldogs were going for full rebuild.
Very disappointed to lose Paddy - but I reckon you're being a bit harsh on the bloke. After what the club has put the players through, do you expect the players to put the interests of the club before their own personal interests?
I will always support the EFC, but the way the club has treated the players is a disgrace - only the loyalty to each other will keep this playing group together. If Paddy didn't feel the love for and from the playing group for whatever reason, then it's a far better thing that he plays somewhere else - and I say good luck to him, and I hope he gets nothing other than respect and support from the Essendon faithful.
We wronged you Paddy, I hope you can forgive us.
Oh, and your player agent is a total campaigner.
Don't expect me to forgive that prick.
I will always support the EFC, but the way the club has treated the players is a disgrace - only the loyalty to each other will keep this playing group together. If Paddy didn't feel the love for and from the playing group for whatever reason, then it's a far better thing that he plays somewhere else - and I say good luck to him, and I hope he gets nothing other than respect and support from the Essendon faithful.
We wronged you Paddy, I hope you can forgive us.
Oh, and your player agent is a total campaigner.
Don't expect me to forgive that prick.
But that was your issue. We weren't considering that in our evaluation.
No doubt. But if clubs that wanted him were considering that and Ryder wanted to leave then Essendon were at a disadvantage. Was hard to ignore the fact that the guy could have been banned for a significant amount of time. It simply lowered his value.
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Yes but we did. It would have been stupid for us not to
eth-dog
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We're 2 years behind Port. We also took pick 17, not 19.
