Strategy Bevo

[XXX5]

Time for a Deeper look at What Bevo is up to.

Listening to his pre and post Match pressers has been interesting this year.

I have no knock on Bevo but he seems to be struggling a bit.

Thought it was a good time to get some more informed opinions.

 

[DelRe]

I’m not saying he is or he isn’t but there’s no reason to think a coach can’t go in and out of form like a player. That’s why it’s important he has a good team around him to keep him in form like a player. I think this could be a current weakness but I’d be interested in thoughts of others. I’m really keen to see some changes in the coaching department this off season. At a minimim a senior Balme type - I would look at Richardson if he got the flick - and a very good recent retiree or highly rated up and comer (non-Bulldogs) - a Caracella or a Sam Mitchell type.

 

[ossie_21]

Needs to be smarter on game day, when the opposition make changes he doesn’t adapt quick enough or at all to counter it.

 

[SCRAY72]

Team Selection 3 out of 10
Match Ups vs opposition 4 out of 10
Match Day coaching 4 out of 10
Engagement with Media 5 out of 10

To put in perspective in 2015 and 2016 he was scoring minimum 8 out of 10 in these categories most times.

 

[Reptilia]

Helps when you have
Murphy.
Boyd
Morris
Liberatore

We also seriously need some forwards.. do we have one classy mature forward? There is really no one that is in our forward line that has good goal sense. Especially no one in their prime. That's where we are severely lacking.. we get so.many inside 50s for no reward and it hurts us every time.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Supporters need to realise hes not surrounded by good support irrespective of the list or 22. It was understandable at the beginning when he said he wanted to keep it stable and not being in his own crew. Then the Dogs decide to play musical chairs after the 2016 season instead and have just about every area decline and constantly get out coached.

The Dogs in short need to get real, have a review like 2007, Bevo/the club bring new personal around coaching. The rest will sort itself out.

 

[Yojimbo]

Knowing we have limited draft selections this year and that most of them are
already filled I am a little alarmed at how may players from the outside have
had their papers stamped. I also don't like the lack of fan engagement with
all the closed sessions and the secret squirrel crap. I think the Stringer
stuff cut deeper than we were ever told and the Barrett tit for tat is like
a trip back to the schoolyard. I hope Bevo can right the ship, but I am a
little annoyed that no one saw the iceberg coming.

 

[Doggies_13]

I think the loss of Montgomery has been a major factor. Not so much that he was a brilliant assistant or anything like that, but it was clear that he had different ideas to those of bevo. It seems bevo is now surrounded by people who pat him on the back and agree with him. A coach needs differing opinions and questions from time to time and I doubt we have that with our current coaching panel.

 

[Bemoreboyddog]

Yeah we need to do some major moving with our assistant coaches, development team. Let a few go, bring in some new IP from elsewhere. If Kade Simpson hangs them up this year then I’d be getting in his ear.

 

[Next Waiting]

There has been the odd the selection puzzler but by and large I think Bevo is a little frustrated in the the lack of consistency in performance of players and hamstrung by it. That's partly an age and experience thing, partly a cattle thing and probably a decline in some.

However, the biggest blow he has suffered this year is the loss of Picken and a seemingly resurgent Libba - two very experienced and talented been there and done that leaders and players in the midfield and forward line - our two greatest priorities. Moz's loss while significant, hasn't hurt as much as these two IMO.

The Sydney, Adelaide and Pies results look different with Libba and Picken and thus our season. We just haven't been able to cover their loss.

 

[TiAn_]

Libba, Picken, Morris & Adams going down long term in/before Rd 1 (and Redpath subsequently) was probably season over for us as a real threat, in hindsight.

I think he’s experimenting with the team on the fly this year and trying some different approaches (e.g. playing tall and more skillful/less contested sides, etc). On Friday night we played with a legitimate spine and only 3 recognized inside mids, which is a huge contrast to 2016.

I’ll be keen to see some improvement and more consistency in the second half of the season, as he settles on a structure. I want to see the framework of what 2019 will look like.

I agree with the posters suggesting changes to the assistants and support staff. Some fresh ideas and perspective on the list would be good.

 

[brmi]

Helps when you have
Murphy.
Boyd
Morris
Liberatore

We also seriously need some forwards.. do we have one classy mature forward? There is really no one that is in our forward line that has good goal sense. Especially no one in their prime. That's where we are severely lacking.. we get so.many inside 50s for no reward and it hurts us every time.

We traded the one forward we had with goal sense last year for peanuts. No matter which way it's been sugar coated, it's going to be a decision that will hurt us for a long time coming.

 

[jdz101]

Doesn't have the cattle this year or the next two years. After that, once he has a deep, talented, but still youthful list of footballers to pick a team from, his plan will be executed far better and be much clearer to see.

Over to you list management to keep this group together and add more top line talent through the draft.

 

[Freshwater]

Libba, Picken, Morris & Adams going down long term in/before Rd 1 (and Redpath subsequently) was probably season over for us as a real threat, in hindsight.

I think he’s experimenting with the team on the fly this year and trying some different approaches (e.g. playing tall and more skillful/less contested sides, etc). On Friday night we played with a legitimate spine and only 3 recognized inside mids, which is a huge contrast to 2016.

I’ll be keen to see some improvement and more consistency in the second half of the season, as he settles on a structure. I want to see the framework of what 2019 will look like.

I agree with the posters suggesting changes to the assistants and support staff. Some fresh ideas and perspective on the list would be good.

Picken looked cooked last year. And the way he got himself hurt this year was a weird lack of awareness. Moz is great but nearly done. Libba and Adams hurt but Adams isn’t dependable. I thought it was strange to jettison Crameri when he could have been an experienced back up? They rolled the dice with not many experienced players on the list and more than half got injured. Add dropping Wallis when he gives 100% always and a captain( who I admired greatly) walking about limp wristed (literally) doesn’t give confidence to us supporters.

 

[DelRe]

If Bev is 100% committed I would make sure he’s signed to end of 2021 (3 more seasons) (that’s if he’s not already). Just think a coach that’s won one is more likely to win another than a new coach getting their first so let’s build around a Bev era (I know he’s been quoted as saying he sees a natural limit to his timeline hence the opening line).

Like above I’d want the best team around him. One additional point on that is to tailor the staff to our actual list.

Just one example but right now if the team is going to be successful again I’d say it would be on the back of English Boyd and Schache being the successes. In other words we’re largely pinning our hopes on these guys so why not have a specialist assistant focused on their development (as well as maximizing output of the other talls) rather than just the standard must have a fwd mid back coach etc. I like the idea of someone like a Petrie - currently assistant at WCE so I assume must be OK plus would offer some good marking, leading pinch hit rucking guidance.

Counter to what I said earlier but also wonder whether Boyd back to marshall the backline would be good? Had a year at another club and would have good chemistry with Bev and Wood and would be good for Richards and Williams.

 

[TiAn_]

Picken looked cooked last year. And the way he got himself hurt this year was a weird lack of awareness. Moz is great but nearly done. Libba and Adams hurt but Adams isn’t dependable. I thought it was strange to jettison Crameri when he could have been an experienced back up? They rolled the dice with not many experienced players on the list and more than half got injured. Add dropping Wallis when he gives 100% always and a captain( who I admired greatly) walking about limp wristed (literally) doesn’t give confidence to us supporters.

Picken lead our goal kicking. Obviously wasn’t as good as 2016, but I think “cooked” is an overstatement. Getting another solid year out of Picken would have factored into the Crameri decision. I wouldn’t have been a fan of playing both Picken and Crameri, so I’m not fussed Crameri was let go.

All of those four would have been best 22 all pre-season and all were lost in short succession as the season started. Adjustments were made on the fly, Trengove & Roughead went down, others went down. English & Gowers emerged. A few different things have been and are being tried and some just haven’t worked.

 

[Bont2Bruce]

Doesn't have the cattle this year or the next two years. After that, once he has a deep, talented, but still youthful list of footballers to pick a team from, his plan will be executed far better and be much clearer to see.

Over to you list management to keep this group together and add more top line talent through the draft.

Bevo clearly wants to have a flexible game plan. Over the pre-season he tried to develop several players in new roles as part of this.

But the reality is we don't have many players in 2018 who are available and in form and many of the players we are using are only capable of being OK at one position, let alone being good at two positions.

 

[jdz101]

Bevo clearly wants to have a flexible game plan. Over the pre-season he tried to develop several players in new roles as part of this.

But the reality is we don't have many players in 2018 who are available and in form and many of the players we are using are only capable of being OK at one position, let alone being good at two positions.

We will have guns with that flexibility. It will just take time for young guys to develop, a couple more guns through the draft, and some luck on the injury front. I see another 24 months of awkward inconsistency and sloppy football until another 2015 style breakout.

 

[SonOfScray]

15/16 was the honeymoon period. A bloody good one.
17/18 is back to the grind......just one ******* miserable, soul crushing day in a s**t job, pissing in the wind, after another, with brief moments of reprieve,beating Essendon, laughing at people struggling marginally more.

Needs a little project to sharpen focus. Get some good vibes going and reframe things.

 

[ScragCity]

I want to see Beveridge tar and feathered for what he has done to our great club.

 

[dergert]

I just wonder if we played our list to our strengths how much better we'd be?

I'm happy to give him until the end of next year to see what his plans are and if our players can adapt. I just hope we don't burn our list like other clubs have, trying to search for that flexible game style.

 

[Hard Ball Get]

Looking at the players we have to pick from every week, he's doing a bloody fine job.

 

[dergert]

Additionally I think its time to settle on a line up and stop chopping and changing the ins. Let's get settled.

 

[Testekill]

We don't have very much left player wise but I absolutely support a cleanout of our assistant coaching staff and getting in someone like Balme who is very intelligent tactics wise.

 

[immortalmike]

I’m not saying he is or he isn’t but there’s no reason to think a coach can’t go in and out of form like a player. That’s why it’s important he has a good team around him to keep him in form like a player. I think this could be a current weakness but I’d be interested in thoughts of others. I’m really keen to see some changes in the coaching department this off season. At a minimim a senior Balme type - I would look at Richardson if he got the flick - and a very good recent retiree or highly rated up and comer (non-Bulldogs) - a Caracella or a Sam Mitchell type.

Think it was pretty clear we needed a total and independent review of the football department at the end of last year and were too insular to do it.

How on Earth we proceeded through the offseason without making even one assistant coaching appointment, despite at least having one to two less than most clubs is baffling. And with the rogues gallery we currently have I struggle to believe they are all the best candidates for their current position.

Instead we replaced the one bloke who was still doing his job at an elite level apparently to appease one that wasn't.

I think we lack leadership across the board.