All things Politics

[DinoSoar]

It is recognised that this is a fraught topic for any number of you posting here. Some of you will have family in Israel or Palestine. Some of you will have connections to either side of the conflict. What you need to understand is that this site has rules governing posting standards and the appropriate way to talk to other posters, and you will abide by them.

How this interacts with this thread is that the following will result in your post being deleted, with a recurrence of the same behaviour resulting in (depending on severity) a threadban for a week and a day off:

• direct labelling of someone as anti-semitic or a terrorist sympathiser for posting that is merely critical of Israel's response over time. Israel has the right to defend themselves from violence, but that does not mean that Israel has carte blanche to attack disproportionately towards people under their care.
• deliberate goading or flippant responses, designed to get people reacting to your posting emotionally.
• abuse.
• attempts to turn this into a Left vs Right shitfight.
• Use the word 'Nazi' in here, you had better be able to justify it in the post you're making and the comparison had better be apt. Godwin's law is in full effect for the purposes of this thread; if you refer to Nazis, you've lost whatever argument you're involved in.
• Any defense of Hamas' actions on the basis of justification. There's no justification for genocide, regardless of whether or not they have the power to do so.

Please recognise that this is a difficult time for all involved, and some level of sensitivity is absolutely required to permit discussion to flow. From time to time, mods will reach out to specific posters and do some welfare checks; we may even give posters who get a bit too involved some days off to give people some time to cool down. This is not a reflection on you as a poster, merely that this is an intense subject.

I get that this is a fairly intense topic about which opinion can diverge rather significantly. If you feel you cannot be respectful in your disagreement with another poster, it is frequently better to refuse to engage than it is to take up the call.

From this point, any poster who finds themselves directly insulting another poster will find themselves receiving a threadban and an infraction, with each subsequent reoccurance resulting in steadily more points added to your account.

It has also become apparent that this needs to be said: just because someone moderates this forum that does not hold them to a different standard of posting than anyone else. All of us were posters first, and we are allowed to hold opinions on this and share them on this forum.

Treat each other with the respect each of you deserve.

Maggie5 Gone Critical Anzacday Jen2310

 

[gouki88]

After the game last night, I was waiting for grand-daughter who is working there. Well after the game there was this couple with a young boy about 12.

He was yelling at the woman, 'come back here', 'what do you thing you are doing', listen to what I say, come back', 'don't you dare walk away from me'. All this after standing for a minute in support of domestic violence. Police approached him then went looking for the woman, most of the surrounding lights were off, was pretty dark. Felt sorry for the young boy who was sitting down with his head in his hands.

Left the ground about 11.45, they were still there.

There’s a lot to improve

 

[JB1975]

NYPD raids some pro-Palestinian students and they find --among other books-- and academic work on the history of terrorism, written by some English boffin.

They then show the book as evidence of student radicalisation.

They are either breathtakingly stupid or...no, they're just breathtakingly stupid.

 

[gouki88]

NYPD raids some pro-Palestinian students and they find --among other books-- and academic work on the history of terrorism, written by some English boffin.

They then show the book as evidence of student radicalisation.

They are either breathtakingly stupid or...no, they're just breathtakingly stupid.

My favourite was the NYPD talking about a bike lock as some indication of a professional criminal element

 

[JB1975]

My favourite was the NYPD talking about a bike lock as some indication of a professional criminal element

NYPD are onto it. Nothing gets by those guys...

 

[manicpie]

I've been watching "The Tattooist of Auschwitz" on Stan. Well worth a look if you like to delve into the world of Genocide.

 

[WalterBlaknWhte]

NYPD raids some pro-Palestinian students and they find --among other books-- and academic work on the history of terrorism, written by some English boffin.

They then show the book as evidence of student radicalisation.

They are either breathtakingly stupid or...no, they're just breathtakingly stupid.

This is complete idiocy


Many years ago, my ex-GF led a review of the hiring practices of NSW police and how it connected to better policing

Her summary feedback: stop recruiting people of such low intelligence

 

[JB1975]

I've been watching "The Tattooist of Auschwitz" on Stan. Well worth a look if you like to delve into the world of Genocide.

Been reading an incredible book on the Holocaust, which talks about the 'Final Solution' as a product of decades of European violence.

Not light reading, I suppose.

Let's be honest, no shortage of options if you want to delve into genocide these days.

 

[JB1975]

This is complete idiocy


Many years ago, my ex-GF led a review of the hiring practices of NSW police and how it connected to better policing

Her summary feedback: stop recruiting people of such low intelligence

Yes, but those NSW guys certainly know how to get paid.

 

[Maggie5]

My favourite was the NYPD talking about a bike lock as some indication of a professional criminal element

I read/saw somewhere that the locks are very similar if not the same as locks used around/by the Uni.

 

[manicpie]

Been reading an incredible book on the Holocaust, which talks about the 'Final Solution' as a product of decades of European violence.

Not light reading, I suppose.

Let's be honest, no shortage of options if you want to delve into genocide these days.

It's absolutely brutal. Sometimes it's good to delve deep into a Countries history to find out why they might be like they are. In no way am I condoning today's atrocity by Israel but you do get an understanding of where they are coming from. The mini series is a true story of a bloke living today in Melbourne. This isn't a good thing to take sides on because it goes way deeper than what any of us understand. As I said before, they only thing this thread is doing, is fueling the fire for the Evil entities that are behind it. Lets fix our own backyard before we try and save the world from the US, who without, we'd be ****ed

 

[JB1975]

It's absolutely brutal. Sometimes it's good to delve deep into a Countries history to find out why they might be like they are. In no way am I condoning today's atrocity by Israel but you do get an understanding of where they are coming from. The mini series is a true story of a bloke living today in Melbourne. This isn't a good thing to take sides on because it goes way deeper than what any of us understand. As I said before, they only thing this thread is doing, is fueling the fire for the Evil entities that are behind it. Lets fix our own backyard before we try and save the world from the US, who without, we'd be ****ed

I think we've covered this terrain.

The US has entered some sort of post-truth democracy-for-dollars with an authoritarian twist, and we're along for the ride. Their madness is hardly irrelevant, especially when you see so many American tendencies mimicked in Australia.

Israel's campaign in Gaza isn't the first symptom of a deeper problem, but it might yet be the worst.

 

[manicpie]

I think we've covered this terrain.

The US has entered some sort of post-truth democracy-for-dollars with an authoritarian twist, and we're along for the ride. Their madness is hardly irrelevant, especially when you see so many American tendencies mimicked in Australia.

Israel's campaign in Gaza isn't the first symptom of a deeper problem, but it might yet be the worst.

Yeah, that's true mate. To be honest, I'm afraid of life without the US but I'm also starting to be afraid of life with them. I think I'll stick to footy

 

[JB1975]

Yeah, that's true mate. To be honest, I'm afraid of life without the US but I'm also starting to be afraid of life with them. I think I'll stick to footy

No need to be afraid. Fear is for when you get a haircut and your regular stylist is on holiday.

 

[manicpie]

No need to be afraid. Fear is for when you get a haircut and your regular stylist is on holiday.

Bro, I'm bald as a badger

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

I've been watching "The Tattooist of Auschwitz" on Stan. Well worth a look if you like to delve into the world of Genocide.

I do, but I don't have Stan. I'm a sucker for Nazis and Genocide.

 

[manicpie]

I do, but I don't have Stan. I'm a sucker for Nazis and Genocide.

This is brilliant Mr.G. It's a mini series of a bloke here in Melbourne. A nice love story attached to it also

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

No need to be afraid. Fear is for when you get a haircut and your regular stylist is on holiday.

I am about to drive 30 km for a haircut and you raise this scenario?!

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

This is brilliant Mr.G. It's a mini series of a bloke here in Melbourne. A nice love story attached to it also

It's made here! I bet the Nazis are not as fear inspiringly ruthless and prolific as they should be.

 

[JB1975]

I am about to drive 30 km for a haircut and you raise this scenario?!

Take it as a warning.

I'm in the habit of interrogating my stylist about her holiday plans, which are too random for my liking.

She's less forthcoming when I ask about her immune system and how prone she might be to a sickie.

 

[JB1975]

This is an insightful video and also a good summary of the lies told by Israel about the events of October 7.

Not distortions, mistakes, or exaggerations, but unabashed lies.

It raises hitherto largely ignored questions around Israel's apparent unpreparedness for an attack they knew was coming, and which they had further intelligence of on the day of the attack itself.

It's also interesting for the way it shows the bizarre willingness of Western media to perpetuate the lies, even --in the case of the New York Times-- in complicity with Israeli intelligence.



At a moment when the democracy of Israel is shutting down an 'unfriendly' news agency, the gathering and proliferation of information seems like a relevant topic.

 

[JB1975]

Couple of high-powered Americans chatting about Israel's failure to control the narrative. Romney notes that they're usually pretty good with PR. What's happening?

Blinken laments social media, that it doesn't give the same 'context' as standard/traditional sources of information.

Both agree that the banning of TikTok will go some way to help the situation.

Democracy is terminal.

 

[JB1975]

And just in case anyone thinks that Netanyahu gives a f*** about the Israeli hostages.

 

[Maggie5]

Not sure I can add to this.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Take it as a warning.

I'm in the habit of interrogating my stylist about her holiday plans, which are too random for my liking.

She's less forthcoming when I ask about her immune system and how prone she might be to a sickie.

I changed my mind and am going Friday. I have no way to contact him. He has now moved to another barber in Knox - 'Modern Cuts'. You may see it as you trail your missus through the mall in your tracky daks and moccasins. My man is more responsive to interrogation, but on 2 occasions I have driven the 38km only to find him absent, forcing my hair to entrust itself to some fresh faced young man who is obviously more proficient with gym equipment than with scissors.

 

[sr36]

I changed my mind and am going Friday. I have no way to contact him. He has now moved to another barber in Knox - 'Modern Cuts'. You may see it as you trail your missus through the mall in your tracky daks and moccasins. My man is more responsive to interrogation, but on 2 occasions I have driven the 38km only to find him absent, forcing my hair to entrust itself to some fresh faced young man who is obviously more proficient with gym equipment than with scissors.

I'm glad I'm bald.

Whole head, except eyebrows with the clippers once a fortnight - done.