Bluemour Melting Pot XXXII - Reaching fever pitch! 🔥 🔥 🔥

[Bostonian]

And the player exodus begins…

We haven't had one of those for a while.

We've been pick poor for a while so good to replenish the stocks and get some draft capital happening.

 

[DamianBis]

Brander is not delisted yet, nor will he be before the end of the trade period. Unless he delists himself?

He too is a former first-round pick. A straight-ish swap is probably not silly. Assuming he wants to come.

If you don't have a contract on the table it's treated as different than if you refuse to sign a contract.

Brander will automatically become a free agent. SPS will have to go to the draft as we've offered him a contract (assuming our contract we offered him wasn't a bullshit minimum wage offer).

West coast would have to offer brander an AFL median wage contract for him to not become a free agent.

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[carlton_99]

Carlton get 29,36 and Brander
West coast get SPS and 61
Can’t expect to much..

Wed be lucky to get 36 alone for sps and 61. No way that is happening

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Who are you looking at instead???

Well as I say there are numerous factors, including SPS himself, whom whilst I don't neccesarily agree he is a conditional player, I felt he often dropped his bundle too many times when the team was struggling.
Unfortunately, it's probably for the best interest of both club and player that we part ways with SPS.

 

[zeeCFC]

Not fit enough to play as a modern midfielder and didn't show his top range of ability all too often. The rumblings started immediately and he had some very solid patches but both parties are better off moving on.

Still think he has more trade value than Brander, Eagles don't have much else to offer either. I could reconcile:

Samo and 2022 3rd for
Brander and 36

 

[Gointocarlton]

Really sad about SPS. Oozes class. Played out of position and ruined under Teague. Really wanted to see him get a go under another coach.

Too funny, cant kick over a jam tin, slow as a wet week, avoids contact. Teague's gone he should be happy and ready for a fresh start.

 

[I bleed Blue]

Not fussed in the slightest.

Never going to become a good footballer at Carlton. Maybe another club can turn him around.

Maximise the trade and move on.

 

[agro]

Really a factor of poor player development- hopefully the new regime addresses these issues.

I trust Austin can leverage the situation as much as possible

 

[Arr0w]

How is this an exodus? One fringe player has requested a trade, we are getting Hewett and likely Cerra as well.

Exactly

 

[BlueTongue]

Disappointed about SPS but not surprised.

As others have said hopefully Freo are interested.

Wonder if he becomes part of the Cerra trade?

 

[iAsbestos]

Big mistake letting SPS go will do very well in a WA midfield.

 

[Gethelred]

Well as I say there are numerous factors, including SPS himself, whom whilst I don't neccesarily agree he is a conditional player, I felt he often dropped his bundle too many times when the team was struggling.
Unfortunately, it's probably for the best interest of both club and player that we part ways with SPS.

I think that a coach deciding that he'll play young midfielders on the flanks and in the pockets instead of developing them in the positions they were drafted in should bear the brunt of the blame, personally.

 

[gadj1976]

Teague destroyed SPS as a footballer. Square pegs in round holes

He was under-developed way before Teague took over. For a pick 5 to slump to the depths he has over the course of his career, when he's highly talented but not been able to demonstrate it sits with our development in my eyes.

 

[Blues_1864]

And assuming we'd want him. We have enough of our own fringe players.

Brander can football. And if there's one team where there's no shame in not being able to crack the 22 as a tall, it's West Coast.

He's 195 cm, from Bendigo, so probably even ticks the magical "supported Carlton growing up" box. People talk about backup for an ageing Liam Jones: look no further.

I am bummed the Petrevski-Seton wants out. But Jarrod Brander would be a one good way to turjn this sow's ear into a silk purse. If there are steak knives as well, so much the better, but a straight swap would be a decent/fair(ish) outcome. I'd be happy, anyway.

 

[TerryWallet]

It does feel to me that we failed SPS in a way. It is never a 1 way street of course, but it seemed to me that he really loved the club, committed himself professionally, fitted in well with the group.......but it just wasn't working.

At 23, he just wasn't the player that he looked like being. I think between his 18th year hamstring injuries and us failing to develop him better, a huge talent has stagnated.

Not all our fault of course, it's hard to put into words but it just seemed his brain never got over those hammy issues and he couldn't/wouldn't hit the GO button on his pace or kicking over 20 metres. Like his brain wouldn't let him at the last second.

He used to sweep on the ball as a young player and kick it reasonably long on either feet. A distance/damage per disposal player. But at 23 he looked confused and hesitant(not scared).

I hope a change of scenery and a new set of voices can clear his mind and help him succeed. Seems like a good kid.

 

[Metalcrusher]

He was under-developed way before Teague took over. For a pick 5 to slump to the depths he has over the course of his career, when he's highly talented but not been able to demonstrate it sits with our development in my eyes.

And / Or the players motivation and commitment levels ...

 

[jj1978]

He checked out a long time ago, tracking to be Tambling-esque. To be fair don't think he'll improve much moving on anyway as he doesn't have the mental fortitude. But if he does, all the best to him.

 

[zeggie]

And the player exodus begins…

Next thing we know, we'll lose Newnes and Cotts.

Troubling times at Princes Park. Shambles.

 

[gadj1976]

And / Or the players motivation and commitment levels ...

agree! But unfortunately we have a history of under-developing talent at the pointy end of the draft.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Bit flat, but unsurprised.

Samo's gotta do what's best for his career, and on balance that's find a new home somewhere else, and a side with a somewhat aging midfield and a fair draft hand/wantaway tall is a good landing spot.

I think SPS has shown more than Brander, is only 1 year older with around 70 more senior games to his name. A straight swap would appear to favour WC pretty heavily, especially as they're effectively showing Brander the door by not offering him a contract (whether we're doing the same to SPS, I'm not sure).

SPS for Brander and ~29 would be something I could probably accept., maybe a future pick sweetener for WC as well
Flick 6 for Cerra, straight up.
Then package our 25 and 29 to WB for 17 and a future pick/pick swap.

OUT: 6, 25 and SPS
IN: Cerra, Brander, 17 (Wanganeen-Milera is one I think looks good here)
FA: Hewett

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Not surprised with SPS. Doesn't bother me either. We can't get the best out of him it seems.

Now I'll wait and read on here how we need to get 5 first round draft picks and a player for him

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Straight swap for Brander from WC


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[95baggers]

SPS has requested a trade to WCE.

Blues midfielder requests a trade home to WA

He played 94 games with Carlton.

www.sen.com.au

what do we get in return? what’s he worth at this stage?

 

[Blue train 28]

SPS leaving Opens up more cap space for Cerra
Would we look at Luke Dunstanfor depth as a mid ? And cheap

 

[zeggie]

If you don't have a contract on the table it's treated as different than if you refuse to sign a contract.

Brander will automatically become a free agent. SPS will have to go to the draft as we've offered him a contract (assuming our contract we offered him wasn't a bullshit minimum wage offer).

West coast would have to offer brander an AFL median wage contract for him to not become a free agent.

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WCE are not going to let him walk for free. He's a 22yo former pick 13.

They don't have to delist him until after the end of the trade period.

 

[Bostonian]

SPS was one of those players that some fans created a myth around when they were trying to pump him up that speed was one of his best traits. Yet when you watched him play he never displayed any great pace at the AFL level. LOB is in the same boat in that regard.