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I’ve had that problem myself and do not know what to do.
I am thinking that, at least if you know something about Hawthorn’s Under 19s over the years from 1946 to 1991, you could put it in a Word file and email it to me.
Hawthorn Reserves/Box Hill historical stats thread
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I am thinking that, at least if you know something about Hawthorn’s Under 19s over the years from 1946 to 1991, you could put it in a Word file and email it to me.
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Sorry mate, missed your earlier post. I haven't collected any info on the U19s, sorry, so I don't have anything at all to give you there.
In other news, Code problem sorted. We're back in business!!
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1979:
Starting with a 110-point win and finishing with a 117-point loss, the Hawks Reserves of 1979 finished up in 8th place with 9 wins and 13 losses.
Goalkickers:
Best players:
The only new name of note in 1979 was Peter Schwab. He kicked 7 goals over a six week period in the second half of the season and got himself into the best players in round 16. He was consistently in the Reserve's best players through 1980, finally earning a senior debut in round 21, playing the last two rounds. Amazingly, this was enough to win him the Most Improved Player Award for 1980. In 1981 his patchy Reserves form again only bought him 2 senior games late in the year, and in 1982 he improved that to 9 games. In 1983 he finally arrived as a player, playing every game in the Premiership year, and taking out the Most Improved Player Award for the 2nd time. Schwaby played 171 games for the Mighty Hawks, including 6 Grand Finals and 3 winning ones. He tragically missed the 1989 Premiership due to the only suspension of his career. As small consolation he won the 1989 Best Clubman Award. He played in 4 Night Premierships, is a Life Member of the Hawks, and coached the club from 2000 to 2004.
Steve Emery and Robert Polkinghorne had both been at the club since 1976. Emery was a centreman from Yallourn who had played his first senior game in round 22 of 1978. He had a very solid season for the Ressies in 1979, earning him 5 senior games, but it would be his last season at the club. Robert Polkinghorne was the younger brother of David, and finally earned his debut by knocking his brother out of the side in round 8 of 1979. That was his only game until round 20 when he joined his brother in the senior side for the last three rounds. Robert only added one more senior game, in 1980, before leaving the club.
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v St K 22.16 148 5.8 38 Won 110
2 v Coll 17.17 119 30.17 197 Lost -78
3 v Geel 22.21 153 13.18 96 Won 57
4 v Sth 14.16 100 14.18 102 Lost -2
5 v Rich 15.19 109 18.14 122 Lost -13
6 v Carl 15.18 108 16.13 109 Lost -1
7 v Fitz 21.18 144 15.16 106 Won 38
8 v Melb 17.12 114 21.16 142 Lost -28
9 v Ess 10.11 71 13.21 99 Lost -28
10 v Nth 11.18 84 11.14 80 Won 4
11 v Foots 18.16 124 11.16 82 Won 42
12 v St K 17.11 113 10.20 80 Won 33
13 v Coll 11.14 80 19.16 130 Lost -50
14 v Sth 8.14 62 10.14 74 Lost -12
15 v Geel 13.14 92 25.15 165 Lost -73
16 v Rich 8.10 58 12.22 94 Lost -36
17 v Carl 14.16 100 15.15 105 Lost -5
18 v Fitz 27.14 176 15.22 112 Won 64
19 v Melb 13.17 95 9.14 68 Won 27
20 v Ess 8.13 61 7.14 56 Won 5
21 v Nth 10.11 71 24.13 157 Lost -86
22 v Foots 9.10 64 29.7 181 Lost -117Goalkickers:
Code:
Scott, Mark 49
Sherwen, Peter 24
Goad, Alan 17
Dunn, Andrew 15
Wilkinson, Robert 14
Rice, Leon 11
Stevenson, P 11
Turner, Mark 11
Cullen, Des 10
Ayres, Gary 8
Dear, J 8
King, Tony 8
Waters, Tony 8
Mew, Chris 7
Rowlings, Barry 7
Sala, Peter 7
Schwab, Peter 7
Goss, Norm 6
Jones, Bernie 6
McCay, Gary 6
Russo, Peter 6
Welsh, Peter 6
Wilton, Nick 6
Emery, Steve 5
Polkinghorne, Robert 5
Ablett, Kevin 4
Clifford, N 4
Gray, Ross 4
McCarthy, Michael 4
Denton, Billy 3
DiPierdomenico, Robert 3
Hendrie, John 3
Pirrie, Steven 3
Smith, Trevor 3
Lee, Warren 2
Moncrieff, Michael 2
Moore, Terry 2
Quirk, P 2
Wilkinson, Peter 2
Brown, Ian 1
Burne, Nick 1
Clarke, Tony 1
Dunn, Ian 1
Jones, Phil 1
Kennedy, John 1
McFaull, Brendan 1
Murnane, Peter 1
Paton, Ian 1
Petro, ? 1
Tyson, Geoff 1
Code:
Players In best Our BOG
Wilkinson, Robert 11 1
Emery, Steve 10 2
Polkinghorne, Robert 8 1
Ayres, Gary 7 1
Goad, Alan 7 1
King, Tony 7 1
Wilton, Nick 6
Jones, Bernie 5 2
Mew, Chris 5
Turner, Mark 5 2
Ablett, Kevin 4 1
Burne, Nick 4 2
McCarthy, Michael 4 1
Rice, Leon 4
Wilkinson, Peter 4
DiPierdomenico, Robert 3 1
Kennedy, John 3
McCay, Gary 3
McFaull, Brendan 3
Russo, Peter 3 1
Scott, Mark 3 1
Sherwen, Peter 3
Goss, Norm 2 1
Lee, Warren 2 2
McKenzie, Andrew 2
Schwab, Peter 2
Stevenson, P 2
Dear, J 1
Gray, Ross 1 1
Hendrie, John 1
Moncrieff, Michael 1
Murnane, Peter 1
Paton, Ian 1
Rowlings, Barry 1
Smith, Trevor 1
Staehr, Howard 1Steve Emery and Robert Polkinghorne had both been at the club since 1976. Emery was a centreman from Yallourn who had played his first senior game in round 22 of 1978. He had a very solid season for the Ressies in 1979, earning him 5 senior games, but it would be his last season at the club. Robert Polkinghorne was the younger brother of David, and finally earned his debut by knocking his brother out of the side in round 8 of 1979. That was his only game until round 20 when he joined his brother in the senior side for the last three rounds. Robert only added one more senior game, in 1980, before leaving the club.
mianfei
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I’m very curious about this page: it is a real surprise and the data are extremely fascinating. A page on Hawthorn’s Under 19s would complement it very well and I wonder what Hawthorn Football Club annual reports and the like during the 1950s and 1960s would have said about the Under 19s?? Would there have been at least records and match final scores??
I have often thought the poor performance of Hawthorn’s Under 19s, who never made the finals before country zoning in 1969 and I have no evidence they ever got close, was one factor beside the obvious financial one that prevented Hawthorn from maintaining its 1950s improvement during most of the 1960s.
You are right, my mistake, it was Peter though. I know we had a few defect to the bombers then with Bennet, maybe that was the year Bernie Jones and/or Kelvin Steel went across to the dark side.
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Most of the Reserves stuff I pulled out of the newspapers online with the occasional trip to the State Library. In a lot of the years where they reported on Reserves best players and goalkickers, they only gave the U19 scores. Given sufficient time (I don't have it), I'm sure it would be possible to collate every Hawthorn U19 match score, but you'd have bugger-all hope of getting goalkickers or best players complete for many seasons at all.
The online Footy Records would be the best hope actually, now that they're almost all there. But they also only gave scores for the most part.
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1980:
10 wins, 12 losses and 8th place was the lot of the Hawks Reserves in 1980.
Goalkickers:
Best Players:
Terry Wallace had arrived at Hawthorn in 1978 after failing to get a game at Fitzroy. He'd played the entire 1978 season in the seniors, including the Grand Final, taking out the Best First Year Player Award, and had followed that up by playing every game bar one in 1979. For some reason his form dropped away in 1980 and he spent much of the season in the Reserves, and it was pretty much the only season he ever played Reserves footy. He rebounded from this one dodgy season to win the club Best and Fairest in 1981 along with the Most Courageous Player Award which he also won in 1982. He was All Australian in 1982 and 1983, winning the Best and Fairest again in 1983. As well as 1978, he played in the Premiership sides of 1983 and 1986. After the '86 Grand Final, unhappy with his position in the side, he left the club for Richmond (and then the Bulldogs). He'd played 174 games for Hawthorn, as well as the Night Premierships of 1985 and 1986. He is a Life Member of the Hawks, and went on to coach the Bulldogs with some intermittent success before utterly destroying the Richmond Footy Club as coach for five-odd years.
Chris Langford served one hell of an apprenticeship in the Hawks Reserves. Not playing senior footy until round 10 of 1983, it would take him another 3 years after that to become a permanent feature in the Hawks' defence. Langers of course went on to become one of the all-time greats of the game, playing 303 games. He played in 6 Grand Finals, 4 Premierships, was 4-time All Australian, earned State Representation 10 times (winning the E.J.Whitten Medal in 1987 and 1993), played in 4 Night Premierships, won the Most Serviceable Player Award in 1989 and 1995 and the Best Clubman Award in 1992 and 1994 (the year he captained the club). He is a Life Member and Hall of Fame member of the Hawthorn Footy Club, and is named on the bench in the Hawks' Team of the Century and at full back in the Ultimate Premiership Team.
A bloke Langers would have some epic duels with in the years ahead was Gary Ablett. Ablett would become renowned for his lack of interest in training for, and sometimes playing for, the Reserves at Hawthorn. He didn't have a big impact in the Reserves in 1980 or 1981 but kicked 60 Reserves goals in 1982. He made his Hawthorn debut in round 2 after a 3-goal game for the Ressies in round 1, but was dropped after 4 games (for 4 goals). He kicked 7 goals for the Reserves in round 7 and was recalled to the senior side, but was dropped straight after depsite kicking a couple of goals. His next promotion came in round 22, after booting 6 goals in the Reserves. He kicked 3 goals against the Saints, but was dropped for the finals, and walked away from football at the end of the year, returning in 1984 to play for Geelong. He went ok there, but had to watch the Hawks win 4 flags while he couldn't get one, despite his magical efforts in the 1989 Grand Final where he and Langford fought a brilliant duel in the final quarter.
Colin Robertson was a super-quick rover who arrived with good reputation from Tasmania. After a strong Reserves game in round 2 he got his chance in the Hawks lineup, where he stayed for 6 weeks before dropping back to the Reserves where some improved form saw him recalled for a further 5 games. For the best part of the next 5 years he was a regular senior player (winning the Most Improved Player Award in 1981), peaking in late 1983 as he won the Norm Smith as BOG in the Grand Final win. He played in the losing Grand Final of 1984, and the Night premiership of 1985. His form began to faulter in 1985, and he was dropped again during the final series, missing the losing Grand Final but playing in the Reserves Premiership. When he again missed selection for the 1986 Grand Final, he retired from the VFL after 116 games.
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v Rich 15.16 106 19.25 139 Lost -33
2 v St K 17.17 119 11.16 82 Won 37
3 v Coll 17.16 118 16.30 126 Lost -8
4 v Fitz 14.13 97 24.18 162 Lost -65
5 v Geel 19.9 123 29.21 195 Lost -72
6 v Foots 22.11 143 19.17 131 Won 12
7 v Carl 11.16 82 9.23 77 Won 5
8 v Melb 22.22 154 17.19 121 Won 33
9 v Nth 9.12 66 19.18 132 Lost -66
10 v Sth 13.16 94 24.23 167 Lost -73
11 v Ess 13.11 89 24.12 156 Lost -67
12 v Rich 25.22 172 17.20 122 Won 50
13 v St K 13.11 89 6.10 46 Won 43
14 v Fitz 11.24 90 13.13 91 Lost -1
15 v Geel 16.5 101 11.19 85 Won 16
16 v Coll 18.10 118 16.20 116 Won 2
17 v Foots 17.15 117 19.15 129 Lost -12
18 v Carl 14.18 102 13.17 95 Won 7
19 v Melb 20.14 134 16.16 112 Won 22
20 v Nth 18.20 128 28.12 180 Lost -52
21 v Sth 17.10 112 17.16 118 Lost -6
22 v Ess 17.15 117 19.18 132 Lost -15Goalkickers:
Code:
Scott, Mark 29
Schwab, Peter 27
Langford, Chris 21
Ayres, Gary 20
Dunn, Andrew 20
Ablett, Kevin 18
Jones, Bernie 16
Wilton, Nick 17
Mace, Robert 16
Sala, Peter 13
Wallace, Terry 12
Wilkinson, Robert 12
Denton, Billy 10
Ablett, Gary 9
Considine, Paul 8
Martello, Al 7
Robertson, Colin 7
Walter, Richard 7
Bennett, Andrew 6
Turner, Mark 6
Featherston, John 5
Howard, Glenn 5
Moore, Terry 5
Sherwen, Peter 5
Polkinghorne, David 4
Polkinghorne, Robert 4
Cuff, G 3
Cullen, Des 3
Haughton, A 3
McCarthy, Michael 3
Mew, Chris 3
Moncrieff, Michael 3
Barwick, T 2
Cuttriss, K 2
De Wolde, Alle 2
Dear, J 2
DiPierdomenico, Robert 2
King, Tony 2
Lambley, John 2
Maginness, Glen 2
McCay, Gary 2
Murnane, Peter 2
Pollock, Michael 2
Stevenson, P 2
Foster, Dale 1
Housden, P 1
Jacobs, G 1
James, Richard 1
Lee, Scott 1
Paton, Ian 1
Welsh, Peter James 1
Code:
Player In best Our BOG
Schwab, Peter 9 1
Walter, Richard 9
McCarthy, Michael 8 2
Wallace, Terry 8 1
Wilkinson, Robert 8 2
Foster, Dale 6 1
Mace, Robert 6 1
Moore, Terry 5 2
Polkinghorne, David 5
Ablett, Kevin 4
Ayres, Gary 4 1
Dunn, Andrew 4
Jones, Bernie 4 2
Bennett, Andrew 3
Burne, Nick 3 1
Howard, Glenn 3
King, Tony 3 1
Rice, Leon 3 2
Wilton, Nick 3 1
Ablett, Gary 2 1
Amos, Richard 2
Beaton, A 2
Considine, Paul 2
De Wolde, Alle 2
Langford, Chris 2
Mew, Chris 2
Polkinghorne, Robert 2
Robertson, Colin 2
Scott, Mark 2
Buckley, Michael 1
Denton, Billy 1
DiPierdomenico, Robert 1 1
Featherson, John 1
Hendrie, John 1
Martello, Al 1 1
Murnane, Peter 1
Sala, Peter 1 1
Stevenson, P 1
Turner, Mark 1
Welsh, Peter James 1Chris Langford served one hell of an apprenticeship in the Hawks Reserves. Not playing senior footy until round 10 of 1983, it would take him another 3 years after that to become a permanent feature in the Hawks' defence. Langers of course went on to become one of the all-time greats of the game, playing 303 games. He played in 6 Grand Finals, 4 Premierships, was 4-time All Australian, earned State Representation 10 times (winning the E.J.Whitten Medal in 1987 and 1993), played in 4 Night Premierships, won the Most Serviceable Player Award in 1989 and 1995 and the Best Clubman Award in 1992 and 1994 (the year he captained the club). He is a Life Member and Hall of Fame member of the Hawthorn Footy Club, and is named on the bench in the Hawks' Team of the Century and at full back in the Ultimate Premiership Team.
A bloke Langers would have some epic duels with in the years ahead was Gary Ablett. Ablett would become renowned for his lack of interest in training for, and sometimes playing for, the Reserves at Hawthorn. He didn't have a big impact in the Reserves in 1980 or 1981 but kicked 60 Reserves goals in 1982. He made his Hawthorn debut in round 2 after a 3-goal game for the Ressies in round 1, but was dropped after 4 games (for 4 goals). He kicked 7 goals for the Reserves in round 7 and was recalled to the senior side, but was dropped straight after depsite kicking a couple of goals. His next promotion came in round 22, after booting 6 goals in the Reserves. He kicked 3 goals against the Saints, but was dropped for the finals, and walked away from football at the end of the year, returning in 1984 to play for Geelong. He went ok there, but had to watch the Hawks win 4 flags while he couldn't get one, despite his magical efforts in the 1989 Grand Final where he and Langford fought a brilliant duel in the final quarter.
Colin Robertson was a super-quick rover who arrived with good reputation from Tasmania. After a strong Reserves game in round 2 he got his chance in the Hawks lineup, where he stayed for 6 weeks before dropping back to the Reserves where some improved form saw him recalled for a further 5 games. For the best part of the next 5 years he was a regular senior player (winning the Most Improved Player Award in 1981), peaking in late 1983 as he won the Norm Smith as BOG in the Grand Final win. He played in the losing Grand Final of 1984, and the Night premiership of 1985. His form began to faulter in 1985, and he was dropped again during the final series, missing the losing Grand Final but playing in the Reserves Premiership. When he again missed selection for the 1986 Grand Final, he retired from the VFL after 116 games.
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1981:
11 wins and 11 losses was only good enough to land the Hawks Reserves in 8th place of 12 in 1981. It was the third 8th placing in a row.
Goalkickers:
Best Players:
Craig Hoyer was a 196cm ruckman from WA. Named in the best players for the Reserves in rounds 2 and 3, he was awarded with a senior debut in round 4. He was dropped the week after and despite some pretty solid form through the season for the Ressies he didn't get another go for the senior side. It was a similar story in his 2nd and final season, with one early senior game his only promotion despite some good form later for the Reserves. With the retirement of Scott, Paton had assumed the number one ruck position and the Hawks very rarely played a second ruckman in 1982.
The leading goalkicker for the Hawks Reserves in 1981 was Michael Buckley - he never played senior footy. He kicked another 20 goals in 1982.
Rick Davies arrived from SA with a big reputation, but was perhaps a bit past his prime. He was a CHF who could do a bit of ruckwork, and although he was regarded by supporters as something of a flop, he did win the Best First Year Player Award, playing 20 senior games and booting 37 goals. He was dropped mid-season for two Reserves games, and responded well, being named in the best players on both occasions. At season's end he returned to SA.
Rover Richard Loveridge began at Hawthorn in 1981, playing a handful of games for the Ressies. His career took off the following year when he played the whole season in the seniors, winning the Best First Year Player Award. He went on to play 136 games and kick 120 goals. He played in the 1983 and 1986 Premierships as well as 3 Night Premierships. He won the Best Team Player Award in 1985 and the Most Consistent Player Award in 1986. He is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Football Club and needs to remember that at relevant times in his role on the MRP.
Paul Abbott's name first surfaces at Hawthorn in 1981. He wouldn't debut until mid-1984. The perfect pinch-hitter, he could fill in at CHF or CHB, and also took his turn in the ruck. It took him a couple of years of Reserves footy to even get his name appearing in the best players with any regularity, and 3 BOG games in 4 weeks was the catalyst for his senior debut in round 13 of 1984. He only played the 2 games, and 9 the following year. He became a regular in 1986 and played in the Premiership side that year. He was dropped for the last 9 H/A games of 1987 (named in the best players for the Reserves in 8 of them) but was recalled for the entire finals series, no doubt due to his valuable flexibility. He had a terrific 1988 season, playing every game and capping it off with 6 goals in the winning Grand Final. A broken leg mid-way through 1989 halted his career and he never found his form again. Obviously held in high regard, he was awarded the Most Consistent Player Award in 1989, despite only playing the first 10 games. 'Eddie' also played in 4 Night Premierships, and finished up playing a few games for Fitzroy after 85 at Hawthorn.
Dermott Brereton would become one of the most celebrated players in football history. Playing most of the 1981 seaon in the U19s, he kicked one goal in each of rounds 1, 2, 3 and 7 for the Reserves. In 1982 he booted 26 goals for the Ressies, including a bag of 7 in round 22. In the Reserve's Elimination Final he kicked 2, wasn't named in the best, but still was called up to replace Mike Moncrieff in the seniors' First Semi Final, famously kicking 5 goals on debut. Brereton's career would be a glittering one, 5 Day and 5 Night Premierships (tm), 189 games and 427 goals for the Hawks, he won the Club Champion Award in 1985, also leading the club goalkicking that year. He was All Australian 3 times, and won the Hawks' Most Serviceable Player Award in 1987, the Best Team Player in 1989 and the Most Courageous Player in 1991. He was reported 15 times while at Hawthorn, and suspended for 22 weeks. He is a Hawthorn Hall of Fame member and Life Member, and was named at CHF in the Hawks' Team of the Century and Ultimate Premiership Team. Derm made those around him walk taller and is as responsible as anyone for the onfield success Hawthorn enjoyed in its finest era.
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v Melb 14.18 102 18.13 121 Lost -19
2 v Carl 13.23 101 15.8 98 Won 3
3 v Sth 20.20 140 11.11 77 Won 63
4 v Ess 16.11 107 15.13 103 Won 4
5 v Nth 16.18 114 10.20 80 Won 34
6 v Rich 15.17 107 27.20 182 Lost -75
7 v Geel 10.10 70 17.26 128 Lost -58
8 v Fitz 13.13 91 25.17 167 Lost -76
9 v Foots 18.19 127 9.13 67 Won 60
10 v St K 14.11 95 13.8 86 Won 9
11 v Coll 14.18 102 16.16 112 Lost -10
12 v Carl 17.13 115 21.17 143 Lost -28
13 v Sth 12.12 84 15.12 102 Lost -18
14 v Ess 7.11 53 8.12 60 Lost -7
15 v Nth 9.12 66 17.16 118 Lost -52
16 v Rich 11.18 84 20.15 135 Lost -51
17 v Geel 15.9 99 12.12 84 Won 15
18 v Fitz 13.14 92 15.19 109 Lost -17
19 v Foots 12.23 95 8.10 58 Won 37
20 v St K 13.25 103 10.9 69 Won 34
21 v Coll 16.13 109 14.19 103 Won 6
22 v Melb 16.21 117 9.13 67 Won 50Goalkickers:
Code:
Buckley, Michael 27
Wade, Scott 25
Hoyer, Craig 22
Hendrie, John 17
Mace, Robert 17
Waters, Tony 15
Moncrieff, Michael 13
Wilkinson, Robert 11
Halbert, Gary 10
Murnane, Peter 10
Featherston, Stephen 9
Considine, Paul 8
Peters, Terry 8
Schwab, Peter 8
Turner, Mark 8
Abbott, Paul 7
Jones, Bernie 7
Veljkovic, Craig 7
Howard, Glenn 6
Clarke, Tony 5
Ferguson, R 5
Goss, Norm 5
Brereton, Dermott 4
De Wolde, Alle 4
Foster, Dale 4
Kershaw, Kim 4
Ayres, Gary 3
Dunn, Andrew 3
Holmes, T 3
Loveridge, Richard 3
Plowman, Andrew 3
Tovey, Tim 3
Wilton, Nick 3
Chadband, Brett 2
Davies, Rick 2
Goad, Alan 2
Lambley, John 2
Maginness, Glen 2
Scott, Don 2
Bennett, Andrew 1
Burmeister, Michael 1
DiPierdomenico, Robert 1
Shields, Russell 1
Walter, Richard 1
Code:
Player In best Our BOG
Hoyer, Craig 9
Hendrie, John 8 3
Wade, Scott 7 4
Waters, Tony 7 1
Schwab, Peter 6 3
Foster, Dale 6 1
Mace, Robert 6 1
Murnane, Peter 6 1
Howard, Glenn 6
Considine, Paul 5
De Wolde, Alle 5
Burmeister, Michael 4 1
Halbert, Gary 4 1
Wilkinson, Robert 4
Wilton, Nick 4
Ablett, Gary 3 1
Ayres, Gary 3 1
McCarthy, Michael 3 1
Kershaw, Kim 3
Polkinghorne, David 3
Smith, Trevor 2 1
Bennett, Andrew 2
Davies, Rick 2
McIntosh, G 2
Peters, Terry 2
Plowman, Andrew 2
Scott, Don 2
Turner, Mark 2
Dreher 1 1
Goad, Alan 1 1
Abbott, Paul 1
Buckley, Michael 1
Clarke, Tony 1
DiPierdomenico, Robert 1
Featherston, Stephen 1
Goss, Norm 1
Jones, Bernie 1
Knights, Peter 1
Lambley, John 1
Loveridge, Richard 1
Moncrieff, Michael 1
Paton, Ian 1
Tovey, Tim 1The leading goalkicker for the Hawks Reserves in 1981 was Michael Buckley - he never played senior footy. He kicked another 20 goals in 1982.
Rick Davies arrived from SA with a big reputation, but was perhaps a bit past his prime. He was a CHF who could do a bit of ruckwork, and although he was regarded by supporters as something of a flop, he did win the Best First Year Player Award, playing 20 senior games and booting 37 goals. He was dropped mid-season for two Reserves games, and responded well, being named in the best players on both occasions. At season's end he returned to SA.
Rover Richard Loveridge began at Hawthorn in 1981, playing a handful of games for the Ressies. His career took off the following year when he played the whole season in the seniors, winning the Best First Year Player Award. He went on to play 136 games and kick 120 goals. He played in the 1983 and 1986 Premierships as well as 3 Night Premierships. He won the Best Team Player Award in 1985 and the Most Consistent Player Award in 1986. He is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Football Club and needs to remember that at relevant times in his role on the MRP.
Paul Abbott's name first surfaces at Hawthorn in 1981. He wouldn't debut until mid-1984. The perfect pinch-hitter, he could fill in at CHF or CHB, and also took his turn in the ruck. It took him a couple of years of Reserves footy to even get his name appearing in the best players with any regularity, and 3 BOG games in 4 weeks was the catalyst for his senior debut in round 13 of 1984. He only played the 2 games, and 9 the following year. He became a regular in 1986 and played in the Premiership side that year. He was dropped for the last 9 H/A games of 1987 (named in the best players for the Reserves in 8 of them) but was recalled for the entire finals series, no doubt due to his valuable flexibility. He had a terrific 1988 season, playing every game and capping it off with 6 goals in the winning Grand Final. A broken leg mid-way through 1989 halted his career and he never found his form again. Obviously held in high regard, he was awarded the Most Consistent Player Award in 1989, despite only playing the first 10 games. 'Eddie' also played in 4 Night Premierships, and finished up playing a few games for Fitzroy after 85 at Hawthorn.
Dermott Brereton would become one of the most celebrated players in football history. Playing most of the 1981 seaon in the U19s, he kicked one goal in each of rounds 1, 2, 3 and 7 for the Reserves. In 1982 he booted 26 goals for the Ressies, including a bag of 7 in round 22. In the Reserve's Elimination Final he kicked 2, wasn't named in the best, but still was called up to replace Mike Moncrieff in the seniors' First Semi Final, famously kicking 5 goals on debut. Brereton's career would be a glittering one, 5 Day and 5 Night Premierships (tm), 189 games and 427 goals for the Hawks, he won the Club Champion Award in 1985, also leading the club goalkicking that year. He was All Australian 3 times, and won the Hawks' Most Serviceable Player Award in 1987, the Best Team Player in 1989 and the Most Courageous Player in 1991. He was reported 15 times while at Hawthorn, and suspended for 22 weeks. He is a Hawthorn Hall of Fame member and Life Member, and was named at CHF in the Hawks' Team of the Century and Ultimate Premiership Team. Derm made those around him walk taller and is as responsible as anyone for the onfield success Hawthorn enjoyed in its finest era.
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Dermott's introduction would be close to the best ever in VFL/AFL circles - "five day, five night". Tucky would surpass Dermott, but Tucky doesn't do any media, so nobody remembers (outside Hawthorn fans, of course).
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1982:
The 1982 Reserves season was an interesting one for the Hawks. After a couple of wins the Hawks lost 5 straight, 2 of them by massive margins. But just a few weeks later, in round 11, they set a new highest score of 209. Also worth a look is are the scores from the round 19 win, which would have to be one of the highest scoring games ever. At any rate, with 12 wins and 10 losses, the Hawks Reserves of 1982 finished the H/A season in 4th place, and played off in the Elimination Final against North. With 5 goals from Dutton, and strong games from Goad and youngster Curran, the Hawks ran out easy winners. With Brereton promoted for Moncrieff the following week, the Hawks took on Richmond in the 1st Semi, winning by 9 points and knocking the Tigers out in straight sets. Moncrieff, for his part, kicked 6 goals, but Chris Langford was named the Hawks best. After 8 straight wins, the Hawks' streak ended in the Prelim Final, going down to St Kilda by 10 points and thus matching the senior's effort of finishing 3rd.
Goalkickers:
Best Players:
Gary Ablett's 60 goal haul in 1982 included a bag of 8 in round 19, 7 in round 8, 6 in rounds 13 and 21, and a couple of 5's and 4's.
Robert Dutton also had a good year in front of goal. He was a CHF who had played 1 game for Carlton in 1981 before switching to the Hawks for 1982. Originally from Tasmania, he was given his Hawthorn debut in round 14 after booting 16 goals in three weeks for the Reserves. It would be his only game for Hawthorn; he left the club at the end of the year.
Kim Kershaw was a ruckman who had joined the Hawks in 1981 after a couple of seasons at Richmond. He was named in the Reserves' best players 15 times in 1982, but due to Hawthorn's reluctance to play a 2nd ruckman to Ian Paton, he managed only 3 senior games that year, to add to his one from 1981. He played on at Hawthorn in 1983 but couldn't break into the senior side again.
Tasmanian Scott Wade was in his 2nd year at Hawthorn. In 1981 he'd kicked 25 goals and been the Hawks BOG in the Reserves 4 times, on his way to a debut late in the season. In 1982 he played 8 senior games, but still managed to be named in the Reserves best 13 times, the Hawks' BOG in 5 of those games. He played on in 1983 and again was very prominent for the Ressies, being named in the best 13 times, but could only manage 2 senior games. He gave his VFL career away at this point, but is now General Manager of AFL Tasmania, and as such still has some connection with the club. And his son Matthew has been a most welcome addition to the Australian Cricket Team.
Peter Curran joined the Hawks in 1982, the mobile tall forward having a very strong finish to the Reserves season, being named among the best players on the ground in the last few rounds and the finals. In the first four rounds of 1983 he kicked 5, 9, 6 and 4 goals, and was given his senior debut in round 5. He kicked 2 on debut, and 1 the following week before being dropped. He managed one more senior game later in the season but booted 51 for the '83 season in the Reserves. In 1984 he arrived as a senior player, kicking 46 goals. He would go on to play 109 games for Hawthorn, and kick 196 goals. He played in four Grand Finals, including the Premierships of 1986 and 1989, missing the 1988 Grand Final win through injury. He won the Most Courageous Player Award in 1986, and the Best Clubman Award in 1988. He played in the Night Flags of 1985 and 1986.
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v St K 21.28 154 12.12 84 Won 70
2 v Geel 18.16 124 13.19 97 Won 27
3 v Foots 17.8 110 17.30 132 Lost -22
4 v Carl 7.17 59 27.16 178 Lost -119
5 v Rich 16.15 111 17.13 115 Lost -4
6 v Nth 10.7 67 31.29 215 Lost -148
7 v Fitz 14.21 105 20.14 134 Lost -29
8 v Ess 23.18 156 22.9 141 Won 15
9 v Coll 18.19 127 9.13 67 Won 60
10 v Syd 14.13 97 15.16 106 Lost -9
11 v Melb 31.23 209 15.7 97 Won 112
12 v Geel 19.17 131 21.12 138 Lost -7
13 v Foots 23.22 160 15.14 104 Won 56
14 v Carl 13.12 90 21.14 140 Lost -50
15 v Rich 10.18 78 20.15 135 Lost -57
16 v Nth 15.11 101 17.22 124 Lost -23
17 v Fitz 24.23 167 22.16 148 Won 19
18 v Ess 16.18 114 11.21 87 Won 27
19 v Coll 30.17 197 29.8 182 Won 15
20 v Syd 27.21 183 15.15 105 Won 78
21 v Melb 26.18 174 15.17 107 Won 67
22 v St K 17.17 119 13.18 96 Won 23
EF v Nth 25.25 175 20.16 136 Won 39
SF1 v Rich 16.13 109 15.10 100 Won 9
PF v St K 14.21 105 17.13 115 Lost -10Goalkickers:
Code:
Ablett , Gary 60
Dutton, Robert 52
Brereton, Dermott 26
Gilham, Rudy 26
Moncrieff, Michael 26
Considine, Paul 24
Turner, Mark 22
Buckley, Michael 20
Schwab, Peter 20
Lambley, John 17
Lee, Scott 17
Wilton, Nick 17
Goad, Alan 16
De Wolde, Alle 14
Wade, Scott 14
Curran, Peter 11
Hendrie, John 11
Abbott, Paul 10
Bennett, Andrew 9
Peters, Terry 8
DiPierdomenico, Robert 7
Shields, Russell 6
Amos, Richard 5
Ayres. Gary 4
Goss, Norm 3
Hoyer, Craig 3
Burmeister, Michael 2
Faroe, M 2
Waters, Tony 2
Ablett, P 1
Burton 1
Chadband, Brett 1
Flintoff, David 1
Howard, Glenn 1
Kershaw, Kim 1
Langford, Chris 1
Nicholson, Peter 1
Smith, J 1
Yeoman, Peter 1
Code:
Player In best Our BOG
Kershaw, Kim 15 2
Wade, Scott 13 5
De Wolde, Alle 12 1
Schwab, Peter 10 1
Ablett , Gary 8 1
Curran, Peter 8 1
DiPierdomenico, Robert 8 3
Langford, Chris 7 2
Turner, Mark 7
Lee, Scott 6 1
Considine, Paul 5 1
Goad, Alan 5 2
Hoyer, Craig 5 1
Dutton, Robert 4
Hendrie, John 4 2
Ayres, Gary 3
Bennett, Andrew 3
Brereton, Dermott 3 1
Howard, Glenn 2
Moncrieff, Michael 2
Wilton, Nick 2 1
Burmeister, Michael 1
Chadband, Brett 1
Dickson 1
Dodd, R 1
Lambley, John 1
McCarthy, Michael 1
Shields, Russell 1Robert Dutton also had a good year in front of goal. He was a CHF who had played 1 game for Carlton in 1981 before switching to the Hawks for 1982. Originally from Tasmania, he was given his Hawthorn debut in round 14 after booting 16 goals in three weeks for the Reserves. It would be his only game for Hawthorn; he left the club at the end of the year.
Kim Kershaw was a ruckman who had joined the Hawks in 1981 after a couple of seasons at Richmond. He was named in the Reserves' best players 15 times in 1982, but due to Hawthorn's reluctance to play a 2nd ruckman to Ian Paton, he managed only 3 senior games that year, to add to his one from 1981. He played on at Hawthorn in 1983 but couldn't break into the senior side again.
Tasmanian Scott Wade was in his 2nd year at Hawthorn. In 1981 he'd kicked 25 goals and been the Hawks BOG in the Reserves 4 times, on his way to a debut late in the season. In 1982 he played 8 senior games, but still managed to be named in the Reserves best 13 times, the Hawks' BOG in 5 of those games. He played on in 1983 and again was very prominent for the Ressies, being named in the best 13 times, but could only manage 2 senior games. He gave his VFL career away at this point, but is now General Manager of AFL Tasmania, and as such still has some connection with the club. And his son Matthew has been a most welcome addition to the Australian Cricket Team.
Peter Curran joined the Hawks in 1982, the mobile tall forward having a very strong finish to the Reserves season, being named among the best players on the ground in the last few rounds and the finals. In the first four rounds of 1983 he kicked 5, 9, 6 and 4 goals, and was given his senior debut in round 5. He kicked 2 on debut, and 1 the following week before being dropped. He managed one more senior game later in the season but booted 51 for the '83 season in the Reserves. In 1984 he arrived as a senior player, kicking 46 goals. He would go on to play 109 games for Hawthorn, and kick 196 goals. He played in four Grand Finals, including the Premierships of 1986 and 1989, missing the 1988 Grand Final win through injury. He won the Most Courageous Player Award in 1986, and the Best Clubman Award in 1988. He played in the Night Flags of 1985 and 1986.
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1983:
A 12 - 10 record after the H/A season was enough for the Hawks Reserves to scrape into the finals in 1983, but they didn't get far, losing to North by 40 points in the Elimination Final and finishing the season in 5th place.
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Best Players:
James Morrissey began his Hawthorn career in 1983, but wouldn't cement himself in the senior side until late in 1988, after serving one of the longer famed-Hawthorn-Reserves-Apprenticeships. Nicknamed "The Freak" for his uncanny goals, Morrissey booted a career best 45 goals in 1983, but it was his solid form in 1984 that earned him a senior debut in round 19. It would be his only game for the best part of 3 years, his next senior game coming in 1987. He played 9 games that year, but the following season a run of 4 consecutive Reserves games where he was named in the best players saw him elevated to the senior side and he didn't look back, holding his postition in the side through to the Grand Final demolition of Melbourne. The following year he was a key member of the 1989 Premiership side, and a switch to defence saw him become a weapon there late in the 1991 season, as Morrissey became a triple Premiership player. No one else has played in 3 or more Premierships for Hawthorn without playing in a losing Grand Final. He played 106 senior games, kicking 100 goals. He also played in 3 Night Premierships, and is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Football Club.
Russell Morris arrived from Sydney in 1983. Despite some good Reserves form it would also take him some time to break into the strong Hawthorn line-up, although once he got his chance early in 1984 he took it and played 19 games that season to be named the Best First Year Player. At that stage a tall backman, he played most of 1985 in the seniors and won the Most Improved Player Award, before injury and form wiped out much of his 1986 season. He returned to form at the right time however and played the '86 finals series, including the winning Grand Final. A switch to attack in 1987 brought good results, and he was the All Australian CHF. His career was then derailed by injury, only managing another 18 games over 4 years before making a switch to St Kilda. In all he played 93 senior games for Hawthorn, and kicked 56 goals. He played in the 1985, 1986 and 1987 Grand Finals, and the Night Flags of 1985 and 1988.
It's not widely known that at the end of both the 1981 and 1982 seasons, there were drafts. With pick 7 in 1981, Hawthorn selected Ken Judge. (With pick 19 Hawthorn selected an 18-year old John Platten, but his eventual recruitment was another story. With pick 10 in 1982 the Hawks selected Rod Lester-Smith). Judge came to Hawthorn from WA in 1983 and won the Best First Year Player Award, playing in the Premiership that year. He won the Best Clubman Award in 1984, a season in which he booted 63 goals from a flank. Judge played in the losing 1984 and 1985 Grand Finals, and the Night Premierships of 1985 and 1986. He fell out of favour on the eve of the 1986 finals and missed that Flag, and left to join the new Brisbane Bears in 1987, after 72 games and 158 goals for the Hawks. Of course he returned to coach the club from 1996 to 1999, taking out the 1999 Pre-Season Premiership.
Ruckman Michael Byrne had switched across to Hawthorn from Melbourne early in the 1982 season, famously kicking 8 goals on debut for the Hawks. He missed a chunk of the 1983 season with injury, returning via the Reserves in round 19 before being recalled to the seniors in round 20 and going on to kick 3 goals in the Grand Final win. 1984 was his best season, playing every game. His form gradually deteriorated over the next couple of seasons as the bloke below began to state his case. By the end of 1986 Mick was out of favour, and after a couple of Reserves games in 1987, he reprised his mid-season shift act, and moved to the Swans where he played a few seasons, but just the 4 goals on debut this time. He had played 90 games and booted 97 goals for the Hawks.
Probably the main reason for Byrne's departure was the form of Greg Dear. Dear joined the club in 1983, not having a major impact in the Reserves that year but getting in the best players 9 times in 1984, including 5 times BOG. After getting named in the best players 5 times in a row for the Reserves early in 1985, he made his senior debut in round 7. He played 5 senior games that year, but ended up jointly winning the Gardiner Medal as the best player in the Reserves competition (jointly winning it with another Hawthorn player, James Bennett). In 1986 he won the Hawks' Most Improved Player Award, validated by also wininng All Australian Selection. He went on to play 137 games for the Hawks, including the 1986, 1988 and 1989 Premierships. In 1988 he won the Most Serviceable Player and Best Team Player Awards. He played in the Night Premierships of 1985, 1986, 1991 and 1992, although the 1991 one came at a cost, as he did his ACL in that game. He left the Hawks at the end of 1993 to play for Richmond, however he is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Footy Club.
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v Fitz 20.23 143 21.16 142 Won 1
2 v Syd 25.19 169 13.7 85 Won 84
3 v St K 22.18 150 12.14 86 Won 64
4 v Foots 24.17 161 18.3 111 Won 50
5 v Coll 12.20 92 13.21 99 Lost -7
6 v Rich 13.12 90 20.13 133 Lost -43
7 v Nth 17.17 119 22.15 147 Lost -28
8 v Ess 16.25 121 14.10 94 Won 27
9 v Carl 11.18 84 13.14 92 Lost -8
10 v Melb 17.14 116 13.13 91 Won 25
11 v Geel 19.12 126 12.17 89 Won 37
12 v Fitz 16.18 114 23.17 155 Lost -41
13 v Syd 13.9 87 18.21 129 Lost -42
14 v St K 13.21 99 15.14 104 Lost -5
15 v Foots 18.12 120 5.10 40 Won 80
16 v Coll 21.8 134 17.12 114 Won 20
17 v Rich 15.22 112 17.11 113 Lost -1
18 v Nth 14.18 102 17.8 110 Lost -8
19 v Ess 9.17 71 20.22 142 Lost -71
20 v Carl 16.22 118 15.16 106 Won 12
21 v Melb 24.27 171 9.9 63 Won 108
22 v Geel 18.15 123 8.11 59 Won 64
EF v Nth 13.19 97 19.23 137 Lost -40Goalkickers:
Code:
Curran, Peter 51
Morrissey, James 45
Considine, Paul 29
Wade, Scott 29
Lee, Scott 20
Shields, Russell 19
Moncrieff, Michael 17
Allen, Anthony 16
Flintoff, David 14
De Wolde, Alle 13
Mandemaker, Rudi 12
Turner, Mark 12
Bourke, Nicholas 11
Goad, Alan 11
Morris, Russell 8
Bennett, Andy 7
McCarthy, Michael 6
Parsons, Richard 6
Fowler, Grant 5
Loveridge, Richard 5
Peters, Terry 5
Brereton, Dermott 4
McGrath, Shane 4
Abbott, Paul 3
Judge, Ken 3
Langford, Chris 3
Polkinghorne, David 3
Bain, Craig 2
Considine, Matthew 2
DiPierdomenico, Robert 2
Handley, Robert 2
Kershaw, Kim 2
Lambley, John 2
O'Halloran, David 2
Paton, Ian 2
Whitfield, Richard 2
Byrne, Michael 1
Dear, Greg 1
Duursma, Jamie 1
Howard, Glenn 1
Luke, Rodney 1
Robertson, Colin 1
Young, Bradley 1
Code:
Player In best Our BOG
Wade, Scott 14 6
Turner, Mark 13 2
Abbott, Paul 8
De Wolde, Alle 8 1
Allen, Anthony 7
Considine, Paul 7 3
Morris, Russell 7 1
Morrissey, James 7 1
Curran, Peter 6 3
Flintoff, David 5
Goad, Alan 5
Bennett, Andy 4 2
Langford, Chris 4
McCarthy, Michael 4
Dear, Greg 3
DiPierdomenico, Robert 3 1
Lee, Scott 3 1
O'Halloran, David 3
Goss, Norm 2
Kershaw, Kim 2
Knights, Peter 2
Loveridge, Richard 2
Polkinghorne, David 2 1
Shields, Russell 2
Brereton, Dermott 1
Fowler, Grant 1
Howard, Glenn 1
Mandemaker, Rudi 1
McGrath, Shane 1
Moncrieff, Michael 1 1
Parsons, Richard 1
Paton, Ian 1
Pratt, Andrew 1
Robertson, Colin 1Russell Morris arrived from Sydney in 1983. Despite some good Reserves form it would also take him some time to break into the strong Hawthorn line-up, although once he got his chance early in 1984 he took it and played 19 games that season to be named the Best First Year Player. At that stage a tall backman, he played most of 1985 in the seniors and won the Most Improved Player Award, before injury and form wiped out much of his 1986 season. He returned to form at the right time however and played the '86 finals series, including the winning Grand Final. A switch to attack in 1987 brought good results, and he was the All Australian CHF. His career was then derailed by injury, only managing another 18 games over 4 years before making a switch to St Kilda. In all he played 93 senior games for Hawthorn, and kicked 56 goals. He played in the 1985, 1986 and 1987 Grand Finals, and the Night Flags of 1985 and 1988.
It's not widely known that at the end of both the 1981 and 1982 seasons, there were drafts. With pick 7 in 1981, Hawthorn selected Ken Judge. (With pick 19 Hawthorn selected an 18-year old John Platten, but his eventual recruitment was another story. With pick 10 in 1982 the Hawks selected Rod Lester-Smith). Judge came to Hawthorn from WA in 1983 and won the Best First Year Player Award, playing in the Premiership that year. He won the Best Clubman Award in 1984, a season in which he booted 63 goals from a flank. Judge played in the losing 1984 and 1985 Grand Finals, and the Night Premierships of 1985 and 1986. He fell out of favour on the eve of the 1986 finals and missed that Flag, and left to join the new Brisbane Bears in 1987, after 72 games and 158 goals for the Hawks. Of course he returned to coach the club from 1996 to 1999, taking out the 1999 Pre-Season Premiership.
Ruckman Michael Byrne had switched across to Hawthorn from Melbourne early in the 1982 season, famously kicking 8 goals on debut for the Hawks. He missed a chunk of the 1983 season with injury, returning via the Reserves in round 19 before being recalled to the seniors in round 20 and going on to kick 3 goals in the Grand Final win. 1984 was his best season, playing every game. His form gradually deteriorated over the next couple of seasons as the bloke below began to state his case. By the end of 1986 Mick was out of favour, and after a couple of Reserves games in 1987, he reprised his mid-season shift act, and moved to the Swans where he played a few seasons, but just the 4 goals on debut this time. He had played 90 games and booted 97 goals for the Hawks.
Probably the main reason for Byrne's departure was the form of Greg Dear. Dear joined the club in 1983, not having a major impact in the Reserves that year but getting in the best players 9 times in 1984, including 5 times BOG. After getting named in the best players 5 times in a row for the Reserves early in 1985, he made his senior debut in round 7. He played 5 senior games that year, but ended up jointly winning the Gardiner Medal as the best player in the Reserves competition (jointly winning it with another Hawthorn player, James Bennett). In 1986 he won the Hawks' Most Improved Player Award, validated by also wininng All Australian Selection. He went on to play 137 games for the Hawks, including the 1986, 1988 and 1989 Premierships. In 1988 he won the Most Serviceable Player and Best Team Player Awards. He played in the Night Premierships of 1985, 1986, 1991 and 1992, although the 1991 one came at a cost, as he did his ACL in that game. He left the Hawks at the end of 1993 to play for Richmond, however he is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Footy Club.
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1984:
15 wins and 7 losses was good enough for a H/A finish of 3rd place for the Hawks Reserves of 1984, however they suffered the ignominy of becoming the first Hawthorn side ever to go out in 'straight sets'. And they did it in style, losing the Qulaifying final by 90 points and the 1st Semi by 83, to wind up 4th.
Goalkickers:
Best Players:
Rod Lester-Smith was selected by Hawthorn at pick 10 in the 1982 draft. He arrived at the Hawks in 1984, and after getting in the bests for the Reserves in the first two games of the season, he slotted into the senior side for his debut. He struggled to hold his spot for the first half of the year but played the last 11 games, including the '84 finals series. He played every game in 1985, winning the Most Consistent Player Award, and most of 1986 but wasn't included in the 1986 Grand Final side. After a solid second half of the 1987 season, he jinxed himself on the eve of the finals by publically expressing his disappointment at being dropped for the '86 Grand Final, and how determined he was to make amends in '87. He was promptly dropped for the 1987 finals and left the club to join Brisbane. He is probably best remembered for having a brawl with then teammate Dermott Brereton in a 1985 State of origin match, a year in which he earnt All Australian Honours. He played in Hawthorn's 1985 and 1986 Night Premierships.
Chris Wittman was the Hawk's U19 Captain in 1984, but he was already playing the odd Reserves game. In 1985 he made the best players for the Reserves 11 times, including 4 BOGs. After being named in the best players in each of the first 4 rounds of 1986, he made his senior debut in round 5. He played nine senior games that year, winning the Best First Year Player Award, but missing the finals. He only managed 4 games in 1987, but arrived in earnest in 1988, picking up the Most Improved Player Award, playing almost every game including the 1988 Premiership. He also played in the 1989 Premiership side but, like a few others, struggled for form in 1990, playing 17 games. He managed 16 in 1991, but was dropped during the finals. He fell right out of favour in 1992, playing just 2 games, and feeling unjustly treated he walked out on the club mid-season, winding up at St Kilda. He'd played 89 games for the Hawks, and played in 4 Night Premierships.
Gary Buckenara played his first Reserves game this year after his horrific knee injury in the 1983 Grand Final. Surprisingly, he played as early as round 11 1984, kicking 2 goals. He added 6 more over the ensuing weeks, before being selected for the seniors in round 22. He was dropped after that game, and was named in the best players in the Reserves' Semi Final loss. Bucky took another year to find his best form, in and out of Hawthorn's side in 1985, and famously (spoiler alert) booting 8 goals in the Ressie's magic come-from-behind win in the Grand Final, after popping through 6 the week before in the Prelim (selection committe, hello?). Bucky of course had a sensational senior career at Hawthorn, playing 154 games and kicking 293 goals. He played in the 1983, 1986, 1988 and 1989 Premierships and the 1986 and 1988 Night Premierships. He was All-Australian 4 times, and won the Most Serviceable Player Award in his debut season in 1982. He earned State Representation (for WA) 9 times, and booted a pretty special goal in the 1987 Prelim Final to get the Hawks in to the Grand Final that year. He is a Hawthorn Hall of Fame and Life Member, and is named on the forward flank in the Hawks Team of the Century and Ultimate Premiership Team. He was also awarded Mark of the Year in 1986, which was lucky, because he dropped a better one in the '86 Grand Final. Bucky of course also had the honour of calling out Luke Franklin's name in the 2004 draft.
Andy Collins was at Hawthorn in 1984, playing a couple of Reserves games. He played elsewhere in 1985 but returned to the Hawks in 1986 for another crack. It took him until 1987 to debut, but after 5 games he was dropped for round 9. With sustained good Reserves form, he forced his way back into the senior side in round 22, and played so well there he maintained his place for the first couple of finals. Dropped for the Prelim, he came back into the Grand Final side as a replacement for Richard Loveridge. From that point on he enjoyed a sterling senior career, playing in the 1988, 1989 and 1991 Premierships, winning the Hawk's Best and Fairest in 1990 (and the Most Determined Award), and playing 189 consecutive matches from round 19, 1988 to his final game in round 22, 1996, a Hawthorn record that still stands. In all, he played 212 games, as well as 3 Night Premierships. He is a Life Member of Hawthorn and was named in the back pocket in the Hawks Ultimate Premiership Team.
Shane McGrath was a young full forward, who's 7 goals for the Ressies in round 20 earned him a debut for the seniors, replacing an injured Leigh Matthews. He managed one goal in what would be his only senior game, a win over the Pies. His 31 Reserves goals in 1984 was followed by 68 in 1985, enough to win the goalkicking in the Reserves Competition that year. He played on in 1986, adding another 18 goals by mid-season before realising that with Dunstall there it was all in vain and leaving the club for greener pastures.
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v Syd 19.13 127 15.10 100 Won 27
2 v Ess 17.18 120 17.13 115 Won 5
3 v Melb 16.15 111 19.15 129 Lost -18
4 v St K 22.16 148 10.17 77 Won 71
5 v Foots 17.11 113 7.8 50 Won 63
6 v Rich 31.18 204 14.10 94 Won 110
7 v Fitz 21.18 144 14.20 104 Won 40
8 v Carl 17.14 116 27.20 182 Lost -66
9 v Nth 19.20 134 12.14 86 Won 48
10 v Geel 12.11 83 19.7 121 Lost -38
11 v Coll 21.14 140 15.8 98 Won 42
12 v Ess 14.22 106 9.12 66 Won 40
13 v Melb 11.11 77 17.16 118 Lost -41
14 v St K 8.20 68 10.17 77 Lost -9
15 v Foots 20.25 145 13.12 90 Won 55
16 v Rich 17.14 116 12.6 78 Won 38
17 v Fitz 10.16 76 8.13 61 Won 15
18 v Carl 12.11 83 17.16 118 Lost -35
19 v Nth 16.14 110 13.11 89 Won 21
20 v Syd 14.13 97 11.12 78 Won 19
21 v Coll 15.13 103 16.14 110 Lost -7
22 v Geel 13.12 90 12.7 79 Won 11
QF v Carl 13.5 83 27.11 173 Lost -90
SF1 v Coll 10.16 76 23.21 159 Lost -83Goalkickers:
Code:
Bennett, Andy 52
Allender, Steven 35
Shields, Russell 35
McGrath, Shane 31
Flintoff, David 28
Morrissey, James 25
Considine, Paul 18
Nicholson, Phillip 18
Bennett, James 14
Goad, Alan 13
Lee, Scott 13
Buckenara, Gary 10
Allen, Anthony 9
Curran, Peter 9
De Wolde, Alle 9
Dear, Greg 7
Fowler, Grant 7
Mandemaker, Rudi 7
Paton, Ian 7
Wittman, Chris 7
Abbott, Paul 6
Handley, Robert 5
Loveridge, Richard 4
Collins, Andy C. 3
Flintoff, Jamie 3
Howard, Glenn 3
Pratt, Andrew 2
Duursma, Jamie 1
Lovett, Brett 1
McCarthy, Michael 1
Morris, Russell 1
O'Halloran, David 1
Code:
Player In best Our BOG
Abbott, Paul 10 4
Flintoff, David 10 1
Bennett, Andy 9 2
Dear, Greg 9 5
Paton, Ian 8 3
Considine, Paul 6 1
Fowler, Grant 6
Morrissey, James 6 2
Goad, Alan 5 1
Howard, Glenn 5
McGrath, Shane 5 1
O'Halloran, David 5 1
Handley, Robert 4 1
Lester-Smith, Rod 4 1
Moore, Kelvin 4
Bennett, James 3
Pratt, Andrew 3
Shields, Russell 3
Wittman, Chris 3
Allen, Anthony 2 1
Allender, Steven 2
Curran, Peter 2
Langford, Chris 2
Lee, Scott 2
Nicholson, Phillip 2
Polkinghorne, David 2
Buckenara, Gary 1
Collins, Andy C. 1
Guerts, Michael 1
Loveridge, Richard 1
McCarthy, Michael 1
Morris, Russell 1
Russo, Peter 1Chris Wittman was the Hawk's U19 Captain in 1984, but he was already playing the odd Reserves game. In 1985 he made the best players for the Reserves 11 times, including 4 BOGs. After being named in the best players in each of the first 4 rounds of 1986, he made his senior debut in round 5. He played nine senior games that year, winning the Best First Year Player Award, but missing the finals. He only managed 4 games in 1987, but arrived in earnest in 1988, picking up the Most Improved Player Award, playing almost every game including the 1988 Premiership. He also played in the 1989 Premiership side but, like a few others, struggled for form in 1990, playing 17 games. He managed 16 in 1991, but was dropped during the finals. He fell right out of favour in 1992, playing just 2 games, and feeling unjustly treated he walked out on the club mid-season, winding up at St Kilda. He'd played 89 games for the Hawks, and played in 4 Night Premierships.
Gary Buckenara played his first Reserves game this year after his horrific knee injury in the 1983 Grand Final. Surprisingly, he played as early as round 11 1984, kicking 2 goals. He added 6 more over the ensuing weeks, before being selected for the seniors in round 22. He was dropped after that game, and was named in the best players in the Reserves' Semi Final loss. Bucky took another year to find his best form, in and out of Hawthorn's side in 1985, and famously (spoiler alert) booting 8 goals in the Ressie's magic come-from-behind win in the Grand Final, after popping through 6 the week before in the Prelim (selection committe, hello?). Bucky of course had a sensational senior career at Hawthorn, playing 154 games and kicking 293 goals. He played in the 1983, 1986, 1988 and 1989 Premierships and the 1986 and 1988 Night Premierships. He was All-Australian 4 times, and won the Most Serviceable Player Award in his debut season in 1982. He earned State Representation (for WA) 9 times, and booted a pretty special goal in the 1987 Prelim Final to get the Hawks in to the Grand Final that year. He is a Hawthorn Hall of Fame and Life Member, and is named on the forward flank in the Hawks Team of the Century and Ultimate Premiership Team. He was also awarded Mark of the Year in 1986, which was lucky, because he dropped a better one in the '86 Grand Final. Bucky of course also had the honour of calling out Luke Franklin's name in the 2004 draft.
Andy Collins was at Hawthorn in 1984, playing a couple of Reserves games. He played elsewhere in 1985 but returned to the Hawks in 1986 for another crack. It took him until 1987 to debut, but after 5 games he was dropped for round 9. With sustained good Reserves form, he forced his way back into the senior side in round 22, and played so well there he maintained his place for the first couple of finals. Dropped for the Prelim, he came back into the Grand Final side as a replacement for Richard Loveridge. From that point on he enjoyed a sterling senior career, playing in the 1988, 1989 and 1991 Premierships, winning the Hawk's Best and Fairest in 1990 (and the Most Determined Award), and playing 189 consecutive matches from round 19, 1988 to his final game in round 22, 1996, a Hawthorn record that still stands. In all, he played 212 games, as well as 3 Night Premierships. He is a Life Member of Hawthorn and was named in the back pocket in the Hawks Ultimate Premiership Team.
Shane McGrath was a young full forward, who's 7 goals for the Ressies in round 20 earned him a debut for the seniors, replacing an injured Leigh Matthews. He managed one goal in what would be his only senior game, a win over the Pies. His 31 Reserves goals in 1984 was followed by 68 in 1985, enough to win the goalkicking in the Reserves Competition that year. He played on in 1986, adding another 18 goals by mid-season before realising that with Dunstall there it was all in vain and leaving the club for greener pastures.
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1985 Premiers!!
With 18 wins and 4 losses, the Hawks Reserves of 1985 finished the H/A season in 2nd place. Carlton were first with just 2 losses, but the Hawks were a full 4.5 wins clear of 3rd placed Melbourne. However that didn't stop Melbourne from upsetting the Hawks in the Qualifying Final. The Hawks turned it around the following week, smashing Essendon in the 1st Semi Final, Peter Knights the star with 5 goals, Judge and McGrath 4 each. So the Hawks had a rematch with Melbourne in the Prelim, and avenged their Qualifying Final loss by thumping the Dees to the tune of 50 points, with Buckenara BOG with 6 goals. O'Halloran's strong form saw him selected for the seniors Grand Final, but for some reason Bucky was overlooked. Dropped from the seniors were Eade and Knights, and the Reserves Grand Final side was named thus:
B: C.Wittman G.Howard M.Byrne
HB: J.Morrissey P.Abbott C.Robertson
C: R.Teal R.Eade(c) P.Considine
HF: G.Buckenara P.Curran D.Sullivan
F: J.Bennett P.Knights S.McGrath
Foll: G.Dear S.Malaxos
Rv: D.Flintoff
Int from: M.Guerts R.Ellingworth P.Bailey B.Lovett
Coach: Des Meagher
That Grand Final side contained 5 senior Hawthorn Premiership players, and another 5 that would win flags in the years to come. Carlton had been the outstanding Reserves side of the season, and with their senior side out of the finals, their Reserves side was even more experienced than Hawthorn's. Carlton's side contained names such as Warren Jones, Mario Bortolotto, Bruce Doull, Val Perovic, Rod Austin, Warren Ralph, Frank Marchesani, Des English and Alex Marcou, as well as a young Mil Hanna and of all people, Ricky Nixon!
The Hawks started well, but fell behind as the match wore on. At 3qtr time they were 16 points adrift, but entered football folklore by slamming home 9 last-qtr goals to storm home, Buckenara sparking the comeback and finishing the match with 8 goals to be BOG. Knights, his last outing overshadowed by Lethal's emotional exit in the main game, booted 4 goals, as the Hawks Reserves brought home their fourth Premiership in outstanding style.
VFL Reserves Grand Final:
Goalkickers (2 goals v Nth in r22 unavailable):
Best Players:
Shane McGrath won the Reserves League goalkicking with 68. He booted a bag of six in round 14, eight in round 16, seven in round 22. James Bennett and Greg Dear were joint winners of the Gardiner Medal for the Best and Fairest in the Reserves Competition.
Michael Tuck played his last ever Reserves game in the Prelim Final. After being injured in round 22, he returned via the Ressies in this match and showed sufficient form to be selected for the senior Grand Final.
Midfielder Steve Malaxos arrived from WA with a massive reputation (he was the All-Australian Captain and had just won the Sandover Medal), but failed to live up to it. He managed 9 senior games in 1985, played in the Night Premiership, returning home after the Reserves Premiership triumph. He was All-Australian again in 1986, and won West Coast's inaugural B&F in 1987.
Robert Dickson and Sean Ralphsmith would become cult players for the Hawks Ressie's over the next few years. Ralphsmith was a half-forward who had his best year for the Ressies in 1988, booting 43 goals and earning a senior debut in round 21, in which he kicked 3 goals, but wouldn't play again until 1990, his last season at Hawthorn. There's a story out there somewhere about him stealing taxi vouchers from AFL house. He wound up at St Kilda. Rob Dickson was known as a Ressies cult hero, a helicopter pilot, reality TV star, and brilliant footy-movie creator. He had a few brilliant seasons for the Hawks Reserves, kicking 63 goals in 1987 and 30 in 1988, the year he finally made his senior debut. He played 17 games for Hawthorn, before moving to Brisbane in 1991 and playing in their Reserves Premiership that year (along with Peter Curran, Rod Lester-Smith, and coached by Rodney Eade). Rob and his sons tragically lost their lives in a car accident in 2009.
David Flintoff had played one senior game in 1983. He wouldn't add to that at Hawthorn, but in 1985 he showed terrific consistency, being named in the best players 14 times. He left Hawthorn after that season, but turned up at Melbourne in 1988, playing against Hawthorn in the Grand Final that year with another ex-Hawks Reserves player in Jamie Duursma.
Son of 1957 finals player Norm, Scott Maginness first played at Hawthorn in 1985. Another to serve a lengthy apprenticeship, he debuted for the seniors in 1988 in round 2 after being named the Hawks best in the Reserves in round 1. He played 131 games for Hawthorn, playing in the back-to-back flags of 1988-89. He was named Best Clubman in 1992 and is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Football Club.
Ray Jencke also began his Hawthorn career in 1985. He would watch the Hawks win 3 Premierships without him before finally playing in the Premiership side of 1991. He debuted in 1986, and won the Most Improved Player Award in 1987, and the Most Serviceable Award in 1990. He played 194 games for Hawthorn, and also played in 3 Night Premierships. He is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Footy Club.
The fat kid from Queensland arrived at Hawthorn in 1985. Jason Dunstall booted 2 goals in his first Reserves outing, which was the round 3 game against Essendon that was brought forward to open the season the week before round 1. When Hawthorn then lost round 1 as well, and Leigh Matthews was injured, it was time to bring in Dunstall for his first game against Melburne in round 2, depsite him not having kicked a goal in the round 1 Reserves game against Geelong. Dunstall kicked 3 goals on debut, and held his place for two more games (single goals each game) before being dropped for round 6. He kicked 2 goals, then 3 the next week. Then in round 8 he booted 6, and another 6 in round 9 to earn another promotion to the seniors. He failed to goal and was dropped again, but responded with 17 goals in the next 4 Reserves games to be recalled again in round 15. He kicked just the one, and was probably set for demotion, but Lethal got deregistered for 4 weeks at this point and JD was the man at full-forward in round 16, and relished the chance, booting 8 goals. He wouldn't play another Reserves game in his career; his accolades listed as follows:
269 senior games, 1,254 goals.
21 Finals, 5 Grand Finals, 4 Premierships (1986, 1988, 1989, 1991)
Hawthorn Captain 1995-1998
Hawthorn B&F 4 times (1988, 1989, 1992, 1993)
Hawthorn leading goalkicker 12 times (record)
Coleman Medalist 3 times (1988, 1989, 1992)
129 Brownlow votes
4-time All Australian
5 Night Premierships
29 Night matches for 116 goals (most goals for Hawthorn)
1985 Encouragement Award
1986 Best Team Player Award
1988 Most Determined Player Award
1990 Most Courageous Player Award
1991 Most Serviceable Player Award
Hawthorn Life Member
Hawthorn and AFL Hall of Fame Member
8 times State of Origin Representative
Simpson Medalist and E.J.Whitten Medalist 1989
AFLPA and AFLMA MVP 1992
Hawthorn Team of the Century Forward Pocket
Hawthorn Ultimate Premiership Team Full Forward
Most goals ever for Hawthorn
Most goals in finals for Hawthorn (78)
Most consecutive matches with a goal for Hawthorn (72)
Most goals in 1 match for Hawthorn (17)
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v Geel 24.18 162 8.6 54 Won 108
2 v Melb 13.9 87 18.16 124 Lost -37
3 v Ess 16.19 115 13.17 95 Won 20
4 v Syd 24.14 158 11.13 79 Won 79
5 v Rich 19.17 131 15.12 102 Won 29
6 v Fitz 13.14 92 14.19 103 Lost -11
7 v St K 19.17 131 25.13 163 Lost -32
8 v Coll 16.27 123 16.9 105 Won 18
9 v Foots 21.22 148 8.10 58 Won 90
10 v Carl 24.21 165 11.9 75 Won 90
11 v Nth 20.12 132 9.10 64 Won 68
12 v Geel 20.18 138 13.10 88 Won 50
13 v Melb 13.15 93 10.21 81 Won 12
14 v Ess 18.18 126 15.9 99 Won 27
15 v Syd 14.21 105 12.10 82 Won 23
16 v Rich 28.12 180 14.14 98 Won 82
17 v Fitz 25.13 163 16.19 115 Won 48
18 v St K 23.22 160 14.7 91 Won 69
19 v Coll 15.20 110 10.5 65 Won 45
20 v Foots 12.13 85 10.11 71 Won 14
21 v Carl 17.7 109 22.14 146 Lost -37
22 v Nth 30.13 193 13.11 89 Won 104
QF v Melb 12.11 83 16.19 115 Lost -32
SF1 v Ess 24.10 154 11.16 82 Won 72
PF v Melb 20.9 129 11.13 79 Won 50
GF v Carl 18.16 124 16.12 108 Won 16B: C.Wittman G.Howard M.Byrne
HB: J.Morrissey P.Abbott C.Robertson
C: R.Teal R.Eade(c) P.Considine
HF: G.Buckenara P.Curran D.Sullivan
F: J.Bennett P.Knights S.McGrath
Foll: G.Dear S.Malaxos
Rv: D.Flintoff
Int from: M.Guerts R.Ellingworth P.Bailey B.Lovett
Coach: Des Meagher
That Grand Final side contained 5 senior Hawthorn Premiership players, and another 5 that would win flags in the years to come. Carlton had been the outstanding Reserves side of the season, and with their senior side out of the finals, their Reserves side was even more experienced than Hawthorn's. Carlton's side contained names such as Warren Jones, Mario Bortolotto, Bruce Doull, Val Perovic, Rod Austin, Warren Ralph, Frank Marchesani, Des English and Alex Marcou, as well as a young Mil Hanna and of all people, Ricky Nixon!
The Hawks started well, but fell behind as the match wore on. At 3qtr time they were 16 points adrift, but entered football folklore by slamming home 9 last-qtr goals to storm home, Buckenara sparking the comeback and finishing the match with 8 goals to be BOG. Knights, his last outing overshadowed by Lethal's emotional exit in the main game, booted 4 goals, as the Hawks Reserves brought home their fourth Premiership in outstanding style.
VFL Reserves Grand Final:
Code:
HAWTHORN 4.3 7.6 9.12 18.16 (124)
CARLTON 3.3 8.4 12.10 16.12 (108)
Goals: Buckenara 8, Knights 4, Bennett 2, Abbott 1, Considine 1, Sullivan 1, Wittman 1.
Best: Buckenara, Eade, Bennett, Dear, Malaxos, Sullivan, Knights.
Code:
McGrath, Shane 68
Dunstall, Jason 36
Bennett, James 28
Malaxos, Steve 23
Considine, Paul 22
Shields, Russell 22
Curran, Peter 21
Flintoff, David 21
Morrissey, James 21
Bailey, Pat 18
Abbott, Paul 15
Handley, Robert 15
Wittman, Chris 15
Buckenara, Gary 14
Judge, Ken 14
Robertson, Colin 14
Dear, Greg 13
Ellingworth, Roger 13
Knights, Peter 13
Lovett, Brett 11
De Boer, Matthew 9
Sullivan, David 9
McCarthy, Michael 7
Paton, Ian 7
Allen, Anthony 6
Maginness, Scott 6
Dickson, Robert 4
Guerts, Michael 4
Hipworth, Mark 4
Byrne, Michael 3
Loveridge, Richard 3
Teal, Robert 3
Eade, Rodney 2
Garrett, Paul 2
Mew, Rohan 2
Schwab, Peter 2
? 2
DiPierdomenico, Robert 1
Howard, Glenn 1
Jencke, Ray 1
McMaster, David 1
Nicol, Stuart 1
Ralphsmith, Sean 1
Code:
Player In best Our BOG
Flintoff, David 14 4
O'Halloran, David 12 3
Wittman, Chris 11 4
Bennett, James 10 1
Dear, Greg 10 2
Howard, Glenn 10 1
Malaxos, Steve 8 2
Considine, Paul 6
Schwab, Peter 6
Eade, Rodney 5
Guerts, Michael 5
McCarthy, Michael 5 1
McGrath, Shane 5
Abbott, Paul 4 1
Dunstall, Jason 4
Morrissey, James 4 2
Paton, Ian 4
Robertson, Colin 4 1
Bailey, Pat 3
Buckenara, Gary 3 2
Curran, Peter 3
Judge, Ken 3
Knights, Peter 3 1
Lovett, Brett 3
Sullivan, David 3
Maginness, Scott 2
DiPierdomenico, Robert 1
Ellingworth, Roger 1
Handley, Robert 1
Langford, Chris 1
Loveridge, Richard 1 1
Tuck, Michael 1Michael Tuck played his last ever Reserves game in the Prelim Final. After being injured in round 22, he returned via the Ressies in this match and showed sufficient form to be selected for the senior Grand Final.
Midfielder Steve Malaxos arrived from WA with a massive reputation (he was the All-Australian Captain and had just won the Sandover Medal), but failed to live up to it. He managed 9 senior games in 1985, played in the Night Premiership, returning home after the Reserves Premiership triumph. He was All-Australian again in 1986, and won West Coast's inaugural B&F in 1987.
Robert Dickson and Sean Ralphsmith would become cult players for the Hawks Ressie's over the next few years. Ralphsmith was a half-forward who had his best year for the Ressies in 1988, booting 43 goals and earning a senior debut in round 21, in which he kicked 3 goals, but wouldn't play again until 1990, his last season at Hawthorn. There's a story out there somewhere about him stealing taxi vouchers from AFL house. He wound up at St Kilda. Rob Dickson was known as a Ressies cult hero, a helicopter pilot, reality TV star, and brilliant footy-movie creator. He had a few brilliant seasons for the Hawks Reserves, kicking 63 goals in 1987 and 30 in 1988, the year he finally made his senior debut. He played 17 games for Hawthorn, before moving to Brisbane in 1991 and playing in their Reserves Premiership that year (along with Peter Curran, Rod Lester-Smith, and coached by Rodney Eade). Rob and his sons tragically lost their lives in a car accident in 2009.
David Flintoff had played one senior game in 1983. He wouldn't add to that at Hawthorn, but in 1985 he showed terrific consistency, being named in the best players 14 times. He left Hawthorn after that season, but turned up at Melbourne in 1988, playing against Hawthorn in the Grand Final that year with another ex-Hawks Reserves player in Jamie Duursma.
Son of 1957 finals player Norm, Scott Maginness first played at Hawthorn in 1985. Another to serve a lengthy apprenticeship, he debuted for the seniors in 1988 in round 2 after being named the Hawks best in the Reserves in round 1. He played 131 games for Hawthorn, playing in the back-to-back flags of 1988-89. He was named Best Clubman in 1992 and is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Football Club.
Ray Jencke also began his Hawthorn career in 1985. He would watch the Hawks win 3 Premierships without him before finally playing in the Premiership side of 1991. He debuted in 1986, and won the Most Improved Player Award in 1987, and the Most Serviceable Award in 1990. He played 194 games for Hawthorn, and also played in 3 Night Premierships. He is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Footy Club.
The fat kid from Queensland arrived at Hawthorn in 1985. Jason Dunstall booted 2 goals in his first Reserves outing, which was the round 3 game against Essendon that was brought forward to open the season the week before round 1. When Hawthorn then lost round 1 as well, and Leigh Matthews was injured, it was time to bring in Dunstall for his first game against Melburne in round 2, depsite him not having kicked a goal in the round 1 Reserves game against Geelong. Dunstall kicked 3 goals on debut, and held his place for two more games (single goals each game) before being dropped for round 6. He kicked 2 goals, then 3 the next week. Then in round 8 he booted 6, and another 6 in round 9 to earn another promotion to the seniors. He failed to goal and was dropped again, but responded with 17 goals in the next 4 Reserves games to be recalled again in round 15. He kicked just the one, and was probably set for demotion, but Lethal got deregistered for 4 weeks at this point and JD was the man at full-forward in round 16, and relished the chance, booting 8 goals. He wouldn't play another Reserves game in his career; his accolades listed as follows:
269 senior games, 1,254 goals.
21 Finals, 5 Grand Finals, 4 Premierships (1986, 1988, 1989, 1991)
Hawthorn Captain 1995-1998
Hawthorn B&F 4 times (1988, 1989, 1992, 1993)
Hawthorn leading goalkicker 12 times (record)
Coleman Medalist 3 times (1988, 1989, 1992)
129 Brownlow votes
4-time All Australian
5 Night Premierships
29 Night matches for 116 goals (most goals for Hawthorn)
1985 Encouragement Award
1986 Best Team Player Award
1988 Most Determined Player Award
1990 Most Courageous Player Award
1991 Most Serviceable Player Award
Hawthorn Life Member
Hawthorn and AFL Hall of Fame Member
8 times State of Origin Representative
Simpson Medalist and E.J.Whitten Medalist 1989
AFLPA and AFLMA MVP 1992
Hawthorn Team of the Century Forward Pocket
Hawthorn Ultimate Premiership Team Full Forward
Most goals ever for Hawthorn
Most goals in finals for Hawthorn (78)
Most consecutive matches with a goal for Hawthorn (72)
Most goals in 1 match for Hawthorn (17)
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1986:
With 13 wins and 9 losses, the Hawks Reserves finished the H/A season in 3rd place, amongst 5 teams from 2nd to 6th also on 13 wins. The Hawks had knocked off Footscray in round 22, but lost to them in the Qualifying Final, and again two weeks later in the Prelim, to finish the year 3rd.
Goalkickers:
Best Players:
Robert Handley had been around the club since 1983, and had enjoyed a promising year in 1985, playing senior footy good enough to win the Best First Year Player Award. Chopper played 15 games including the finals series and also played in the Night Premiership that year. He didn't go on with it however, and 1986 found him playing most of the year in the Reserves, kicking goals consistently enough to lead the side in that area. He regressed further in 1987, and left the club a short way into the 1988 season.
Paul Dear joined his brother Greg at the club in 1986. He would take a while to establish himself, with something of a false dawn in 1987 when he played some senior footy including the finals series. Two years in the Reserves followed, before he established himself in the senior side in 1990 and then played a major part in securing Hawthorn the Premiership in 1991, culminating in a Norm Smith performance in that Grand Final. It's worth mentioning his 1988 Reserves season - despite being out of favour with new coach Allan Joyce and not playing a senior game that year, he was named in the best player for the Reserves 17 times, 7 of those as the Hawks' best player - a performance not in any year the best players are available. 'Pumpkin' played 123 games for Hawthorn, won the Most Determined Player Award in 1991 and 1992, played in 3 Night Premierships, and is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Football Club.
Anthony Condon was playing U19s for a good portion of 1986, but by 1987 he was forcing his way into the Hawthorn senior side with outstanding Reserves performances. Still 19, he debuted in round 11, and was famously awarded a Brownlow vote for his effort in round 17 against Collingwood when he came on for the last quarter only and gathered 13 touches. He stalled a fraction in 1988, before becoming a regular in the Hawthorn midfield from 1989. He played in the 1989 and 1991 Premierships as well as the 1991 Night Flag. He jointly won the Most Improved Player Award with Dean Anderson in 1989, the Most Consistent Player Award in 1991 and the Most Determined Player Award in 1994. He played 145 games for Hawthorn, and is a Life Member of the Club.
Dean Anderson's early career followed a similar path to Condon's although he didn't debut until a somewhat surprise selection in round 18, 1988 (he hadn't been in the best players for the Reserves in the preceeding 3 matches). He was dropped after that match, responded with a BOG for the Ressies and was promoted for the next two games. He missed the finals but was a regular senior player the following season, playing in the 1989 Premiership and jointly winning the Most Improved Player Award with Anthony Condon. He had a great 1990 also, winning the Most Consistent Player Award, but was on the fringes in 1991, as Allan Joyce sought a harder edge. He clung on, and played in the 1991 Premiership. He played in the 1991 and 1992 Night Premierships, and at the end of the '92 season he was traded to St Kilda, after 83 games for the Hawks.
Ian Paton had already played his last senior game when the 1986 season began, but he played his heart out for the Reserves, being named in the best players 16 times, and 6 times the Hawks' BOG. 'The General' retired at the end of the season.
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v Carl 15.20 110 19.13 127 Lost -17
2 v Nth 20.13 133 19.14 128 Won 5
3 v Rich 11.15 81 21.13 139 Lost -58
4 v St K 14.16 100 20.15 135 Lost -35
5 v Fitz 13.14 92 24.13 157 Lost -65
6 v Ess 13.9 87 15.21 111 Lost -24
7 v Syd 19.21 135 5.13 43 Won 92
8 v Coll 17.18 120 7.13 55 Won 65
9 v Geel 14.14 98 13.17 95 Won 3
10 v Foots 9.19 73 16.12 108 Lost -35
11 v Melb 21.10 136 9.13 67 Won 69
12 v Carl 11.14 80 24.22 166 Lost -86
13 v Nth 22.20 152 14.16 100 Won 52
14 v Rich 12.17 89 13.15 93 Lost -4
15 v St K 12.12 84 8.16 64 Won 20
16 v Melb 16.18 114 9.20 74 Won 40
17 v Fitz 21.15 141 7.9 51 Won 90
18 v Ess 18.21 129 14.7 91 Won 38
19 v Syd 15.12 102 15.17 107 Lost -5
20 v Coll 27.18 180 19.16 130 Won 50
21 v Geel 23.17 155 7.13 55 Won 100
22 v Foots 12.16 88 7.8 50 Won 38
QF v Foots 9.10 64 14.13 97 Lost -33
SF1 v Melb 17.24 126 12.12 84 Won 42
PF v Foots 10.16 76 15.12 102 Lost -26Goalkickers:
Code:
Handley, Robert 36
Sullivan, David 32
Byrne, Michael 27
Bennett, James 26
Morrissey, James 24
Judge, Ken 23
McGrath, Shane 18
Dear, Paul 17
Ralphsmith, Sean 17
McCarthy, Michael 16
Collins, Andy C. 15
Dickson, Robert 14
Paton, Ian 11
Keeble, Jolyon 10
Browning, Clinton 9
Maginness, Scott 9
Eade, Rodney 8
Greene, Russell 8
Denny, Ian 7
Ellingworth, Roger 7
Wittman, Chris 6
Condon, Anthony 5
Curran, Peter 5
Teal, Robert 5
Anderson, Dean 4
Howard, Glenn 4
Jencke, Ray 4
Abbott, Paul 3
Grummett, MacGregor 3
Morris, Russell 3
Robertson, Colin 3
Allen, Edwin 2
Russo, Peter 2
Dalrymple, Simon 1
Edmonds, M 1
Freene, Guy 1
Kennedy, John 1
Lester-Smith, Rodney 1
Mew, Chris 1
Schwab, Peter 1
Wallace, Terry 1
Code:
Player In best Our BOG
Paton, Ian 16 6
Bennett, James 11
Browning, Clinton 9 3
Ellingworth, Roger 9 2
Wittman, Chris 9 1
Jencke, Ray 8 1
McCarthy, Michael 7
Dear, Paul 6
Judge, Ken 6 1
Collins, Andy C. 5 2
Eade, Rodney 5
Howard, Glenn 5
Morrissey, James 5
Handley, Robert 4
Sullivan, David 4 1
Greene, Russell 3 2
McGrath, Shane 3 2
Ralphsmith, Sean 3 1
Abbott, Paul 2
Byrne, Michael 2
Dickson, Robert 2
Maginness, Scott 2
Morris, Russell 2
Robertson, Colin 2
Schwab, Peter 2 1
Curran, Peter 1
Denny, Ian 1
Lester-Smith, Rodney 1 1
Mew, Chris 1 1
Russo, Peter 1
Teal, Robert 1
Wallace, Terry 1Paul Dear joined his brother Greg at the club in 1986. He would take a while to establish himself, with something of a false dawn in 1987 when he played some senior footy including the finals series. Two years in the Reserves followed, before he established himself in the senior side in 1990 and then played a major part in securing Hawthorn the Premiership in 1991, culminating in a Norm Smith performance in that Grand Final. It's worth mentioning his 1988 Reserves season - despite being out of favour with new coach Allan Joyce and not playing a senior game that year, he was named in the best player for the Reserves 17 times, 7 of those as the Hawks' best player - a performance not in any year the best players are available. 'Pumpkin' played 123 games for Hawthorn, won the Most Determined Player Award in 1991 and 1992, played in 3 Night Premierships, and is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Football Club.
Anthony Condon was playing U19s for a good portion of 1986, but by 1987 he was forcing his way into the Hawthorn senior side with outstanding Reserves performances. Still 19, he debuted in round 11, and was famously awarded a Brownlow vote for his effort in round 17 against Collingwood when he came on for the last quarter only and gathered 13 touches. He stalled a fraction in 1988, before becoming a regular in the Hawthorn midfield from 1989. He played in the 1989 and 1991 Premierships as well as the 1991 Night Flag. He jointly won the Most Improved Player Award with Dean Anderson in 1989, the Most Consistent Player Award in 1991 and the Most Determined Player Award in 1994. He played 145 games for Hawthorn, and is a Life Member of the Club.
Dean Anderson's early career followed a similar path to Condon's although he didn't debut until a somewhat surprise selection in round 18, 1988 (he hadn't been in the best players for the Reserves in the preceeding 3 matches). He was dropped after that match, responded with a BOG for the Ressies and was promoted for the next two games. He missed the finals but was a regular senior player the following season, playing in the 1989 Premiership and jointly winning the Most Improved Player Award with Anthony Condon. He had a great 1990 also, winning the Most Consistent Player Award, but was on the fringes in 1991, as Allan Joyce sought a harder edge. He clung on, and played in the 1991 Premiership. He played in the 1991 and 1992 Night Premierships, and at the end of the '92 season he was traded to St Kilda, after 83 games for the Hawks.
Ian Paton had already played his last senior game when the 1986 season began, but he played his heart out for the Reserves, being named in the best players 16 times, and 6 times the Hawks' BOG. 'The General' retired at the end of the season.
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1987:
15 wins and 7 losses saw the Hawks Reserves finish the H/A season in 2nd place, 3 wins behind leaders Footscray and level on points with 3rd place St Kilda. Unfortunately the Hawks went out in straight sets, for the second time in 4 years, to finish the season 4th.
The side set one hell of a new high score and greatest winning margin in round 7 against Sydney at the SCG. The score of 290 and winning margin of 242 have not been topped since and remain records across the entire Reserves competition. Goals and best players:
Goals: Lester-Smith 10, Anderson 6, Dickson 6, Morrissey 6, James 5, Symonds 3, Butler 2, Ellingworth 2, Bennett 1, P.Dear 1, Ralphsmith 1, Schwab 1, Wittman 1.
Best: Morrissey, Lester-Smith, Dickson, Condon, Pritchard, James.
Goalkickers:
Best Players:
Rob Dickson's 63 goals placed him at the top of the Reserves League Goalkicking for 1987. Matt Bourke's 57 placed him second. He was a skinny 187cm forward with a great pair of hands and a habit of finding the goals. He kicked another 50 for the Ressies in 1988, and another 49 (in just 16 games, with a career best haul of 9) in 1989, the year he finally got his senior chance, a single game at Subiaco. He left the club at the end of the following season after failing to get another senior opportunity.
Taken at pick 65 in the 1986 National Draft, Tony Symonds made his senior debut in the opening round of 1987. A lightly built on-baller, he was dropped for the next match and responded with a BOG for the Reserves and was given another go in the seniors in round 3. Dropped again, he got himself in the Ressie's best player in round 5 and 6, and then by all accounts played in both the Reserves and senior matches in Sydney in round 7, kicking 3 goals for the Reserves in their record score, and booting 1 for the Hawks in their narrow loss to the Swans. It would be his last senior match.
Darrin Pritchard was Hawthorn's first truly successful National Draft Pick. Taken at selection 26 in 1986, he made his debut in round 8, after being named in the best players in 4 of the previous 5 Reserve's games. He played all but one of the remaining H/A game for Hawthorn but was dropped for the start of the finals. Named as one of the Hawks few good players in the Reserves Qualifying Final loss, he was recalled to the senior side for the famous Prelim against Melbourne, but was dropped when the Grand Final side was named. When Dunstall was a late withdrawal, he came into the side. He was named the Best First Year Player in 1987. Pritch played 17 games 1988, but was dropped late in the season. He responded by getting in the best players for three weeks in the Ressies to earn his spot back, and played in the 1988 Premiership. In the off-season after that year he worked hard on his pace and became a star wingman, named All-Australian in 1989 and playing in the 1989 and 1991 Premierships, and becoming famous for continuously hitting Dunstall on the chest with bullet passes. He ended up playing 211 games and kicking 94 goals and winning the Most Determined Player and Most Courageous Player Awards in 1993, and the Best Clubman Award in 1995. He played in the Night Premierships of 1991 and 1992. From Tassie, he is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Footy Club.
Stephen Lawrence was a skilful ruckman from Queensland (with South African heritage). He kicked 5 goals in round 20 of the Reserves in 1987, the only game he shows up on the stats for that year. Perhaps it was a sign of things to come, as 5 goals was what he produced on debut for Hawthorn the following year in round 5, after being named in the best players for the Reserves in 3 of the opening 4 games. He only played the 2 senior games in 1988, and the same the following year, but in 1990 he cemented himself in the senior side, playing all bar 1 game that year and winning the Most Improved Player Award accordingly. When Greg Dear went down with a knee inury in the pre-season of 1991, Lawrence stepped up to another level again to become one of the best ruckmen in the competition that year, and help steer the Hawks to the 1991 Premiership. He never hit those heights again unfortunately, playing on until the end of 1998, accruing 146 games for the Hawks. He played in the 1991 Night Premiership, and is a Life Member of the Hawks.
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
R1 v Carl 16.18 114 18.20 128 Lost -14
R2 v Rich 21.21 147 10.13 73 Won 74
R3 v Coll 20.21 141 9.13 67 Won 74
R4 v Foot 9.5 59 21.16 142 Lost -83
R5 v Melb 20.21 141 16.11 107 Won 34
R6 v Fitz 21.14 140 22.13 145 Lost -5
R7 v Syd 45.20 290 6.12 48 Won 242
R8 v Geel 11.12 78 9.12 66 Won 12
R9 v Ess 22.17 149 12.17 89 Won 60
R10 v StK 5.16 46 9.7 61 Lost -15
R11 v Nth 9.10 64 14.19 103 Lost -39
R12 v Geel 10.17 77 10.11 71 Won 6
R13 v Melb 11.3 69 8.7 55 Won 14
R14 v Carl 14.13 97 12.8 80 Won 17
R15 v Rich 25.20 170 8.13 61 Won 109
R16 v Foot 21.13 139 15.21 111 Won 28
R17 v Coll 16.10 106 21.22 148 Lost -42
R18 v Melb 15.16 106 10.11 71 Won 35
R19 v Fitz 22.9 141 13.14 92 Won 49
R20 v Syd 31.21 207 12.15 87 Won 120
R21 v Ess 16.13 109 6.18 54 Won 55
R22 v Geel 12.18 90 15.14 104 Lost -14
QF v St K 12.14 86 20.9 129 Lost -43
SF1 v Carl 13.12 90 18.17 125 Lost -35The side set one hell of a new high score and greatest winning margin in round 7 against Sydney at the SCG. The score of 290 and winning margin of 242 have not been topped since and remain records across the entire Reserves competition. Goals and best players:
Goals: Lester-Smith 10, Anderson 6, Dickson 6, Morrissey 6, James 5, Symonds 3, Butler 2, Ellingworth 2, Bennett 1, P.Dear 1, Ralphsmith 1, Schwab 1, Wittman 1.
Best: Morrissey, Lester-Smith, Dickson, Condon, Pritchard, James.
Goalkickers:
Code:
Dickson, Robert 63
Bourke, Matthew 57
Symonds, Tony 37
Morrissey, James 24
James, Peter 21
Lester-Smith, Rod 21
Ralphsmith, Sean 19
Dear, Paul 17
Teal, Robert 14
Anderson, Dean 11
Condon, Anthony 11
Dalrymple, Simon 11
Dowling, Brendan 10
Handley, Robert 10
Abbott, Paul 9
Pritchard, Darrin 9
Collins, Andy C. 8
Grummett, MacGregor 8
Butler, Darren 7
Smith, Grant 7
Ellingworth, Roger 6
Bennett, James 5
Lawrence, Stephen 5
Russo, Peter 5
Eade, Rodney 4
Wittman, Chris 4
Sullivan, David 3
Buckenara, Gary 2
Byrne, Michael 2
Greene, Russell 2
Harding, Paul 2
Maginness, Scott 2
Schwab, Peter 1
Code:
Players In best Our BOG
Collins, Andy C. 10 2
Dear, Paul 10 5
Morrissey, James 10 3
Bennett, James 9 1
Abbott, Paul 8 2
Condon, Anthony 8 1
Dickson, Robert 7 1
Symonds, Tony 7 1
Dalrymple, Simon 6
Grummett, MacGregor 6 1
Keeble, Jolyon 6 2
Teal, Robert 6 1
Pritchard, Darrin 5
Ellingworth, Roger 4
Maginness, Scott 4 1
Ralphsmith, Sean 4
Anderson, Dean 3 1
Handley, Robert 3 1
Harding, Paul 3
James, Peter 3
Lester-Smith, Rod 3
Wittman, Chris 3
Buckenara, Gary 2
Greene, Russell 2 1
Bourke, Matthew 1
Eade, Rodney 1
Lawrence, Stephen 1
Russo, Peter 1
Schwab, Peter 1
Smith, Grant 1Taken at pick 65 in the 1986 National Draft, Tony Symonds made his senior debut in the opening round of 1987. A lightly built on-baller, he was dropped for the next match and responded with a BOG for the Reserves and was given another go in the seniors in round 3. Dropped again, he got himself in the Ressie's best player in round 5 and 6, and then by all accounts played in both the Reserves and senior matches in Sydney in round 7, kicking 3 goals for the Reserves in their record score, and booting 1 for the Hawks in their narrow loss to the Swans. It would be his last senior match.
Darrin Pritchard was Hawthorn's first truly successful National Draft Pick. Taken at selection 26 in 1986, he made his debut in round 8, after being named in the best players in 4 of the previous 5 Reserve's games. He played all but one of the remaining H/A game for Hawthorn but was dropped for the start of the finals. Named as one of the Hawks few good players in the Reserves Qualifying Final loss, he was recalled to the senior side for the famous Prelim against Melbourne, but was dropped when the Grand Final side was named. When Dunstall was a late withdrawal, he came into the side. He was named the Best First Year Player in 1987. Pritch played 17 games 1988, but was dropped late in the season. He responded by getting in the best players for three weeks in the Ressies to earn his spot back, and played in the 1988 Premiership. In the off-season after that year he worked hard on his pace and became a star wingman, named All-Australian in 1989 and playing in the 1989 and 1991 Premierships, and becoming famous for continuously hitting Dunstall on the chest with bullet passes. He ended up playing 211 games and kicking 94 goals and winning the Most Determined Player and Most Courageous Player Awards in 1993, and the Best Clubman Award in 1995. He played in the Night Premierships of 1991 and 1992. From Tassie, he is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Footy Club.
Stephen Lawrence was a skilful ruckman from Queensland (with South African heritage). He kicked 5 goals in round 20 of the Reserves in 1987, the only game he shows up on the stats for that year. Perhaps it was a sign of things to come, as 5 goals was what he produced on debut for Hawthorn the following year in round 5, after being named in the best players for the Reserves in 3 of the opening 4 games. He only played the 2 senior games in 1988, and the same the following year, but in 1990 he cemented himself in the senior side, playing all bar 1 game that year and winning the Most Improved Player Award accordingly. When Greg Dear went down with a knee inury in the pre-season of 1991, Lawrence stepped up to another level again to become one of the best ruckmen in the competition that year, and help steer the Hawks to the 1991 Premiership. He never hit those heights again unfortunately, playing on until the end of 1998, accruing 146 games for the Hawks. He played in the 1991 Night Premiership, and is a Life Member of the Hawks.
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1988:
Going out in 'straight sets' was becoming a bad habit for the Hawks Ressies. 1988 was the third time in 5 years it had happened. A 15-7 H/A season resulted in a 3rd place finish, followed by an annihilation in the Qualifying Final and a narrow loss in the 1st Semi, meant the Hawks finished the year 4th.
Goalkickers:
Best Players:
Paul Hudson came up from Tassie in 1988 (with his Dad Peter, who was joinging the board). Paul was a smallish half-forward, who could take a grab and had superb goal-sense. He plugged through 54 goals for the Reserves - including a couple of bags of 6 - up to round 19 before a ruptured spleen ended his year. He won the Reserves Best player award that year and vowed not to win another. He had a patchy year with injury in 1989, but in 1990 he played 7 games for the seniors, before a break-out year in 1991 saw him win the Most Improved Player Award and play in the 1991 Premiership, kicking 62 goals for the year. He played 134 games and kicked 264 goals before leaving the club at the end of 1996, unhappy to be left out of the side for the final. He'd played in the 1991 and 1992 Night Premierships, winning the Michael Tuck Medal as BOG in the latter. He also won the Best Clubman Award in 1994.
Matthew Bourke followed up his 57 goals in 1987 with another 50 in 1988, and Sean Ralphsmith had a good season with 43, including a bag of 7 in round 20. Paul Dear, despite being out of favour with new coach Allan Joyce, displayed exeptional form to be named in the best players 17 times, 7 as Hawthorn's best on ground.
Andrew Gowers began at Hawthorn in 1988. A skinny kid from Xavier, he showed good form in the first 7 games for the Reserves, and made his senior debut in round 8, playing 3 games before another stint in the Reserves. His good form there earned him another 6 senior games later in the season but he was not selected for the finals. He only managed 3 senior games in each of 1989 and 1990. In 1991, he played 2 early games (rounds 2 and 3) before being dropped again. He showed only moderate form in the Ressies, before in round 22, a BOG suddenly put him in the selectors minds and he played the rest of the season in the seniors, including the finals series where he was a revelation on the wing, playing in the Premiership side in just his 22nd game. He was a permanent fixture in the side from then on, playing in the Night Premiership side of 1992 and winning the Most Improved Player Award that year and the Most Serviceable Award in 1993. He left the club at the end of 1994, traded to Brisbane for the pick that landed Daniel Harford.
Andrew Demetriou joined Hawthorn in 1988 after 103 games for North Melbourne (including one that it's doubtful he remembers much about, the 1982 1st Semi - look it up if you don't know what I mean). He played in 3 senior wins mid-season, averaged 23 possessions, but didn't get another look-in. He played on in 1989, being named in the best players for the Ressies 11 times, but did not play senior footy again. Of course he runs the AFL now.
Paul Cooper was a dour back pocket, who's Reserve form increased over a couple of years before he got a chance in early 1990 to play senior footy and grabbed it, winning the Best First Year Player Award. Although he missed out on the 1991 Premiership, he did play in the 1992 Night Flag and won the Most Consistent Player Award in 1993. In all he played 81 games for the Hawks.
I'll mention Scott Teal here purely because I knew him as a kid and took an interest in his career. The younger brother of Robert, who was a Hawks Reserves player from 1985 to 1988 before moving to Sydney for some senior footy, Scott was a tall player who could take a great mark (he took the best specky I've ever seen live, on the wing at the Western Oval in round 14). Once described by Allan Jeans as "the best schoolboy talent in the country," Scotty perhaps lacked the motivation to fullfill that potential, but carved out a decent career in the ammos after finishing with the Hawks at the end of 1990.
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v Carl 11.12 78 17.17 119 Lost -41
2 v Rich 10.11 71 11.13 79 Lost -8
3 v Syd 22.13 145 10.11 71 Won 74
4 v Fitz 23.12 150 13.21 99 Won 51
5 v Nth 18.10 118 31.20 206 Lost -88
6 v Coll 19.17 131 13.17 95 Won 36
7 v Melb 25.21 171 15.17 107 Won 64
8 v Syd 17.19 121 8.15 63 Won 58
9 v Foot 16.9 105 12.17 89 Won 16
10 v StK 26.24 180 16.11 107 Won 73
11 v Ess 21.14 140 10.14 74 Won 66
12 v Coll 11.31 97 10.11 71 Won 26
13 v Geel 14.13 97 10.12 72 Won 25
14 v Foot 15.18 108 10.20 80 Won 28
15 v Geel 6.12 48 7.13 55 Lost -7
16 v Syd 19.21 135 11.11 77 Won 58
17 v Melb 15.20 110 14.14 98 Won 12
18 v Ess 10.13 73 19.7 121 Lost -48
19 v Nth 25.12 162 16.12 108 Won 54
20 v Geel 24.15 159 16.16 112 Won 47
21 v StK 16.13 109 19.12 126 Lost -17
22 v Nth 20.12 132 20.21 141 Lost -9
QF v Nth 6.7 43 26.22 178 Lost -135
SF1 v Ess 13.10 88 13.12 90 Lost -2Goalkickers:
Code:
Hudson, Paul 54
Bourke, Matthew 50
Ralphsmith, Sean 43
Dickson, Robert 30
Teal, Robert 24
Condon, Anthony 18
Lawrence, Stephen 12
Anderson, Dean 11
Demetriou, Andrew 11
Hopkins, Steven 11
Russo, Peter 11
Curran, Peter 9
Gowers, Andrew 9
Cummings, Robert 8
Bingham, Lawrence 7
Dear, Paul 7
Harding, Paul 7
Kennedy, John 7
Loveridge, Richard 7
Pritchard, Darrin 7
Harkins, Steven 6
Reeves, Glen 6
Berry, Domenic 5
Jencke, Ray 5
Morrissey, James 4
Teal, Scott 4
Collins, Andrew 3
Cooper, Paul 3
Gahan, Jon 3
Kirkwood, Scott 3
Wicks, Richard 3
Handley, Robert 2
Keeble, Jolyon 2
Maginness, Scott 2
Origlasso, John 2
Boulton, Darren 1
Duffy, Ross 1
Greene, Russell 1
Hammond, Richard 1
Morris, Russell 1
Nunn, Peter 1
Code:
Player In best Our BOG
Dear, Paul 17 7
Anderson, Dean 11 1
Demetriou, Andrew 10 1
Cooper, Paul 9 2
Gowers, Andrew 7 1
Morris, Russell 7
Condon, Anthony 6 1
Hopkins, Steven 6
Hudson, Paul 6
Ralphsmith, Sean 6 1
Russo, Peter 6 3
Teal, Robert 6
Pritchard, Darrin 5 1
Lawrence, Stephen 4 1
Loveridge, Richard 4 1
Morrissey, James 4
Reeves, Glen 4 1
Cummings, Robert 3 1
Dickson, Robert 3
Kennedy, John 3
Maginness, Scott 3 1
Bourke, Matthew 2
Jencke, Ray 2
Bingham, Lawrence 1
Collins, Andrew 1
Curran, Peter 1 1
Greene, Russell 1
Harding, Paul 1
Teal, Scott 1
Wicks, Richard 1Matthew Bourke followed up his 57 goals in 1987 with another 50 in 1988, and Sean Ralphsmith had a good season with 43, including a bag of 7 in round 20. Paul Dear, despite being out of favour with new coach Allan Joyce, displayed exeptional form to be named in the best players 17 times, 7 as Hawthorn's best on ground.
Andrew Gowers began at Hawthorn in 1988. A skinny kid from Xavier, he showed good form in the first 7 games for the Reserves, and made his senior debut in round 8, playing 3 games before another stint in the Reserves. His good form there earned him another 6 senior games later in the season but he was not selected for the finals. He only managed 3 senior games in each of 1989 and 1990. In 1991, he played 2 early games (rounds 2 and 3) before being dropped again. He showed only moderate form in the Ressies, before in round 22, a BOG suddenly put him in the selectors minds and he played the rest of the season in the seniors, including the finals series where he was a revelation on the wing, playing in the Premiership side in just his 22nd game. He was a permanent fixture in the side from then on, playing in the Night Premiership side of 1992 and winning the Most Improved Player Award that year and the Most Serviceable Award in 1993. He left the club at the end of 1994, traded to Brisbane for the pick that landed Daniel Harford.
Andrew Demetriou joined Hawthorn in 1988 after 103 games for North Melbourne (including one that it's doubtful he remembers much about, the 1982 1st Semi - look it up if you don't know what I mean). He played in 3 senior wins mid-season, averaged 23 possessions, but didn't get another look-in. He played on in 1989, being named in the best players for the Ressies 11 times, but did not play senior footy again. Of course he runs the AFL now.
Paul Cooper was a dour back pocket, who's Reserve form increased over a couple of years before he got a chance in early 1990 to play senior footy and grabbed it, winning the Best First Year Player Award. Although he missed out on the 1991 Premiership, he did play in the 1992 Night Flag and won the Most Consistent Player Award in 1993. In all he played 81 games for the Hawks.
I'll mention Scott Teal here purely because I knew him as a kid and took an interest in his career. The younger brother of Robert, who was a Hawks Reserves player from 1985 to 1988 before moving to Sydney for some senior footy, Scott was a tall player who could take a great mark (he took the best specky I've ever seen live, on the wing at the Western Oval in round 14). Once described by Allan Jeans as "the best schoolboy talent in the country," Scotty perhaps lacked the motivation to fullfill that potential, but carved out a decent career in the ammos after finishing with the Hawks at the end of 1990.
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- #117
1989:
In 1989 the Reserves Competition expanded to 13 teams, to accommodate the addition of the Brisbane Bears Reserves, thus creating the need for a bye. The Hawks Ressies finished the season with 9 wins, 10 losses and a draw, to miss the finals for the first time in 8 years, finishing 8th.
Goalkickers:
Best Players:
Matthew Bourke's 49 goals included a haul of seven in round 1, six in round 4, and nine in round 7.
Jamie Bond was taken with pick 78 in the 1988 National Draft. The Hawks obtained that pick from Sydney for Rudi Mandemaker. Bond was a tough CHF, who just played a couple of seasons before leaving for Fitzroy to play some senior footy. He went back to Maryborough to become one of their greatest players and he's the uncle of draft hopeful Jake Stringer.
Alex McDonald was taken by the Hawks at pick 1 in the 1988 National Draft, traded from St Kilda for Paul Harding, Peter Russo and Robert Handley. McDonald was a bit of a tweener, who struggled at the Hawks for 6 seasons before being traded to Collingwood at the end of 1995 with Scott Crow for pick 54 (Adam Ansell). He played 46 games for the Hawks, and played in the 1991 and 1992 Night Premierships.
Greg Madigan was an athletic tall, who played some footy in the ruck and in the key posts. He was the Reserves best player in round 8, and in the bests again in round 9. The Ressies had the bye in round 10 but Madigan had impressed enough to get his senior debut in round 11 against Melbourne. He played 4 games before being dropped. After getting in the best players for the Reserves in round 19, he was elevated again for one match, but didn't appear in the best players again. Of course we all know he was famously selected as a 19-year old veteran of 5 games for the 1989 Grand Final to replace the suspended Peter Schwab. Mad Dog Madigan won the Best First Year Player Award in 1989, the Best Clubman Award in 1991, and went on to play 40 games for the Hawks, and also play in the 1992 Night Premiership.
After starring in 1988, Tony Hall had missed most of the pre-season so started round 1 of 1989 in the Reserves. He was BOG, collecting 40+ possessions and not surprisingly was promptly promoted to the seniors. A super skilled player capable of playing midfield, tall or small forward, he played 97 games for the Hawks and kicked 144 goals. He played in the 1988 Premiership and won the Best First Year Player Award and making All Australian that year (4th in the Brownlow). He missed the 1989 Flag because of his knee injury, but returned to play in the 1991 victory. Hall played in the 1991 and 1992 Night Premierships, winning the Most Serviceable Award in 1992. At the end of 1993 he left the Club for Adelaide, traded for pick 17 (whch was turned into Angelo Lekkas).
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v Coll 17.24 126 15.7 97 Won 29
2 v Nth 11.16 82 18.22 130 Lost -48
3 v Ess 13.23 101 12.16 88 Won 13
4 v Rich 21.21 147 21.6 132 Won 15
5 v Carl 15.13 103 20.18 138 Lost -35
6 v Geel 17.19 121 17.16 118 Won 3
7 v Fitz 25.10 160 13.18 96 Won 64
8 v Syd 11.14 80 16.6 102 Lost -22
9 v Foots 10.5 65 18.16 124 Lost -59
10 v BYE
11 v Melb 8.7 55 9.13 67 Lost -12
12 v St K 11.15 81 10.21 81 Drawn 0
13 v Bris 14.11 95 9.10 64 Won 31
14 v BYE
15 v Rich 15.9 99 18.8 116 Lost -17
16 v Coll 8.10 58 17.16 118 Lost -60
17 v Nth 11.9 75 24.16 160 Lost -85
18 v Carl 13.11 89 17.12 114 Lost -25
19 v Melb 10.13 73 5.11 41 Won 32
20 v Bris 18.13 121 14.11 95 Won 26
21 v Foots 10.6 66 25.13 163 Lost -97
22 v St K 28.24 192 12.20 92 Won 100Goalkickers:
Code:
Bourke, Matthew 49
Bond, Jamie 23
Gowers, Andrew 21
Ralphsmith, Sean 19
Hudson, Paul 18
Dickson, Robert 16
Demetriou, Andrew 13
Morris, Russell 11
Curran, Peter 10
Loveridge, Richard 9
Beardsley, Richard 8
Bingham, Lawrence 8
Cummings, Robert 8
Hopkins, Steven 8
Lawrence, Stephen 8
Williams, Grant 8
Teal, Scott 7
Jencke, Ray 6
McDonald, Alex 6
Dear, Paul 4
Johnston, Michael 4
Martin, Chris 3
Wicks, Richard 3
Anderson, Dean 2
Cooper, Paul 2
Penny, Matthew 2
Polkinghorne, John 2
Wulf, Stuart 2
Hall, Tony 1
Kennedy, John 1
Madigan, Greg 1
McGrath, Justin 1
Mew, Chris 1
Wittman, Chris 1
Code:
Played In best Our BOG
Demetriou, Andrew 11 2
Dear, Paul 9 1
Loveridge, Richard 9 3
Bingham, Lawrence 8
Cooper, Paul 8 3
Bourke, Matthew 7 2
Jencke, Ray 7 1
Bond, Jamie 5 1
McDonald, Alex 5 1
Dickson, Robert 4 1
Gowers, Andrew 4 1
Hudson, Paul 4
Madigan, Greg 4 1
Cummings, Robert 3
Curran, Peter 3
Hammond, Richard 3
Morris, Russell 3
Ralphsmith, Sean 3
Beardsley, Richard 2
Lawrence, Stephen 2
Mew, Chris 2
Teal, Scott 2
Wittman, Chris 2 1
Anderson, Dean 1
Hall, Tony 1 1
Hopkins, Steven 1
Kennedy, John 1 1
Polkinghorne, John 1
Wulf, Stuart 1Jamie Bond was taken with pick 78 in the 1988 National Draft. The Hawks obtained that pick from Sydney for Rudi Mandemaker. Bond was a tough CHF, who just played a couple of seasons before leaving for Fitzroy to play some senior footy. He went back to Maryborough to become one of their greatest players and he's the uncle of draft hopeful Jake Stringer.
Alex McDonald was taken by the Hawks at pick 1 in the 1988 National Draft, traded from St Kilda for Paul Harding, Peter Russo and Robert Handley. McDonald was a bit of a tweener, who struggled at the Hawks for 6 seasons before being traded to Collingwood at the end of 1995 with Scott Crow for pick 54 (Adam Ansell). He played 46 games for the Hawks, and played in the 1991 and 1992 Night Premierships.
Greg Madigan was an athletic tall, who played some footy in the ruck and in the key posts. He was the Reserves best player in round 8, and in the bests again in round 9. The Ressies had the bye in round 10 but Madigan had impressed enough to get his senior debut in round 11 against Melbourne. He played 4 games before being dropped. After getting in the best players for the Reserves in round 19, he was elevated again for one match, but didn't appear in the best players again. Of course we all know he was famously selected as a 19-year old veteran of 5 games for the 1989 Grand Final to replace the suspended Peter Schwab. Mad Dog Madigan won the Best First Year Player Award in 1989, the Best Clubman Award in 1991, and went on to play 40 games for the Hawks, and also play in the 1992 Night Premiership.
After starring in 1988, Tony Hall had missed most of the pre-season so started round 1 of 1989 in the Reserves. He was BOG, collecting 40+ possessions and not surprisingly was promptly promoted to the seniors. A super skilled player capable of playing midfield, tall or small forward, he played 97 games for the Hawks and kicked 144 goals. He played in the 1988 Premiership and won the Best First Year Player Award and making All Australian that year (4th in the Brownlow). He missed the 1989 Flag because of his knee injury, but returned to play in the 1991 victory. Hall played in the 1991 and 1992 Night Premierships, winning the Most Serviceable Award in 1992. At the end of 1993 he left the Club for Adelaide, traded for pick 17 (whch was turned into Angelo Lekkas).
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1990:
In perhaps a sign of things to come for the senior side, the wheels fell off the Hawks Reserves around the turn of the decade. With an 8 and 12 record, the Ressies finished 11th of 13 in 1990. Round 5 v Nth was the side's worst loss since 1948, and is still the highest score conceded by the Hawks Reserves.
Goalkickers:
Best Players:
Hawthorn drafted Ben Allan with its first selection in the 1989 draft, taking him with pick 14. An on-baller, he got himself named in the best players in 4 of the first 6 Reserves games, and was rewarded with a senior debut in round 7. He played a couple of games and was then dropped. He played four more games that year, before seriously stepping it up a notch to win the Best and Fairest for Hawthorn in the Premiership year of 1991. He won the Most Courageous Award in 1992, and won All-Australian selection in 1993 and 1994. He played in the Night Premiership sides of 1991 and 1992. At the end of 1994 he left Hawthorn after 98 games to be the inaugural captain of the Dockers.
Tony Wilson never played a senior game for Hawthorn, but he became well known as a breakfast presenter on 3RRR and for writing the satirical book 'Players' sending up The Footy Show. He played a few Reserves games in 1990 and 1992.
Small ball-magnet Glenn Nugent began at the Hawks in 1990, and his form for the Reserves was too good to ignore. He was named in the best players 9 times in the 13 weeks leading up to his senior debut in round 16. Only coming on for the second half, he gathered 21 possessions and kicked 2 goals. Unfortunately for him though, he ended up a mainstay of the Reserves, only managing 24 senior games over 5 seasons, before eventually being traded to St Kilda. He did play in the 1992 Night Premiership however.
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v Geel 8.14 62 29.18 192 Lost -130
2 v Ess 20.21 141 18.12 120 Won 21
3 v Rich 19.25 139 12.18 90 Won 49
4 v Bris 3.12 30 7.9 51 Lost -21
5 v Nth 10.10 70 35.14 224 Lost -154
6 v StK 7.16 58 20.14 134 Lost -76
7 v Coll 21.10 136 15.13 103 Won 33
8 v Carl 12.10 82 23.17 155 Lost -73
9 v Melb 7.11 53 19.17 131 Lost -78
10 v Fitz 16.12 108 15.15 105 Won 3
11 v Syd 18.17 125 10.11 71 Won 54
12 v BYE
13 v Foot 7.19 61 14.17 101 Lost -40
14 v Geel 22.15 147 14.9 93 Won 54
15 v Ess 14.17 101 28.16 184 Lost -83
16 v Rich 13.19 97 12.9 81 Won 16
17 v Bris 17.11 113 17.20 122 Lost -9
18 v BYE
19 v StK 24.22 166 6.3 39 Won 127
20 v Coll 7.17 59 18.16 124 Lost -65
21 v Carl 5.16 46 23.14 152 Lost -106
22 v Melb 10.9 69 20.13 133 Lost -64Goalkickers:
Code:
Hudson, Paul 28
Curran, Peter 26
Nugent, Glenn 21
McDonald, Alex 18
Ralphsmith, Sean 17
Bourke, Matthew 15
Morris, Russell 15
Dickson, Robert 14
Johnston, Michael 13
Allan, Ben 9
Abbott, Paul 8
Teal, Scott 7
Williams, Grant 7
Schwab, Peter 6
Bond, Jamie 5
Fleming, Dale 5
Sheehan, Dion 5
Stephens, Jason 5
Gibson, Jason 4
Hall, Tony 4
Buckenara, Gary 3
Gowers, Andrew 3
Keeble, Jolyon 3
McGrath, Justin 3
Moloney, Stephen 3
Byers, Steven 2
Wittman, Chris 2
Bingham, Lawrence 1
Condon, Anthony 1
Jencke, Ray 1
Lodge, Peter 1
Madigan, Greg 1
Origlasso, John 1
Rhook, Dion 1
Sharp, Chris 1
Wilson, Tony 1
Code:
Players In best Our BOG
Nugent, Glenn 11 1
Abbott, Paul 7
Allan, Ben 7 2
Hudson, Paul 7 4
McDonald, Alex 7
Schwab, Peter 7 1
Bingham, Lawrence 6 3
Curran, Peter 5 1
Origlasso, John 5 2
Bourke, Matthew 4
Johnston, Michael 4
Madigan, Greg 4 2
Ralphsmith, Sean 4
Buckenara, Gary 3
Cooper, Paul 3 2
Dear, Greg 3
Hopkins, Steven 3 1
Maginness, Scott 2
McGrath, Justin 2 1
Moloney, Stephen 2
Morris, Russell 2
Sheehan, Dion 2
Teal, Scott 2
Burke, Alistair 1
Dickson, Robert 1
Hall, Tony 1
Jencke, Ray 1
Kidgell, ian 1
Lawrence, Stephen 1
Stephens, Jason 1
Wittman, Chris 1Tony Wilson never played a senior game for Hawthorn, but he became well known as a breakfast presenter on 3RRR and for writing the satirical book 'Players' sending up The Footy Show. He played a few Reserves games in 1990 and 1992.
Small ball-magnet Glenn Nugent began at the Hawks in 1990, and his form for the Reserves was too good to ignore. He was named in the best players 9 times in the 13 weeks leading up to his senior debut in round 16. Only coming on for the second half, he gathered 21 possessions and kicked 2 goals. Unfortunately for him though, he ended up a mainstay of the Reserves, only managing 24 senior games over 5 seasons, before eventually being traded to St Kilda. He did play in the 1992 Night Premiership however.
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I'll just reiterate if you've got any thoughts/memories of any of these blokes showing up here, please go ahead and post them. We're at a stage now where people must remember some of them.
In any case, if through nothing else but sheer bloody mindedness, I'm going to finish this I swear.
In any case, if through nothing else but sheer bloody mindedness, I'm going to finish this I swear.
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1991:
The comp went to a top six finals series, but unfortunately the Hawks Reserves, with 12 wins and 10 losses, finished 7th of the 13 teams on the ladder, missing the finals on percentage despite winning their last 6 matches.
Goalkickers:
Best Players:
Dominic Berry was a 198cm full forward who won the Reserves Comp goalkicking with his 70 majors, 68 of them coming in his last 16 matches. His haul included a career-best bag of nine in round 10, and a seven in round 20, as well as 2 bags of 6. He followed it up in 1992 with 58 goals, and earned his senior debut in round 14 against West Coast. Goalless, it would be the only game of his career.
Willie Rioli was first indigenous player since on our list since Percy Cummings in 1964/5. Taken at pick 48 in the 1990 draft, he didn't play senior football, but he did kick 20 goals for the Ressies in his only season at Hawthorn.
Greg Whittlesea was 27 when he arrived at Hawthorn in 1991. The Hawks had selected him at pick 20 in the pre-seasn draft of 1989, on the back of his All-Australian, Magarey Medal winning 1988 season. He didn't make much of an impact, at home at Reserves level but playing just 4 senior games in 1991, and none in 1992 before returning to SA.
Taken by Hawthorn with pick 42 in 1989, Matthew Robran delayed his arrival at Hawthorn until 1991. A lanky tall player, he played in the seniors in the opening round, but hurt his knee and was out for 6 weeks. He returned via the Reserves, named in the best players in round 8 on his way to a return to the seniors for the next 4 rounds. Later in the season his Reserves form was strong enough for him to be called into the senior side for the 2nd Semi Final against Geelong, replacing the injured Dermott Brereton. He was dropped when Derm returned for the Grand Final. Homesick, Robran stood out of football in 1992, before joining the Crows in 1993 and having a pretty good career there.
John Barnett is an odd little story. He was a small forward, signed outside the draft at a very young age while playing junior footy at Endeavour Hills (where he reportedly kicked 36 goals in one match). He was playing for Hawthorn's U19s at age 15 in 1991 after apparently playing for Hawthorn in the Little League only 3 years earlier. He failed to impact at Hawthorn, although he did play in the 1992 Night Series, and was equal leading goalkicker for the Hawks Reserves in 1993 with 32. At the end of that year he was traded to North for the pick used to obtain Rayden Tallis. He played 6 games at North before being traded to Collingwood where he played 8 games in 1997.
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v Nth 11.7 73 17.10 112 Lost -39
2 v Syd 19.13 127 12.22 94 Won 33
3 v Rich 15.19 109 19.9 123 Lost -14
4 v BYE
5 v Foot 14.16 100 11.12 78 Won 22
6 v Fitz 11.19 85 19.13 127 Lost -42
7 v Nth 10.18 78 22.19 151 Lost -73
8 v Carl 11.4 70 16.9 105 Lost -35
9 v Ess 18.18 126 19.14 128 Lost -2
10 v Coll 29.10 184 13.11 89 Won 95
11 v StK 23.14 152 10.20 80 Won 72
12 v Geel 9.16 70 12.13 85 Lost -15
13 v Bris 3.12 30 14.15 99 Lost -69
14 v Melb 15.14 104 10.9 69 Won 35
15 v Nth 24.20 164 19.13 127 Won 37
16 v Melb 17.9 111 20.10 130 Lost -19
17 v Syd 15.16 106 22.14 146 Lost -40
18 v Rich 14.16 100 10.12 72 Won 28
19 v BYE
20 v Foot 20.12 132 6.11 47 Won 85
21 v Fitz 19.10 124 9.4 58 Won 66
22 v StK 15.14 104 10.16 76 Won 28
23 v Carl 17.14 116 17.6 108 Won 8
24 v Ess 18.21 129 8.9 57 Won 72Goalkickers:
Code:
Berry, Domenic 70
Fleming, Dale 27
Abbott, Paul 25
Johnston, Michael 23
Rioli, Willie 20
Gowers, Andrew 18
Nugent, Glenn 18
Kennedy, John 15
McDonald, Alex 14
Stephens, Jason 13
Whittlesea, Greg 12
Hart, Ross 10
Barnett, John 7
DiPierdomenico, Robert 7
Schwab, Peter 7
Young, Matthew 7
Bingham, Lawrence 6
Morrissey, James 6
Wynd, Stuart 6
Cooper, Paul 4
Makris, Damian 4
Maginness, Scott 3
McLeod, Mark 3
Weeding, Jamie 3
Ballans, Shaun 2
Cameron, Martin 2
Lucas, David 2
Moloney, Stephen 2
Anderson, Dean 1
Burke, Alistair 1
Kavanagh, Mike 1
Madigan, Greg 1
Palmer, Simon 1
Paynter, Tony 1
Read, Brad 1
Ryan, Michael 1
Sheehan, Dion 1
Stoney, Damian 1
Wittman, Chris 1
Code:
Players In best Our BOG
Whittlesea, Greg 13 3
Abbott, Paul 11 2
Schwab, Peter 10
Berry, Domenic 9 1
Cooper, Paul 9 3
McLeod, Mark 9 2
Nugent, Glenn 6 1
DiPierdomenico, Robert 5 1
Kennedy, John 5 2
Robran, Matthew 5
Wynd, Stuart 5 1
Bingham, Lawrence 4 1
Fleming, Dale 4
Sheehan, Dion 4 1
Gowers, Andrew 3 1
Maginness, Scott 3 1
McDonald, Alex 3
Morrissey, James 3 1
Cameron, Martin 2
Chiron, ? 2
Hart, Ross 2
Johnston, Michael 2
Madigan, Greg 2
Rioli, Willie 2
Barnett, John 1
Burke, Alistair 1
Condon, Anthony 1
Moloney, Stephen 1
Ryan, Michael 1
Stephens, Jason 1 1
Stoney, Damian 1
Wittman, Chris 1
Young, Matthew 1Willie Rioli was first indigenous player since on our list since Percy Cummings in 1964/5. Taken at pick 48 in the 1990 draft, he didn't play senior football, but he did kick 20 goals for the Ressies in his only season at Hawthorn.
Greg Whittlesea was 27 when he arrived at Hawthorn in 1991. The Hawks had selected him at pick 20 in the pre-seasn draft of 1989, on the back of his All-Australian, Magarey Medal winning 1988 season. He didn't make much of an impact, at home at Reserves level but playing just 4 senior games in 1991, and none in 1992 before returning to SA.
Taken by Hawthorn with pick 42 in 1989, Matthew Robran delayed his arrival at Hawthorn until 1991. A lanky tall player, he played in the seniors in the opening round, but hurt his knee and was out for 6 weeks. He returned via the Reserves, named in the best players in round 8 on his way to a return to the seniors for the next 4 rounds. Later in the season his Reserves form was strong enough for him to be called into the senior side for the 2nd Semi Final against Geelong, replacing the injured Dermott Brereton. He was dropped when Derm returned for the Grand Final. Homesick, Robran stood out of football in 1992, before joining the Crows in 1993 and having a pretty good career there.
John Barnett is an odd little story. He was a small forward, signed outside the draft at a very young age while playing junior footy at Endeavour Hills (where he reportedly kicked 36 goals in one match). He was playing for Hawthorn's U19s at age 15 in 1991 after apparently playing for Hawthorn in the Little League only 3 years earlier. He failed to impact at Hawthorn, although he did play in the 1992 Night Series, and was equal leading goalkicker for the Hawks Reserves in 1993 with 32. At the end of that year he was traded to North for the pick used to obtain Rayden Tallis. He played 6 games at North before being traded to Collingwood where he played 8 games in 1997.
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OK I was a teenager then and occassionally went early to games to catch the Ressies.
From what I remember.
Tony Wilson was Ray Wilson's son, I remember when he was on the ABCs 'Race Around the World' documentary series thingy flashing his Dad's footy card. Before that though I clearly remember watching him play in an under 19s finals game - he was playing centre half forward and I thought he looked ok. Rhook and Sheahan were other players I remember from that game.
You haven't mentioned Michael Johnston (ruck rover from Leongatha?) and Lawrence Bingham (ruckman) who both played a handful of senior games - but maybe that is coming.
Grant Williams (Tasmanian) ended up playing a few games for Melbourne.
Jason Stephens was a rover who I thought wasn't bad but never made it. John Origlasso was a full back who seemed to be around for a long time.
Keep up the good work Stemline!
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Cheers mate! I certainly won't get around to mentioning every player who played some senior footy. Please add any memories you have!
I didn't realise, or had forgotten, that Tony Wilson was Ray's son. Good stuff.
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1992:
With 9 wins, 12 losses and a draw, the Hawks Reserves of 1992 finished 8th of 13.
Goalkickers:
Best Players:
Phillip Murton was a slightly built running type who had played for the Hawks' U19s in 1991. In 1992 he stepped it up to Reserves level and was quite at home, being named in the best players 14 times, including 10 times in the first 12 games, to earn a senior debut in round 14. He played 4 senior games that season, but missed the entire 1993 season with a broken leg. He started 1994 in the seniors, playing the first 3 games, but spent the rest of the year in the Ressies and left the club at the end of the season.
At the end of 1991 the Hawks traded pick 64 to Fitzroy in return for Tasmanian tall Jason Taylor. Taylor had been picked at number 11 by the Roys in the 1989 draft but only played 7 games there. He slotted straight into the Hawthorn senior side and played some good footy, playing 20 senior games and winning the Best First Year Player Award. He fell away in 1993, but returned to top form in 1994, becoming an important player in the Hawks' forward structure and winning the Most Serviceable Player Award. He was a senior player through to 1996, but when the side finally found some mid-season form, his went backwards and he found himself out of the side in the second half of that year, and then delisted and picked up by Collingwood at season's end.
Another Taylor, Richard, also started at Hawthorn in 1992. He was selected with pick 39 in the 1991 draft. A small rover, his BOG for the Ressies in round 19 saw him elevated to the senior side for his debut in the utopian 160-point demolition of Essendon in round 20, in which he contributed 3 goals. He won the 1992 Encouragement Award, which was perhaps a clue as to what was to come as he did his knee (for the second time of his career) late in 1993 and was delisted after having only added 2 more senior games that year. Come the 1995 pre-season draft, Hawthorn were pipped for Dermott Brereton by Collingwood, so re-drafted Taylor. He settled into the side, to play 108 games over 6 further seasons, picking up the Most improved Player Award in 1996, the Most Determined Player Award in 1997, the Most Courageous Player Award in 1998, and playing in the 1999 Night Premiership side.
Tall defender Mark Graham first played for the Hawks Reserves in 1992, and would be the last player to debut for Hawthorn without being drafted or traded for. Early in 1993, a decent game in round 5 for the Reserves was followed by his senior debut in round 6 against Adelaide at Football Park. He sat the entire game on the bench, and didn't get another look-in that year. When he didn't get a go in any of the pre-season matches in 1994, things weren't looking great for him, but come the season proper he was named in the the Reserve's best players in 2 of the first 3 games, including being named the Hawks' best in round 3. Coupled with the fact the senior side had been slaughtered the last two weeks, it was enough to be given a senior berth in round 4, especially in the absence of the injured Chris Langford. Graham matched up on Steve Kernahan all day and wasn't completely disgraced, considering the hiding Hawthorn received that day. Heebie didn't look back and became a hugely important member of the side, winning the Most Improved Award in 1994, the Best Clubman and Most Serviceable Award in 1996, the Most Consistent Player Award in 1997, the Most Determined Award in 1998, the Best Clubman again in 1999, and the Most Serviceable Player Award again in 2002. He was a member of the 1999 Night Premiership side, and played a total of 223 games for the Hawks - unfortunately the most Hawthorn games without a Premiership - and is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Football Club.
Shane Crawford was taken with pick 13 in the 1991 draft. He kicked 10 goals and got in the Reserves best players 3 times in 1992, but would never play 2nds footy again. Making his senior debut in round 1 of 1993, Crawf would become a Hawthorn champion, playing 305 games and slotting 224 goals. His accomplishments:
Hawthorn's first ever Rising Star Nomination in round 2, 1993
Won the Best First Year Player Award in 1993
Won the Most Consistent Player Award in 1994 and 1995
Won the Best Team Player Award in 1996
4 times All Australian selection - 1996, 1998, 1999 and 2002
4 times Hawthorn Best and Fairest Winner - 1998, 1999, 2002, 2003
Jesaulenko Medalist 1998
Brownlow Medal winner 1999
159 Brownlow Votes - 2nd at Hawthorn to Leigh Matthews
Hawthorn Captain 6 years - 1999 to 2004
Captain of 1999 Night Premiership side
AFLPA and AFMA MVP 1999
Member HFC Ultimate Premiership Team (wing)
Hawthorn Football Club Life Member
AFL Hall of Fame Member
Member of the 2008 Hawthorn Premiership side
Champion Hawthorn Footballer - That's what I'm talking about!!
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v Geel 16.7 103 17.22 124 Lost -21
2 v Carl 16.16 112 15.15 105 Won 7
3 v Nth 13.14 92 15.14 104 Lost -12
4 v StK 13.15 93 18.12 120 Lost -27
5 v Ess 11.13 79 18.12 120 Lost -41
6 v Coll 20.14 134 10.10 70 Won 64
7 v Rich 16.18 114 11.12 78 Won 36
8 v BYE
9 v Melb 8.12 60 16.12 108 Lost -48
10 v Syd 25.15 165 16.20 116 Won 49
11 v Foot 13.13 91 12.12 84 Won 7
12 v Nth 7.8 50 20.16 136 Lost -86
13 v Fitz 17.21 123 15.8 98 Won 25
14 v Ess 8.6 54 24.14 158 Lost -104
15 v Bris 9.15 69 24.14 158 Lost -89
16 v Geel 16.12 108 24.9 153 Lost -45
17 v Carl 12.8 80 11.14 80 Drawn 0
18 v Nth 14.13 97 11.10 76 Won 21
19 v StK 22.10 142 16.12 108 Won 34
20 v Ess 11.8 74 23.21 159 Lost -85
21 v Coll 20.21 141 12.8 80 Won 61
22 v Rich 9.13 67 18.17 125 Lost -58
23 v BYE
24 v Melb 17.12 114 30.12 192 Lost -78Goalkickers:
Code:
Berry, Domenic 58
O'Dwyer, Kieran 36
Wynd, Stuart 31
Barnett, John 18
Nixon, Ricky 17
Nugent, Glenn 16
Johnston, Michael 14
Lochhead, Greg 12
Crawford, Shane 10
McDonald, Alex 9
Taylor, Richard 8
Murton, Phillip 7
Wilson, Tony 7
Crawshay, Simon 6
Hug, Ernie 6
Hart, Ross 5
Kitchen, Josh 5
Blood, Michael 4
Dear, Greg 4
Steele, Stuart 4
Wittman, Chris 4
Burke, Alistair 3
Crow, Scott 3
St Clair, Travis 3
Young, Matthew 3
Hudson, Paul 2
O'Donnell, K 2
Peter-Budge, John 2
Whittlesea, Greg 2
Abbott, Steven 1
Anderson, Dean 1
Ayres, Gary 1
Crough, Justin 1
Graham, Mark 1
Heaney, Troy 1
Madigan, Greg 1
McCrabb, Austin 1
Morrissey, James 1
Phillips, Rohan 1
Sruk, Peter 1
Taylor, Jason 1
Code:
Player In best Our BOG
Murton, Phillip 14 4
Nixon, Ricky 10 2
Barnett, John 7 1
Berry, Domenic 6
McCrabb, Austin 6 2
McDonald, Alex 6 2
Dear, Greg 5 2
Graham, Mark 5
Madigan, Greg 5
O'Dwyer, Kieran 5
Wynd, Stuart 5
Young, Matthew 5 3
Crow, Scott 4
Johnston, Michael 4 1
Taylor, Richard 4 1
Whittlesea, Greg 4
Crawford, Shane 3
Nugent, Glenn 3
Steele, Stuart 3
Hudson, Paul 2
Hug, Ernie 2 1
Jencke, Ray 2 1
McDonald, Anthony 2
Wittman, Chris 2
Ayres, Gary 1
Blood, Michael 1
Burke, Alistair 1
Cooper, Paul 1
Crough, Justin 1 1
Maginness, Scott 1
Peter-Budge, John 1
Taylor, Jason 1 1At the end of 1991 the Hawks traded pick 64 to Fitzroy in return for Tasmanian tall Jason Taylor. Taylor had been picked at number 11 by the Roys in the 1989 draft but only played 7 games there. He slotted straight into the Hawthorn senior side and played some good footy, playing 20 senior games and winning the Best First Year Player Award. He fell away in 1993, but returned to top form in 1994, becoming an important player in the Hawks' forward structure and winning the Most Serviceable Player Award. He was a senior player through to 1996, but when the side finally found some mid-season form, his went backwards and he found himself out of the side in the second half of that year, and then delisted and picked up by Collingwood at season's end.
Another Taylor, Richard, also started at Hawthorn in 1992. He was selected with pick 39 in the 1991 draft. A small rover, his BOG for the Ressies in round 19 saw him elevated to the senior side for his debut in the utopian 160-point demolition of Essendon in round 20, in which he contributed 3 goals. He won the 1992 Encouragement Award, which was perhaps a clue as to what was to come as he did his knee (for the second time of his career) late in 1993 and was delisted after having only added 2 more senior games that year. Come the 1995 pre-season draft, Hawthorn were pipped for Dermott Brereton by Collingwood, so re-drafted Taylor. He settled into the side, to play 108 games over 6 further seasons, picking up the Most improved Player Award in 1996, the Most Determined Player Award in 1997, the Most Courageous Player Award in 1998, and playing in the 1999 Night Premiership side.
Tall defender Mark Graham first played for the Hawks Reserves in 1992, and would be the last player to debut for Hawthorn without being drafted or traded for. Early in 1993, a decent game in round 5 for the Reserves was followed by his senior debut in round 6 against Adelaide at Football Park. He sat the entire game on the bench, and didn't get another look-in that year. When he didn't get a go in any of the pre-season matches in 1994, things weren't looking great for him, but come the season proper he was named in the the Reserve's best players in 2 of the first 3 games, including being named the Hawks' best in round 3. Coupled with the fact the senior side had been slaughtered the last two weeks, it was enough to be given a senior berth in round 4, especially in the absence of the injured Chris Langford. Graham matched up on Steve Kernahan all day and wasn't completely disgraced, considering the hiding Hawthorn received that day. Heebie didn't look back and became a hugely important member of the side, winning the Most Improved Award in 1994, the Best Clubman and Most Serviceable Award in 1996, the Most Consistent Player Award in 1997, the Most Determined Award in 1998, the Best Clubman again in 1999, and the Most Serviceable Player Award again in 2002. He was a member of the 1999 Night Premiership side, and played a total of 223 games for the Hawks - unfortunately the most Hawthorn games without a Premiership - and is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Football Club.
Shane Crawford was taken with pick 13 in the 1991 draft. He kicked 10 goals and got in the Reserves best players 3 times in 1992, but would never play 2nds footy again. Making his senior debut in round 1 of 1993, Crawf would become a Hawthorn champion, playing 305 games and slotting 224 goals. His accomplishments:
Hawthorn's first ever Rising Star Nomination in round 2, 1993
Won the Best First Year Player Award in 1993
Won the Most Consistent Player Award in 1994 and 1995
Won the Best Team Player Award in 1996
4 times All Australian selection - 1996, 1998, 1999 and 2002
4 times Hawthorn Best and Fairest Winner - 1998, 1999, 2002, 2003
Jesaulenko Medalist 1998
Brownlow Medal winner 1999
159 Brownlow Votes - 2nd at Hawthorn to Leigh Matthews
Hawthorn Captain 6 years - 1999 to 2004
Captain of 1999 Night Premiership side
AFLPA and AFMA MVP 1999
Member HFC Ultimate Premiership Team (wing)
Hawthorn Football Club Life Member
AFL Hall of Fame Member
Member of the 2008 Hawthorn Premiership side
Champion Hawthorn Footballer - That's what I'm talking about!!
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1993:
10 wins, 11 losses and a draw had the Hawks Reserves finishing one place outside the top 6, missing the finals by virtue of the drawn game - had it been a win the Hawks would have finished 4th. As it was, they finished 7th of what was once again 12 sides (Brisbane having left the Reserves Competition).
Goalkickers:
Best Players:
There wasn't a great deal of exciting youngsters arriving in 1993 who would go on to have a lasting impact at Hawthorn. One who did though was Nick Holland. He was drafted by Hawthorn with pick 14 in the 1992 draft. A key tall, who spent the early years of his career switching from attack to defence, he played out his first season in the Reserves. Named in the Reserves best players in round 1, 1994, he made his senior debut in the round 3 debacle with North Melbourne. He played the following week as well, before being dropped and playing out the year in the Reserves. He finished the season strongly, being named in the best players in four of the Ressie's last 5 games. In 1995 he played the first 11 games for the seniors before a colorbone injury ruled him out for 6 weeks. He returned via the Reserves, being named BOG and getting rushed straight back to the seniors as a result. He won the AFL Rising Star Award (Hawthorn's first), and Hawthorn's Most Improved Player Award. He went on to play 179 games, mostly from CHF, kicking 239 goals. He won the 1996 Most Determined Player Award, the 1997 Most Courageous Player Award, the 1998 Most Serviceable Player Award, the 1999 Most Determined Player Award, the 2000 Hawthorn Best and Fairest Award as a marking machine (equal winner with Daniel Chick), and the 2001 Most Courageous Player Award. He won the club goalkicking in 1997 and 2000, played in the 1999 Night Premiership and is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Footy Club.
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v Melb 8.9 57 14.14 98 Lost -41
2 v Syd 10.12 72 17.16 118 Lost -46
3 v Carl 11.14 80 16.10 106 Lost -26
4 v Geel 13.19 97 15.7 97 Drawn 0
5 v Coll 6.9 45 23.11 149 Lost -104
6 v Rich 21.11 137 15.16 106 Won 31
7 v Ess 20.18 138 9.4 58 Won 80
8 v Coll 16.19 115 8.12 60 Won 55
9 v Rich 11.12 78 15.10 100 Lost -22
10 v Foot 13.7 85 14.13 97 Lost -12
11 v Ess 16.9 105 16.11 107 Lost -2
12 v St K 7.22 64 11.15 81 Lost -17
13 v Nth 10.11 71 18.11 119 Lost -48
14 v Syd 24.20 164 5.9 39 Won 125
15 v Fitz 9.9 63 16.9 105 Lost -42
16 v Melb 16.13 109 12.9 81 Won 28
17 v Syd 17.13 115 7.7 49 Won 66
18 v Carl 15.19 109 10.7 67 Won 42
19 v Geel 25.18 168 16.10 106 Won 62
20 v Coll 5.11 41 14.13 97 Lost -56
21 v Fitz 18.14 122 9.5 59 Won 63
22 v Geel 30.16 196 10.5 65 Won 131Goalkickers:
Code:
Allen, Tim 32
Barnett, John 32
Wynd, Stuart 20
Nugent, Glenn 19
Hargreaves, Tim 18
Johnston, Michael 18
Morrissey, James 17
Brereton, Dermott 16
Kitchen, Josh 15
Madigan, Greg 15
Walker, Robert 12
Crawshay, Simon 11
Bunn, Mark 10
McDonald, Alex 10
Taylor, Richard 9
Rigoni, Guy 7
Taylor, Jason 7
Holland, Nick 6
Nixon, Ricky 6
Lawrence, Stephen 5
McCrabb, Austin 5
Berry, Domenic 4
Crow, Scott 4
Lochhead, Greg 4
O'Dwyer, Kieran 4
Dear, Greg 3
Ellinghaus, Ben 3
Dear, Paul 2
Graham, Mark 2
Kemp, Andrew 2
Hall, Tony 1
Kelly, Matthew 1
Maginness, Scott 1
Code:
Player In best Our BOG
Johnston, Michael 11
Bunn, Mark 10 2
Dear, Greg 9
Crow, Scott 8 2
Morrissey, James 7
Allen, Tim 6 1
Nugent, Glenn 6 2
Holland, Nick 5 1
Taylor, Richard 5
Walker, Robert 5
Barnett, John 4
Graham, Mark 4 1
Lawrence, Stephen 4 1
Madigan, Greg 4 2
Maginness, Scott 4 2
McDonald, Alex 4 1
Nixon, Ricky 4 1
Young, Matthew 4
Crawshay, Simon 3
Dear, Paul 3 3
McCrabb, Austin 3
Ayres, Gary 2
Brereton, Dermott 2
Hargreaves, Tim 2
Kelly, Matthew 2 1
Taylor, Jason 2 2
Wynd, Stuart 2
Berry, Domenic 1
Cooper, Paul 1
Kitchen, Josh 1
McDonald, Anthony 1
Rigoni, Guy 1- Thread starter
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1994:
12 wins and 10 losses had the 1994 Hawks Reserves land in 6th place, sneaking into the finals on percentage but progressing no further, losing an Elimination Final to Footscray and finishing the season placed 6th of 12.
Goalkickers:
Best Players:
Shannon Gibson was a short full-forward, and as such was always going to struggle to get a role in the Hawthorn forward line while Dunstall was around. He'd kicked 10 goals for the Northern Knights in the TAC Cup Grand Final the year he was drafted to the Hawks with pick 23. In his first 5 Reserves games he slotted 21 goals, including a season best 6 in round 5, but tapered off from there to finish the season with 43, enough to win the Reserves goalkicking at Hawthorn. Gibson worked hard to find another role and early in 1995 managed to get himself in the best players for the Reserves a couple of times without kicking goals, on his way to a senior debut in round 7, ironically replacing the injured Dunstall at full forward. He kicked a couple of goals in one of the famous narrow wins down at Geelong. Gibson managed 25 senior games over 1995-1997, before being traded to Collingwood for Paul Sharkey.
Gibson's teammate at the Northern Knights, Angelo Lekkas, had won the side's B&F in their Premiership year, and he was drafted by Hawthorn with pick 17 (acquired from Adelaide for Tony Hall). Oddly described by Hawthorn on draft day as a Chris Mew-type backman, Lekkas would take until 1997 to establish in the AFL as a wingman, going on to play 180 games with the Hawks, snagging 120 goals along the way. He won the Most Improved Player Award in 1997, the 1999 Most Serviceable Player Award, and the 2001 Most Determined Player Award. He is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Football Club.
Luke McCabe was drafted with pick 15 in 1993, and played the 1994 season in the Reserves. He debuted for Hawthorn in round 1 of 1995, going on to play 138 games in the back pocket. He won the 1999 Best Team Player Award, the 2000 Most Determined Award, and the 2002 Most Courageous Award. He played in the 1999 Night Premiership and he also, is a Life Member at the Hawks.
Rayden Tallis was named in the best players for the Reserves in his first 2 matches in 1994, on the way to his senior debut for the Hawks in the round 3 shellacking at the hands of North Melbourne. Drafted at pick 56 in 1993, Tallis entered the spotlight a few weeks before his debut by having his head trodden on by Dermott Brereton in a practice match. He had a great first season, playing 18 senior games including the final and winning the Best First Year Player Award. Despite winning the Most Determined Player Award, he fell away a fraction in 1995, a combination of form and Tony Woods taking his tagging role in the side. The arrival of Ken Judge as coach didn't help matters in 1996, as Radar found himself on the outer, playing an average of 8 games a year during Judge's 4-year tenure. Tallis cemented himself in the seniors from 2000 however, winning the Most Consistent Player Award and playing nearly every game for the next 4 seasons, eventually retiring after 163 games. He is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Footy Club.
Code:
Res Hawks v For Ag W / L By
1 v StK 14.16 100 14.9 93 Won 7
2 v Melb 14.20 104 13.6 84 Won 20
3 v Nth 12.17 89 14.14 98 Lost -9
4 v Carl 29.14 188 20.9 129 Won 59
5 v Foot 22.17 149 13.10 88 Won 61
6 v Rich 21.22 148 5.5 35 Won 113
7 v Ess 11.15 81 15.13 103 Lost -22
8 v Coll 10.9 69 15.7 97 Lost -28
9 v Foot 16.11 107 11.13 79 Won 28
10 v Coll 12.13 85 18.16 124 Lost -39
11 v Foot 10.15 75 15.20 110 Lost -35
12 v Syd 16.10 106 19.11 125 Lost -19
13 v Fitz 17.11 113 13.5 83 Won 30
14 v BYE
15 v Geel 15.7 97 15.11 101 Lost -4
16 v StK 19.15 129 19.7 121 Won 8
17 v Melb 19.11 125 9.16 70 Won 55
18 v Nth 14.11 95 15.18 108 Lost -13
19 v Carl 20.18 138 14.16 100 Won 38
20 v BYE
21 v Rich 14.16 100 14.12 96 Won 4
22 v Ess 12.17 89 20.9 129 Lost -40
23 v Coll 12.12 84 14.9 93 Lost -9
24 v Foot 13.14 92 5.12 42 Won 50
EF v Foot 12.13 85 16.16 112 Lost -27Goalkickers:
Code:
Gibson, Shannon 43
McDonald, Alex 38
Allen, Tim 22
Barnard, Paul 20
Lethlean, Simon 20
Baxter, Darren 17
Johnston, Michael 13
Disney, Jason 12
Holland, Nick 12
Nugent, Glenn 12
Stevenson, Shayne 12
Crawshay, Simon 11
Kitchen, Joshua 11
Crow, Scott 10
Hargreaves, Tim 10
Morrison, Hamish 10
Hilton, Adam 9
Madigan, Greg 9
Murton, Phillip 9
Bunn, Mark 8
McCabe, Luke 8
Rigoni, Guy 8
Young, Matthew 8
Pannam, Brett 7
Burgmann, Shane 5
Graham, Mark 3
Lekkas, Angelo 2
Tallis, Rayden 2
Dear, Paul 1
Ellinghaus, Ben 1
Taylor, Jason 1
Code:
Player In best Our BOG
McDonald, Alex 10 2
Baxter, Darren 8 2
Crow, Scott 8
McCabe, Luke 7
Barnard, Paul 6 3
Bunn, Mark 6 1
Burgmann, Shane 6 2
Holland, Nick 6 1
Madigan, Greg 6 1
Murton, Phillip 6 1
Stevenson, Shayne 6 1
Johnston, Michael 5 1
Young, Matthew 5
Crawshay, Simon 4 1
Hilton, Adam 4
Lekkas, Angelo 4
Tallis, Rayden 4 1
Allen, Tim 3
Cooper, Paul 3 1
Disney, Jason 3
Gibson, Shannon 3
Graham, Mark 2 1
Hargreaves, Tim 2 1
Kerr, Jon 2
Morrison, Hamish 2
Nugent, Glenn 2 1
Kitchen, Joshua 1
Lawrence, Stephen 1
Lethlean, Simon 1 1
Pannam, Brett 1
Rigoni, Guy 1 1
Taylor, Jason 1Gibson's teammate at the Northern Knights, Angelo Lekkas, had won the side's B&F in their Premiership year, and he was drafted by Hawthorn with pick 17 (acquired from Adelaide for Tony Hall). Oddly described by Hawthorn on draft day as a Chris Mew-type backman, Lekkas would take until 1997 to establish in the AFL as a wingman, going on to play 180 games with the Hawks, snagging 120 goals along the way. He won the Most Improved Player Award in 1997, the 1999 Most Serviceable Player Award, and the 2001 Most Determined Player Award. He is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Football Club.
Luke McCabe was drafted with pick 15 in 1993, and played the 1994 season in the Reserves. He debuted for Hawthorn in round 1 of 1995, going on to play 138 games in the back pocket. He won the 1999 Best Team Player Award, the 2000 Most Determined Award, and the 2002 Most Courageous Award. He played in the 1999 Night Premiership and he also, is a Life Member at the Hawks.
Rayden Tallis was named in the best players for the Reserves in his first 2 matches in 1994, on the way to his senior debut for the Hawks in the round 3 shellacking at the hands of North Melbourne. Drafted at pick 56 in 1993, Tallis entered the spotlight a few weeks before his debut by having his head trodden on by Dermott Brereton in a practice match. He had a great first season, playing 18 senior games including the final and winning the Best First Year Player Award. Despite winning the Most Determined Player Award, he fell away a fraction in 1995, a combination of form and Tony Woods taking his tagging role in the side. The arrival of Ken Judge as coach didn't help matters in 1996, as Radar found himself on the outer, playing an average of 8 games a year during Judge's 4-year tenure. Tallis cemented himself in the seniors from 2000 however, winning the Most Consistent Player Award and playing nearly every game for the next 4 seasons, eventually retiring after 163 games. He is a Life Member of the Hawthorn Footy Club.
