Afl only put $40000 thousand dollar per year to local football via Tac cup team handout $1000 year

[topdog69]

The Afl give the local Tac Cup team $40,000 a year and only pass on $1000 a year to each club to run their footy teams. However, The junior players come from local football clubs to play in the Tac Cup and require an excess off $800000 a year in order to compete in competition. In order for them the local clubs to ensure they can compete they need to run a number of fund raising activities like Sausage sizzles at various hardware stores at Bunning and Master. Where as the Afl poured in excess of $400million dollars to setup two new teams that they bought into the Afl competition in the last 5 years. The AFl have neglected the junior football club all over the country.This is biggreason why not many junior footballers are not getting drafted from the Tac Cup. In addition the umpiring state is poor, as well. The Afl need to pour money into all local club s around the country.

There is current talk amongst the Afl community to provide clubs back a zone in their area. Before doing so, they need to fix particular areas especially the Western Jets. The western jets need to bring in more natural footballers to their club rather then have athletes being picked by Danny Sexton who run the program. In my view, Danny Sexton needs to be replaced - I have spoken to coaches in the Wrfl they are not happy that some of the juniors, who are more talented and play amazing football are not being picked up by the Western Jets. They deserve chance at Tac Cup level if you look at stats of theTac Cup Player draftes by other club like the Falcons and Canons you would see their major problem for Western Jets.

 

[dergert]

Come again?

 

[GreatSouthWest]

A worthy topic Topdog, however there are many assumptions, opinions and 'fact's that I doubt. Can you reference where your various point come from?

There I one glaringly incorrect statement - The AFl have neglected the junior football club all over the country.This is biggreason why not many junior footballers are not getting drafted from the Tac Cup

This is simply incorrect. http://www.aflvic.com.au/draft-success-tac-cup/. 2014 draft saw almost 60% come from the TAC Cup. This would likely reflect previous years.

 

[topdog69]

A worthy topic Topdog, however there are many assumptions, opinions and 'fact's that I doubt. Can you reference where your various point come from?

There I one glaringly incorrect statement - The AFl have neglected the junior football club all over the country.This is biggreason why not many junior footballers are not getting drafted from the Tac Cup

This is simply incorrect. http://www.aflvic.com.au/draft-success-tac-cup/. 2014 draft saw almost 60% come from the TAC Cup. This would likely reflect previous years.

I have spoken coach in the Wrfl and people that have set up Manor lakes they have told this information and they not happy about it more footballer natural not being pick up by the Western Jets in this year they will be no player from the Jets in the 2015 drafted.

 

[inyourfacedunk]

Did you copy and paste the original post from somewhere else? If so, can you at least give them credit.
Also, a little context before the rant might be useful.

I'm sure what you're saying is important, but I'm finding it hard to care because you went about it like some random dude running up to people and yelling at them on the street with 0 context.

 

[GreatSouthWest]

Last year the Jets had 5 drafted. 4 in the ND and 1 in the rookie. This years crop looks unlikely to have anyone, but in regards to Manor Lakes, you've managed to select a brand new team, geographically out the outskirts of the WRFL, full of very young families/new couples.

Talented juniors are unlikely to play there as they'll be pushed towards stronger clubs from around 10 years old upwards.

 

[topdog69]

Did you copy and paste the original post from somewhere else? If so, can you at least give them credit.
Also, a little context before the rant might be useful.

I'm sure what you're saying is important, but I'm finding it hard to care because you went about it like some random dude running up to people and yelling at them on the street with 0 context.

I have not copy and paste anything I have just spoke to people who set up the Manor lake football and someone from the Brooklyn Football club in the past .

 

[Dav1d]

I've met a few a WRFL players that have gotten trialed by the Western Jets but didn't make it in; that starred at WRFL level
one that played on Port Melbournes development team but was delisted & one that was on an AFL teams rookie list that was also delisted

out of those players they all shared one thing in common; they were all lazy, arrogant and vile people

you can have all of the AFL talent in the world...but if your attitude stinks, then you aren't going to make it far

 

[VitalDread]

is this worth a thread?

 

[topdog69]

is this worth a thread?

I am mentioned it because in the vent we have own zone again it likely we would have Western Jet if it happens in the near future it need to be fix up

 

[VitalDread]

I am mentioned it because in the vent we have own zone again it likely we would have Western Jet if it happens in the near future it need to be fix up

which has been covered in the draft, trade and other threads

 

[dergert]

Can someone give me a bulletpoint on what this is about?

 

[Dav1d]

Can someone give me a bulletpoint on what this is about?

It is about quantum physics

• First he opens with a joke
  
• Next he explains how he discovered his theory
  
• He then demonstrates his theory using formulas & diagrams
  
• Worried that he will be criticized mercilessly for his poor grammar, starts to ramble

Did that help at all?

Sorry topdog

 

[dergert]

It is about quantum physics

• First he opens with a joke
  
• Next he explains how he discovered his theory
  
• He then demonstrates his theory using formulas & diagrams
  
• Worried that he will be criticized mercilessly for his poor grammar, starts to ramble

Did that help at all?

Sorry topdog

Come again?

 

[dogwatch]

Can someone give me a bulletpoint on what this is about?

Until I have better evidence to the contrary I'm prepared to let Topdog run with this and take him at face value. Admittedly the line of argument isn't crystal clear (and living 600km away I have almost zero local knowledge to allow me to judge either way) but as I read the OP these are the issues:

1. AFL funding for TAC clubs is inadequate. Tokenistic, even.
2. Western Jets is managed sub-optimally, especially with regard to its list management/drafting. It has become a chronically weak club.
3. This could all come back to bite us on the bum (and hard) if the AFL reintroduces zones. We'd be much better off if we were aligned with one of the strong TAC clubs. To spell it out even further: if Western Jets are a shambles (and they happen to be our primary feeder club) we could suffer badly in our list building and development.​

Let's give TD the benefit of the doubt for a legitimate OP and thread until someone can demonstrate it's all BS or ill-founded.

Some sensible discussion on it would do it more justice. If it's way off the mark well let's have the arguments that prove it to be so. And some supporting facts.

 

[Doggies7]

Not worth a thread is the place for this.

 

[Sydney Bloods]

Today I learnt that local footy is in serious trouble if it needs $800,000 in funding.

Why doesn't this ever get addressed?
There's an alarming increase in costs that is likely going to push kids out of footy possibly even close clubs down, instead of demanding audits and wanting to know why junior footy needs almost a million dollars a year for a game that Requires no equipment or padding, outside a pair of boots and a jumper. The call is the AFL isn't doing enough to increase funding to cover the ballooning costs.

 

[Doggies1972]

Today I learnt that local footy is in serious trouble if it needs $800,000 in funding.

Why doesn't this ever get addressed?
There's an alarming increase in costs that is likely going to push kids out of footy possibly even close clubs down, instead of demanding audits and wanting to know why junior footy needs almost a million dollars a year for a game that Requires no equipment or padding, outside a pair of boots and a jumper. The call is the AFL isn't doing enough to increase funding to cover the ballooning costs.

Actually the costs are quite exorbitant. Rates, land taxes, insurances, upkeep, power, water,staff etc etc..... down to dunny paper. Its the reason clubs resort to poker machines as a means of revenue.

 

[dergert]

Until I have better evidence to the contrary I'm prepared to let Topdog run with this and take him at face value. Admittedly the line of argument isn't crystal clear (and living 600km away I have almost zero local knowledge to allow me to judge either way) but as I read the OP these are the issues:

1. AFL funding for TAC clubs is inadequate. Tokenistic, even.
2. Western Jets is managed sub-optimally, especially with regard to its list management/drafting. It has become a chronically weak club.
3. This could all come back to bite us on the bum (and hard) if the AFL reintroduces zones. We'd be much better off if we were aligned with one of the strong TAC clubs. To spell it out even further: if Western Jets are a shambles (and they happen to be our primary feeder club) we could suffer badly in our list building and development.​

Let's give TD the benefit of the doubt for a legitimate OP and thread until someone can demonstrate it's all BS or ill-founded.

Some sensible discussion on it would do it more justice. If it's way off the mark well let's have the arguments that prove it to be so. And some supporting facts.

Thank you for the effort you went to.

That really is a concern. I don't know if it's related but back in my junior days I was lucky enough to be invited to some Calder cannons development squads. The first was an under 14s testing day (just running, kicking drills) and to participate it was $200. The second was a 15s squad and it was roughly $500 to participate.
Some friends who went on to play in the under 18s had to pay unmentionable fees. Footy isn't a game anymore.

 

[go you pups]

Danny Sexton or Shane Sexton?

Shane Sexton was the long term regional footy manager of the Jets, don't know what goes on there still though the last 3 years or so

 

[topdog69]

The Afl need to put more money in to junior both men woman competition .They need to reduce payment to the Afl player maximum to $500000 a year per contract or they reduce the money they have spent on the new team in the Afl

 

[go you pups]

The Afl need to put more money in to junior both men woman competition .They need to reduce payment to the Afl player maximum to $500000 a year per contract or they reduce the money they have spent on the new team in the Afl

The only way that happens is if the TV rights deal is massively slashed and the salary cap reduces from 10mill to 5-6mill

The AFL won't appreciate a semi-socialist system where the best players can only earn 500k max, same with the AFLPA. Now you could say it already is a semi-socialist system with the existing salary cap and draft etc, but it's not due to the FIXture benefitting clubs who get attendances and ratings and the northern teams with their academies.

 

[Snake Livermore]

I don't think we will ever go back to zones. Too contentious. But if we do the health of local footy and the western jets will be crucial to our survival. Hawthorns transition to mediocre unsuccessful club to today's juggernaut can be traced to them snagging the most lucrative zone in the whole of Victoria (Melbourne South-East) and keeping it for thirty years.

Even if we don't have zones though, we need a strong local juniors comps in the west to foster interest in the game and hopefully generate more supporters / members for their local AFL team.

 

[Sydney Bloods]

Actually the costs are quite exorbitant. Rates, land taxes, insurances, upkeep, power, water,staff etc etc..... down to dunny paper. Its the reason clubs resort to poker machines as a means of revenue.

We're talking about junior footy, think we're starting to get to the real issue, junior footy should have no costs other then generic admin fee's and renting the grounds from a city council.

Insurances are only a few grand and are covered by the registration fees. There's no need for power water or upkeep as that's what your paying the council for.

There's no way in the world junior footy should be costing hundreds of thousands of dollars per annum. There's no justification for it.

Instead of just rattling things off that shouldn't apply to junior footy demand an audit to find out where that money's going why it's needed and how costs can be brought down, junior footy should not be a funding arms race.

 

[David Schwarz]

Sad that Braybrook is all the way down in the third division.