Autopsy AFL 2023 Round 5 Gather Round - Dockers v Suns Fri April 14th 5:10pm AEST (Norwood)

Who will win and by how much?

  • Dockers by a goal or less

    Votes: 4 9.8%
  • Suns by a goal or less

    Votes: 2 4.9%
  • Dockers by 7 - 20

    Votes: 14 34.1%
  • Suns by 7 - 20

    Votes: 9 22.0%
  • Dockers by a lot

    Votes: 4 9.8%
  • Suns by a lot

    Votes: 6 14.6%
  • Draw

    Votes: 2 4.9%

  • Total voters
    41
  • Poll closed .

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Suns need a friend in the AFL like the Dockers have (Garlick is mates with Gil
Wasn't expecting to win after Suns in front 61-38 at half time.

Not sure why was I under the impression Suns were doing any good so far this season? Just saw the ladder, won 1 game from 5.
And then the umpire lead comeback come strong
 

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What are you talking about?
Under his watch freo had 5 in the 22u22 squad last year.
A 22 yr old MVP
A rising star winner
He took a btm 6 age ave team to the second week of the finals
If your going to s**t on us maybe just stick to the no fwd line, fyfes cooked, overpaid for Jackson stuff.
Jackson isn’t overpaid. He will be a gun if you use him correctly.
 
I actually rate Dew but it’s getting harder and harder to defend him. They don’t have enough A graders.
Remember when the suns and giants started off? So many people said they’d have X amount of flags between them within a decade. One GF appearance between them in about 13 years. And with that, the suns haven’t made finals once.

Dew is their third coach and his sacking is being discussed with most likely no finals again.

Club is going nowhere.
 
Remember when the suns and giants started off? So many people said they’d have X amount of flags between them within a decade. One GF appearance between them in about 13 years. And with that, the suns haven’t made finals once.

Dew is their third coach and his sacking is being discussed with most likely no finals again.

Club is going nowhere.

Think about what their list would be if they had even just a normal amount of list turnover.

I think their list is missing 1 A grader in each area of the ground.

So realistically May, Lynch/rankine and Prestia (can’t remember if they’ve lost any other really good miss).

You can’t compete constantly having to replace top quality talent with a mixture of youth and C grade rejects.
 

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Think about what their list would be if they had even just a normal amount of list turnover.

I think their list is missing 1 A grader in each area of the ground.

So realistically May, Lynch/rankine and Prestia (can’t remember if they’ve lost any other really good miss).

You can’t compete constantly having to replace top quality talent with a mixture of youth and C grade rejects.
They’ve got;

Rowell
Anderson
King
Miller
Lukosius
Collins
Ainsworth
Andrew
Fiorini

All high quality talent. The issue is you’re expecting kids to be stepping up so quickly and take on huge responsibility. May and Lynch at the peak of their careers really hurt them. They’ve just got no senior support that wants to stay because once they spend 5 years there they want out due to no success on the horizon.

Clearly it’s a coaching and developmental issue. Ross Lyon can walk into St Kilda and have them 4-0. What the hell is happening at the Suns?
 
They’ve got;

Rowell
Anderson
King
Miller
Lukosius
Collins
Ainsworth
Andrew
Fiorini

All high quality talent. The issue is you’re expecting kids to be stepping up so quickly and take on huge responsibility. May and Lynch at the peak of their careers really hurt them. They’ve just got no senior support that wants to stay because once they spend 5 years there they want out due to no success on the horizon.

Clearly it’s a coaching and developmental issue. Ross Lyon can walk into St Kilda and have them 4-0. What the hell is happening at the Suns?

They need A grade senior core which is what they’re missing
 
Poach Simmo/Dimma?

Failing that, the best case scenario is probably something like a Hinkley/Yze combo.

Really they need a big leader who can get out the ego's and stop the choking with a hungry assistant who's a good tactican/developer on side. But other than a hail mary on Hardwick, who is that guy?

St Kilda going so early on Ratten hurts but I do think they went too premature on Dew. Although I think the idea of sacking him for Lyon in 2022 reeks of hindsight bias, they would've been mocked hard if they did so back then. Clarko o/c another story but was he that keen?

You're assuming that Ross Lyon would have wanted to go to the Gold Coast to coach them.

Maybe if they offered him a boatload of cash he might have but the Suns aren't really an attractive proposition with so few supporters and playing home games in front of a mostly empty stadium. That's probably why so far they have had untried coaches apart from Eade who was over the hill as a coach.
 
Will Brodie cmon longmuir he has to play was huge! One of the top clearance players 16 possesions top 5 inside 50 and all in 48 percent time playing.
 
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