Vic Daniel Andrews Retires, Undefeated

[Saint]

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[Sttew]

In public housing

If we had enough public housing there wouldn’t be a problem. So what does the state government do? Demolishes a public housing block in Port Melbourne and builds a mixture of private and public housing…

 

[Gralin]

If we had enough public housing there wouldn’t be a problem. So what does the state government do? Demolishes a public housing block in Port Melbourne and builds a mixture of private and public housing…

Neither major party is funding or building public housing.

It's almost like making housing an investment asset created a conflict of interest.

 

[Festerz]

Except the policy is literally about fossil fuels and decreasing our dependence on them.

Yes a good example of evidence based policy. e.g.:

 

[Rob R]

So who buys these houses off the owners / landlords?

Judging by what is happening in the eastern suburbs, foreigners (residing overseas) who can afford the highest costs will buy them and just rent them to foreign students happy to stay 12 to a house.

We need to build more houses, crack down on excessive rent increases, tax airbnb and vacant properties more, cut immigration and ban foreign ownership of residential property or land.

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[Festerz]

cut immigration

The lack of skilled labour is one of the main issues facing the construction sector, especially residential home construction - causing large delays in construction times and skyrocketing construction costs. This was exacerbated by the sharp drop in immigration during the covid years and will take many years to redress.

The current Government's commitment to Increasing targeted immigration has the overwhelming support of business groups and the construction sector:

Navigating the Challenges of Australia's Construction Industry

Overcome Australia's construction industry hiring challenges such as skilled worker shortages, high turnover, safety concerns, and attracting young talent.

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[Rob R]

The lack of skilled labour is one of the main issues facing the construction sector, especially residential home construction - causing large delays in construction times and skyrocketing construction costs. This was exacerbated by the sharp drop in immigration during the covid years and will take many years to redress.

The current Government's commitment to Increasing targeted immigration has the overwhelming support of business groups and the construction sector:

Navigating the Challenges of Australia's Construction Industry

Overcome Australia's construction industry hiring challenges such as skilled worker shortages, high turnover, safety concerns, and attracting young talent.

www.adecco.com.au

We can cut immigration in areas we don't need. Not all of the 300000 plus temporary (many of whom wont leave) and permanent arrivals are skilled. This is only one part of the solution needed but is the easiest and quickest win.

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[The Cryptkeeper]

If public housing is struggling to cope now how is it going to cope with all the renters kicked out of their homes cause we have no landlords ?

Won’t someone think of the poor landlords?

 

[yodellinhank]

Yes a good example of evidence based policy. e.g.:

Doesn't that make perfect sense though? There are more houses.

 

[mcgrath_truther]

I take offence to this post landlords provide a service if there were no landlords where do people who can’t afford to buy live?

i guess ur right, without landlords there would be absolutely 0 houses all throughout australia and the world, right?

 

[Gralin]

Why are we not feeling sorry for landlords today?

 

[Festerz]

Doesn't that make perfect sense though? There are more houses.

Thats the point - smaller household sizes and increased demand for new gas connections means an increasing investment in infrastructure for the production of a damaging fossil fuel at a time when as a state and a nation we are seeking a reduction in greenhouse gases.

Put simply Australia needs to get off natural gas if it is to have any hope of achieving net-zero carbon emissions by 2050.

Banning gas connections in new homes built from 2024 is consistent with Federal climate change commitments and is supported by both the Master Builders Association and the Property Council of Australia, whose national policy director said the ban on gas connections provided certainty to the industry as it moves towards “zero-carbon-ready buildings”.

“Every new building built with gas will need to be retrofitted in the future, so we welcome this move from the Victorian government to avoid investment in new gas network infrastructure and focus on reducing energy bills, and providing cleaner, healthier homes for Victorians,” she said.

 

[Roby]

I take offence to this post landlords provide a service if there were no landlords where do people who can’t afford to buy live?

If landlords believe they're making a positive contribution to society through their practices, it's as distasteful as it sounds. The mere use of the term "lord" should indicate how outdated and inappropriate this feudalistic concept truly is.

 

[Roby]

So who buys these houses off the owners / landlords?

In a hypothetical scenario without landlords, the system of housing would need to be fundamentally different. Options could include increased homeowner occupancy, cooperative housing, or public housing initiatives.

As for who would purchase the properties from the current owners or landlords, it could be the tenants themselves, community housing organizations, the government or a combination thereof.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

Without property investors, housing would be affordable for everyone. You're not helping, you're ******* parasites.

 

[Sttew]

i guess ur right, without landlords there would be absolutely 0 houses all throughout australia and the world, right?

3.25 million rental properties in Australia. That’s not insignificant

And, ATO data shows 2.22 million taxpayers are property investors in Australia, and most have done so either as part of SMSF’s or in addition to super.

 

[Chief]

3.25 million rental properties in Australia.

Houses don't dissolve if they aren't owned by an investor.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

3.25 million rental properties in Australia. That’s not insignificant

And, ATO data shows 2.22 million taxpayers are property investors in Australia, and most have done so either as part of SMSF’s or in addition to super.

Weird hey. We've got more landlords than ever before, yet homelessness keeps rising.

Do you think these things might be linked?

 

[Sttew]

Houses don't dissolve if they aren't owned by an investor.

Agree, but unfair to blame “landlords” for Unaffordability.

Also, you will never have a 100% owner occupied housing market because there will always be people who need to rent for one reason or another

Are Property Investors To Be Blamed For Housing Unaffordability | InvestorKit

“Owning multiple properties is unethical.” A client of ours shared her friend’s opinion towards property investors with me the other day. This makes me realise that there are still people around believing that houses are there only for owner-occupation, and property investors are the “bad guys”...

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[Sttew]

Weird hey. We've got more landlords than ever before, yet homelessness keeps rising.

Do you think these things might be linked?

You tell me. You must have read something on Twitter.

How many migrants moved to Melbourne in the past decade? Why have public housing levels declined in Australia by 12% over the past decade?

 

[mcgrath_truther]

3.25 million rental properties in Australia. That’s not insignificant

And, ATO data shows 2.22 million taxpayers are property investors in Australia, and most have done so either as part of SMSF’s or in addition to super.

yeah have you tried getting a rental property in the past decade though lol, better to move out to the sticks like pakenham or officer (which first home buyers will soon be priced out of) for a chance of owning some shitty flat. i have no patience for landlords because every place i've rented at has been a nightmare because they oversee 10-15 different shitty properties and don't keep them up to quality.

if all the landlords disappeared overnight, what would happen to the australian housing market?

 

[Sttew]

if all the landlords disappeared overnight, what would happen to the australian housing market?

That’s a hypothetical question that will NEVER happen. A bit like asking what if every house was owner occupied

 

[mcgrath_truther]

That’s a hypothetical question that will NEVER happen. A bit like asking what if every house was owner occupied

yeah but i'm interested in your response to the question lol. i can't think of any downside that'd exist if every single landlord disappeared at the start of august

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Agree, but unfair to blame “landlords” for Unaffordability.

Also, you will never have a 100% owner occupied housing market because there will always be people who need to rent for one reason or another

Are Property Investors To Be Blamed For Housing Unaffordability | InvestorKit

“Owning multiple properties is unethical.” A client of ours shared her friend’s opinion towards property investors with me the other day. This makes me realise that there are still people around believing that houses are there only for owner-occupation, and property investors are the “bad guys”...

www.investorkit.com.au

Unfair to blame landlords for unaffordability.

Seriously?

 

[Sttew]

Unfair to blame landlords for unaffordability.

Seriously?

Absolutely. Explain how Australia’s unaffordable house pricing can be laid at the feet of landlords, and not other factors like sustained low interest rates over more than a decade until 2023, tax policies, immigration impact on population, supply and demand etc. This will be good.

And for once, this isn't necessarily a Labor v LNP argument, although you'll try and make it so.

While you’re at, explain why the Andrews government is selling public housing and not replacing it? Public housing is down almost 13% over the past decade.