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AM said:
Well that's clearly nonsense.

The reason cheap shots have become accepted practice is largely due to nuffies in the commentariat allowing cheap shot merchants to get away with weak acts by characterising them as 'part of the game'. And weak umpiring for not penalising those weak acts.They so often escalate and lead to ball players being caught for retaliatory action.

Players read weak umpiring like a book. If they get away with a swift elbow in the guts they'll take advantage of it all day.

The classic illustration of weak umpiring was the Baker/Johnson matter. Before the ball was bounced Baker was sinking the elbows into Johnson, whacking his previously broken hand. No interest in anything else. While that was occurring a gutless umpire was standing 10 metres away and did nothing. His inaction was directly responsible for the matter escalating to the point where Baker finished with a nine week suspension and Johnnson a three week suspension. Would never have got to that point had the umpire asserted control from the get-go.

Jeff Crouch often said umpires set the tone for the day by taking control early in a game. Coaches soon address issues that are costing the team in penalties.

There's nothing courageous in whacking players off the ball. It's the opposite. Courage is putting your head over the pill, something most of the commentariat would have no idea about.
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Seriously??

Steve Johnson is the off the ball hero! Takes more cheap shots than street corner hooker

But then your coach is the original cheap shot king

Your team uses duck duck goose for a training excercise

And your excuse is reading the poor umpiring! Cheating is cheating is cheating, it's just a shame the umpires are ******* morons

Hawkins punched the guy in the face, just because he griped his jumper does not lessen that fact. He should have got a week. Hopefully Karma gets him
 
MagpieJo said:
Seriously??

Steve Johnson is the off the ball hero! Takes more cheap shots than street corner hooker

But then your coach is the original cheap shot king

Your team uses duck duck goose for a training excercise

And your excuse is reading the poor umpiring! Cheating is cheating is cheating, it's just a shame the umpires are ******* morons

Hawkins punched the guy in the face, just because he griped his jumper does not lessen that fact. He should have got a week. Hopefully Karma gets him
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I was going to reply to the arrant nonsense bit by bit. Then I noticed you were from Collingwood so anything rational would be a waste of time.:p
 

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MagpieJo said:
Spot ******* on, and it's a joke
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No, here's the joke (and its sad rather than funny) - we are hours away from the 2nd Semi, and people are still bleating about an incident from the QF that was considered by the MRP and not taken any further. But even if Hawkins had been cited he'd have got nothing more than a reprimand because of his good record. Don't you think its time to move on?????
 
Sttew said:
No, here's the joke (and its sad rather than funny) - we are hours away from the 2nd Semi, and people are still bleating about an incident from the QF that was considered by the MRP and not taken any further. But even if Hawkins had been cited he'd have got nothing more than a reprimand because of his good record. Don't you think its time to move on?????
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The more/longer people complain about an issue (like the issues with the MRP) the more likely it will be investigated. One thread on BF might be only a small amount but over time it will add up
 
KissKiss said:
The more/longer people complain about an issue (like the issues with the MRP) the more likely it will be investigated. One thread on BF might be only a small amount but over time it will add up
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You honestly think the AFL / MRP would take heed of hot air rants on a chat room like BF? You are misguided
 
Sttew said:
You honestly think the AFL / MRP would take heed of hot air rants on a chat room like BF? You are misguided
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Off this thread no chance they would. But discontent over MRP decisions like this does build over time into. Once it breaks into talk back radio it starts to take affect. Do you think that all of the complaints about a certain suspension over a bump didn't influence the appeal this year?
 
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Sttew said:
No, here's the joke (and its sad rather than funny) - we are hours away from the 2nd Semi, and people are still bleating about an incident from the QF that was considered by the MRP and not taken any further. But even if Hawkins had been cited he'd have got nothing more than a reprimand because of his good record. Don't you think its time to move on?????
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If it was a player at another club you'd be pissed off to. But it's your club. And quite frankly, I get sick of seeing several of your players sniping and getting away with it. It's not part of the game. As someone else said, you can do a fair bump, but someone gets hurt, and you get a week off, but punch someone in the face, and if it's finals time, hey it's fine. I was just as pissed off when it was Barry hall doing the sniping. Swans won a flag because he played, and yes, I think he was allowed to play for THAT reason. Without him the AFL affiliated team lose.

It's a bit sad some of your players will end their careers with the sniping part overshadowing some of their brilliant skills. Johnson has great skills, but he's slowing up as Father Time catches up with him, and he lets his frustrations boil over at will. So what we get to remember from the latter part of his career, is off the ball cheap shots, and primary school tantrums. And that's is a shame.
 
KissKiss said:
Off this thread no chance they would. But discontent over MRP decisions like this does build over time into. Once it breaks into talk back radio it starts to take affect. Do you think that all of the complaints about a certain suspension over a bump didn't influence the appeal this year?
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What are you talking about?
 
MagpieJo said:
If it was a player at another club you'd be pissed off to. But it's your club. And quite frankly, I get sick of seeing several of your players sniping and getting away with it. It's not part of the game. As someone else said, you can do a fair bump, but someone gets hurt, and you get a week off, but punch someone in the face, and if it's finals time, hey it's fine. I was just as pissed off when it was Barry hall doing the sniping. Swans won a flag because he played, and yes, I think he was allowed to play for THAT reason. Without him the AFL affiliated team lose.

It's a bit sad some of your players will end their careers with the sniping part overshadowing some of their brilliant skills. Johnson has great skills, but he's slowing up as Father Time catches up with him, and he lets his frustrations boil over at will. So what we get to remember from the latter part of his career, is off the ball cheap shots, and primary school tantrums. And that's is a shame.
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Crikey. Barry Hall's incident was nothing like any incidents this year and it was a long time ago-you really need to let it go and move on.
Stevie's transgressions are mostly trivial and don't even warrant a citing. Its a contact sport after all.
Who gives a stuff what a few embittered pie supporters ( and hawkers of course) remember Stevie for.
I will always remember what a warrior he was in the 2011 GF -on one leg still beat his opponent. Brilliant in 2007. Norm Smith.
The shame doesn't lie with Stevie old thing. ;)
 

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