News Hawthorn Racism Review - No player name speculation - opposition posters tread very carefully

[Strapping Young Lad]

Wrong. Hawks did what they had to do by the rules of the AFL.

Correct. For reference below, once the HFC had the report outlining serious allegations they were duty bound by the AFL’s protocol to hand over the report to the AFL integrity unit.

I will pin this post, as it seems to be a constant query.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Apart from Rioli! The rest are not even average AFL players, looking for a pay day to set up there future! Didn’t like that they weren’t good enough to make it!

Does that mean you’re going to seek a payday from whatever school left you with such shocking grammar skills?

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

Does that mean you’re going to seek a payday from whatever school left you with such shocking grammar skills?

Pull your head out of your butt, before you choke on your own sh it

 

[hawkhamlet]

Not sure how abortion = racism! A shameful act to make that decision for another! ( regardless if it is true or not in this case )

Indeed, there's nothing inherently racial about the statement. But it's a really hardcore thing to say to somebody, and I want to know if he said it.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Pull your head out of your butt, before you choke on your own sh it

How to Use They're, There, and Their

They are among the most commonly confused words.

www.merriam-webster.com

Try learning something.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Indeed, there's nothing inherently racial about the statement. But it's a really hardcore thing to say to somebody, and I want to know if he said it.

The thing is - if the allegations are true or even somewhat true it would show that Indigenous players were potentially treated very differently. If the case was that young Indigenous blokes were having middle aged men encroach in their private lives moreso than other players then there is a possible bias happening there. This isn’t to say that simply the accused are racist - but there is possibly some prejudice playing a part. It might even come from a well-meaning place but at the end of the day if young Indigenous players were the only ones dealing with this kind of involvement from coaches and club management then it’s problematic.

It’s why I’ve had issues with the way this thread is titled and has been reported on - the investigation wasn’t a ‘racism report’ it was an investigation into the experience of Indigenous players at our club based on the statements of a revered club legend.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

How to Use They're, There, and Their

They are among the most commonly confused words.

www.merriam-webster.com

Try learning something.

Since were sharing, something to assist you with your superiority complex


People with this complex often have exaggerated opinions of themselves. They may believe their abilities and achievements surpass those of others.

However, a superiority complex may actually be hiding low self-esteem or a sense of inferiority.

Superiority Complex: Understanding It, Traits, Treatment and More

While superiority complex is not technically a diagnosis, it is one way people choose to deal with feelings of inferiority. Understanding why you or someone else might behave this way and learning better ways to deal with feelings can help.

www.healthline.com

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Since were sharing, something to assist you with your superiority complex


People with this complex often have exaggerated opinions of themselves. They may believe their abilities and achievements surpass those of others.

However, a superiority complex may actually be hiding low self-esteem or a sense of inferiority.

Superiority Complex: Understanding It, Traits, Treatment and More

While superiority complex is not technically a diagnosis, it is one way people choose to deal with feelings of inferiority. Understanding why you or someone else might behave this way and learning better ways to deal with feelings can help.

www.healthline.com

It’s good to know your amateur psychology misfires about as much as your trade/free agent ramblings.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

It’s good to know your amateur psychology misfires about as much as your trade/free agent ramblings.

Thanks for proving my point Ned.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Thanks for proving my point Ned.

Thanks for insinuating that Cyril Rioli conspired with other Indigenous players to make up malicious claims against numerous people because they wanted a payday because they didn’t make much money out of the game. If you’re proud of that kind of input then good for you, I guess.

 

[Yardie]

Next time somebody asks for evidence and you don't have any, that's what you say. Say you don't have any. It's very easy to be honest. Don't engage in personal attacks.

What evidence do you have that it didn't occur?

 

[Hot Cheese Rioli]

Apart from Rioli! The rest are not even average AFL players, looking for a pay day to set up there future! Didn’t like that they weren’t good enough to make it!

I was hoping for a moment that you were joking! That's a shocking take.

 

[Flukey!]

How do you guys have the energy for internet ping pong?

 

[Bugs1977]

If you ignore all the evidence then if course there is no evidence

Now, what do you think of golliwogs?

We’ve definitely found Jeff here haven’t we Bris

 

[threesixpio]

This whole exchange began with my questioning brad sue well's vile attacks on a definitely-guilty Clarko. It sounds like you agree with me that there isn't actually any available evidence to justify that kind of stridency.

And no, a claim by the aggrieved doesn't prove anything. People lie under oath constantly. If you have any real evidence, please show it to us.

Right so you’re saying because some people lie under oath that all recollections of something happening under oath can never be reliable evidence/prove something?

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

I don't know what's true and what isn't.

Most accurate statement I've read so far.

 

[Manila_Hawk]

[The door opens.]
CUSTOMER: Is this the right room for an argument?
MR. BARNARD: I’ve told you once.
CUSTOMER: No you haven’t
MR. BARNARD: [Deliberate] Yes I have.
CUSTOMER: [Confused] When?
MR. BARNARD: Just now.
CUSTOMER: No you didn’t.
MR. BARNARD: Yes I did.
CUSTOMER: [Annoyed] Didn’t.
MR. BARNARD: I did!
CUSTOMER: Didn’t!
MR. BARNARD: I’m telling you I did.
CUSTOMER: You did not!
MR. BARNARD: Oh, sorry, is this a five minute argument or the full half-hour?
CUSTOMER: [Realizing] Oh! Oh, just the five minute one.

 

[Ned Ryerson]

[The door opens.]
CUSTOMER: Is this the right room for an argument?
MR. BARNARD: I’ve told you once.
CUSTOMER: No you haven’t
MR. BARNARD: [Deliberate] Yes I have.
CUSTOMER: [Confused] When?
MR. BARNARD: Just now.
CUSTOMER: No you didn’t.
MR. BARNARD: Yes I did.
CUSTOMER: [Annoyed] Didn’t.
MR. BARNARD: I did!
CUSTOMER: Didn’t!
MR. BARNARD: I’m telling you I did.
CUSTOMER: You did not!
MR. BARNARD: Oh, sorry, is this a five minute argument or the full half-hour?
CUSTOMER: [Realizing] Oh! Oh, just the five minute one.

Not as good as the burglar/encyclopaedia salesman sketch.

 

[moginie]

[The door opens.]
CUSTOMER: Is this the right room for an argument?
MR. BARNARD: I’ve told you once.
CUSTOMER: No you haven’t
MR. BARNARD: [Deliberate] Yes I have.
CUSTOMER: [Confused] When?
MR. BARNARD: Just now.
CUSTOMER: No you didn’t.
MR. BARNARD: Yes I did.
CUSTOMER: [Annoyed] Didn’t.
MR. BARNARD: I did!
CUSTOMER: Didn’t!
MR. BARNARD: I’m telling you I did.
CUSTOMER: You did not!
MR. BARNARD: Oh, sorry, is this a five minute argument or the full half-hour?
CUSTOMER: [Realizing] Oh! Oh, just the five minute one.

I think I prefer the Getting Hit On The Head lessons.

 

[phlogiston]

I think I prefer the Getting Hit On The Head lessons.

No, no, you're not saying it right. It's, "Owwww!"