List Mgmt. Blair Hartley Project - 2014 - 5 list spaces confirmed

[SplintWhisky]

I think we need to chase a proper leader who has seen success at another club. I think we still need a proper senior experienced head in the midfield to help cotchin shoulder the leadership responsibilities.

 

[SplintWhisky]

We also need pace and to be honest I would throw a few things around to get gary rohan

 

[CHIMP MAGNET]

We also need pace and to be honest I would throw a few things around to get gary rohan

drugs?

 

[guruisatiger]

drugs?

nah leave that to hirdy and his mexican mates

 

[Calcium Man]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-13/player-focus-dal-santo-delivers

I this shows what a finals experienced player can do for a side.

Ryan O'Keefe, Brad Sewell, Montagna any of these players please come on down. Or maybe the cats will realise its time for a rebuild/mini rebuild and could attract Jimmy Bartel?

 

[Joker91]

Ryan O'Keefe, Brad Sewell, Montagna any of these players please come on down. Or maybe the cats will realise its time for a rebuild/mini rebuild and could attract Jimmy Bartel?

Montagna is the only one that interests me .

 

[Heisenberg_]

Montagna is the only one that interests me .

Same it's one thing getting a player with finals experience, it's another thing getting a has been with finals experience.

 

[CHIMP MAGNET]

31 yr old sub 180cm winger?

sounds like a has been

nontagna

 

[TheTigerArmy]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-13/player-focus-dal-santo-delivers

I this shows what a finals experienced player can do for a side. Sewell and Montagna i would look at ...

Ryan O'Keefe, Brad Sewell, Montagna any of these players please come on down. Or maybe the cats will realise its time for a rebuild/mini rebuild and could attract Jimmy Bartel?

 

[Mr Magic]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-13/player-focus-dal-santo-delivers

I this shows what a finals experienced player can do for a side.

Ryan O'Keefe, Brad Sewell, Montagna any of these players please come on down. Or maybe the cats will realise its time for a rebuild/mini rebuild and could attract Jimmy Bartel?

Dal Santo is better than Sewell and O'keefe in terms of age and output now definitely.

Montagna is too old anyway.


A little birdy told me there is discontent amongst the Swans about Buddy's money. We might just need to be patient for a few years before some fly the coup!

 

[Calcium Man]

 

[DontArgue4]

Interesting, i can see carlton being really aggressive

 

[A Tiger 4 lyf]

should chase Devon Smith from GWS

 

[SplintWhisky]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-09-13/player-focus-dal-santo-delivers

I this shows what a finals experienced player can do for a side.

Ryan O'Keefe, Brad Sewell, Montagna any of these players please come on down. Or maybe the cats will realise its time for a rebuild/mini rebuild and could attract Jimmy Bartel?

If we could get bartel i would be so ******* happy. i dont see it happening but i can dream

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

We also need pace and to be honest I would throw a few things around to get gary rohan

We have enough in our side who make a Gary Rohan an art form,No need to add another Gary Rohan expert.

 

[tigs2010]

People realise that other teams got these experienced guys for nothing but cap space. Montagna and Bartel would cost us in a trade too.

 

[Tigerbob]

People realise that other teams got these experienced guys for nothing but cap space. Montagna and Bartel would cost us in a trade too.

Realise that but gotta weigh up what's best for us.

I definitely think Montagna is gettable and not for a huge amount. I know Pelchen and his ideals would be to get a new crew in. No harm in asking the question and selling the dream to him. Goddard, Chapman and Dal Santo have shown what valuable assets they are. Sure they were for free but I'm not concerned of paying a premium for an improvement.

That's what it's all about.

We need significant improvement into us our we will just continue to be a mediocre side. We can either get that by heading to the draft, trading for established players or a bit of both.

I like the combination myself.

If we can get a Shiel or Mitchell for our first then you'd do it.

Montagna maybe we downgrade our second round pick for a third and Montagna. I don't know I'm just suggesting options to get us to win a flag.

I hope the club do not think we are close to a flag and it will naturally happen. We took a step up to be a finals contention team. The gap between this and a flag contender is just as big.

So what do we do?

 

[tigs2010]

Realise that but gotta weigh up what's best for us.

I definitely think Montagna is gettable and not for a huge amount. I know Pelchen and his ideals would be to get a new crew in. No harm in asking the question and selling the dream to him. Goddard, Chapman and Dal Santo have shown what valuable assets they are. Sure they were for free but I'm not concerned of paying a premium for an improvement.

That's what it's all about.

We need significant improvement into us our we will just continue to be a mediocre side. We can either get that by heading to the draft, trading for established players or a bit of both.

I like the combination myself.

If we can get a Shiel or Mitchell for our first then you'd do it.

Montagna maybe we downgrade our second round pick for a third and Montagna. I don't know I'm just suggesting options to get us to win a flag.

I hope the club do not think we are close to a flag and it will naturally happen. We took a step up to be a finals contention team. The gap between this and a flag contender is just as big.

So what do we do?

If they were willing to do it for a downgraded pick I'd be happy with it. If it costs us a 2nd round pick straight out then it's not worth it. He could give us 3 years or he could completely break down in the first few months.

I reckon we would be better off waiting till next year and targeting a Geelong guy like Bartel or Mackie, or even Montagna, purely because I think they'd ask for a second rounder at a minimum.

 

[Mr Magic]

If they were willing to do it for a downgraded pick I'd be happy with it. If it costs us a 2nd round pick straight out then it's not worth it. He could give us 3 years or he could completely break down in the first few months.

I reckon we would be better off waiting till next year and targeting a Geelong guy like Bartel or Mackie, or even Montagna, purely because I think they'd ask for a second rounder at a minimum.

Bartel could retire end of 2015, he is really starting to slow down sadly!

 

[tigs2010]

Bartel could retire end of 2015, he is really starting to slow down sadly!

Exactly, so no need to trade for him now. Make a call when he's free whether he's still got something left.

 

[Tigerbob]

If they were willing to do it for a downgraded pick I'd be happy with it. If it costs us a 2nd round pick straight out then it's not worth it. He could give us 3 years or he could completely break down in the first few months.

I reckon we would be better off waiting till next year and targeting a Geelong guy like Bartel or Mackie, or even Montagna, purely because I think they'd ask for a second rounder at a minimum.

Of course it all comes down to cost.

I know their fans want a second but there is a lot they could do with his salary getting off their books and sure up some of their better kids etc. So maybe a third or a swap of our second for their third could be an option.

I think Montagna will give his elite performances for another 80 - 100 games. Especially with us, he won't be tagged as hard and we can manage him well. He had an injury interrupted year this year and finished 4th in their best and fairest but was leading before he had some troubles.

Are we that close to challenge for a flag that getting in an experienced, elite finals player could give us a step up we need?

I think Joey would be so beneficial for Ellis.

Like I think another pure midfielder in Shiel or Mitchell would be good for Miles, Vlastuin and Cotchin. These types would give us more confidence to have Deledio and Martin as forwards.

I don't want to just make the finals and not get anywhere. I also think our list as it is now isn't a top 4 list. Analyzing the top 5 sides this year we are not in the ball game. Not that far, but not there.

Mitchell and Montagna with a few young kids and another ruckman would be considerable in my opinion.

 

[Stylo]

Given the choice, who's better, Shiel or Mitchell?

 

[tigs2010]

Of course it all comes down to cost.

I know their fans want a second but there is a lot they could do with his salary getting off their books and sure up some of their better kids etc. So maybe a third or a swap of our second for their third could be an option.

I think Montagna will give his elite performances for another 80 - 100 games. Especially with us, he won't be tagged as hard and we can manage him well. He had an injury interrupted year this year and finished 4th in their best and fairest but was leading before he had some troubles.

Are we that close to challenge for a flag that getting in an experienced, elite finals player could give us a step up we need?

I think Joey would be so beneficial for Ellis.

Like I think another pure midfielder in Shiel or Mitchell would be good for Miles, Vlastuin and Cotchin. These types would give us more confidence to have Deledio and Martin as forwards.

I don't want to just make the finals and not get anywhere. I also think our list as it is now isn't a top 4 list. Analyzing the top 5 sides this year we are not in the ball game. Not that far, but not there.

Mitchell and Montagna with a few young kids and another ruckman would be considerable in my opinion.

For that price I'd pull the trigger. Though I'm not as confident as you are that he will last that much longer. If we get 2-3 good years we will have done well. I'd be making sure we drafted a pacy winger to bring through behind him too.

Would love to get Shiel or Mitchell if we could.

 

[Mr Magic]

Exactly, so no need to trade for him now. Make a call when he's free whether he's still got something left.

Get him as an assistant coach be a better option in a few years!

 

[Tigerbob]

For that price I'd pull the trigger. Though I'm not as confident as you are that he will last that much longer. If we get 2-3 good years we will have done well. I'd be making sure we drafted a pacy winger to bring through behind him too.

Would love to get Shiel or Mitchell if we could.

Shiel or Mitchell are my number one targets. We need more quality pure midfielders into the side to release our guns in Deledio, Martin and Cotchin to float forward and back without worry.

We need big pre seasons from Ellis to get that A grader level and Vlastuin and Conca to get close to that level. Miles keeps tracking how he is.

They are our core midfield group. We need a few more. Inside and outside.

A small forward and a Ruckman is also on the agenda. We can obtain that small forward via the draft. Plenty of quality around. Ruckman is the harder one.