I reckon if he wasn't a rookie he would've got a game by now. He seems to go very very well each week, covers a lot ground, agile, aggressive. I'd like to see him promoted for the back half of the season to see how far he can go at the top level.
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I think the only thing holding him back is his ability around the ground. Would probably provide less than both Tom and Billy in that regard.Guys. How far off seniors do you think he is? You think he could make the step up in pressure?
I think the only thing holding him back is his ability around the ground. Would probably provide less than both Tom and Billy in that regard.
Billy is so massively underrated & unfairly bagged by some supporters. I made the mistake of reading a fee threads on SS this morning... calls for him to be traded so Pierce can get a go...FFS.
I really don't see the need to be worried about the ruck situation now...we're finally got depth which we will undoubtedly need down the track. The most physically demanding & injury prone position & supporters want to trade out our #1 Ruckman???
Utterly ludicrous
Definitely didn't say that we SHOULD trade him out, at all. But, if (and right now, it's a pretty huge if) we have the luxury of an even better prospect on our rookie list, then that's worth considering.Billy is so massively underrated & unfairly bagged by some supporters. I made the mistake of reading a fee threads on SS this morning... calls for him to be traded so Pierce can get a go...FFS.
I really don't see the need to be worried about the ruck situation now...we're finally got depth which we will undoubtedly need down the track. The most physically demanding & injury prone position & supporters want to trade out our #1 Ruckman???
Utterly ludicrous
Definitely didn't say that we SHOULD trade him out, at all. But, if (and right now, it's a pretty huge if) we have the luxury of an even better prospect on our rookie list, then that's worth considering.
Look, the other way this goes is that we say, "Hey, he's nearly 26, while Billy is only 22. By 2018, Billy will be in his prime at about 25, whereas Jason will be 29. As such, he's too old to be part of the team when we're making our next tilt. As such, let's trade HOLMES."
Then, getting him to play those last 5-6 games become even MORE important, because then we can shop him off as a ruckman in his age-prime, with talent, for somebody who needs another ruck NOW, a team looking to make that last leap to premiership contention (maybe a Richmond to compliment Maric? I'd say the Bombers because Bellchambers is getting on, but they're such flogs to bargain with). Again, if we can turn an international rookie we got for free into a first or second rounder, then that's an amazing return. But wed have to get him to show his wares for a month or so before the end of the year.
Geelong gave us pick 21 for Rys and he only played 3 good games in his whole career. And none of them were in the ruck and they picked him up to play ruck : ) lolGiving Holmes a month or two isn't going to get him to the level where he can get us a 1st or 2nd rounder. If he puts in consistent solid efforts for 30-40 games then we'd possibly get something along those lines but that's a few years away from happening.
never heard of him before but i love him now.The development of Holmes and Longer this year really shows what a terrific job Adam Skrobalak, part-time ruck coach, has done. Both seems to have made huge strides this year, great pick up is Skroba, I believe he was also midfield coach at the Western Jets last year and developed the likes of Corey Ellis, Jayden Laverde, Liam Duggan and Connor Menadue.
The development of Holmes and Longer this year really shows what a terrific job Adam Skrobalak, part-time ruck coach, has done. Both seems to have made huge strides this year, great pick up is Skroba, I believe he was also midfield coach at the Western Jets last year and developed the likes of Corey Ellis, Jayden Laverde, Liam Duggan and Connor Menadue.