Hot Topic It's Official - Bye Mick

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Betts walked (not sure how many times we have to go through this?)
Deal was stitched up 18 months in advance, thanks Triggy. :(
Laidler asked to leave (sure, he seemed to be in Mick's bad books and wasn't getting a game, but he didn't have to leave - within his rights to go somewhere where he could get a game, but he also could've stuck it out and see what happened)

I don't know that's the case. The timing of injury recovery didn't help but Mick just saw him as another failed Ratten project, told him to reinvent himself as a forward and had to cut a certain number of players at the end of 2013.

As for Waite, he had a testy relationship with Mick no doubt. Might he have signed on a 1 year deal under a different coach? Perhaps but NM offered 2 years and the (slim) chance of a premiership.
 
It's probably even less of an issue considering how many of them turned up at the VFL the next day--certainly more than I've ever seen at a reserves game before, and none of them looked worse for wear (Doc even put his best trackies on for the occasion :p)

Like Magruder said, there was a baby there. It's not like they were at Revolver.
And it certainly counteracts the claims that our players don't get along with each other and head their seperate ways after training and games. Theyve all gone to Sydney together, spent saturday evening together, and then spent sunday at the VFL in box hill in terrible weather conditions.
 

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We said we changed the party boy culture of the club when we off loaded Fev to Brisbane, but I don't see it yet, we had to get rid of Robbo (and by association Jeffy) because they enjoyed the party life a little too much.

I actually think Jeffy was equally to blame if not more for both his performances and his lying to the club. He wasnt guilty by association, he was actually the one who was initially assaulted before Robbo stepped in to try and help him out according to reports. The were reportedly out until early in the morning to celebrate Jeff's birthday. Jeff should have been offloaded purely on the basis of performance that season, let alone the fact that he lied to the club.
 
Now that Mick is gone, Daisy has become the resident whipping boy/scapegoat for the malcontents who always feel the need to individualize all of the collective problems at the footy club on one individual.

I am not interested hearing gossip about players out at an inner city nightspot on Saturday night, in fact we've the season, they should be banned from weekend night outs for rest of the season. Its a bit insulting to us fans that the night after another 10 goal loss, the players don't seem overly concerned and happy to have a few shandies the night after (like we haven't had problems with players on the sauce before?)

The playing group collectively having been self-indulgent and unwilling to take responsibility for their own woeful form for several years now, that culture has to change.
Can you please list the other stuff you aren't interested in reading for other posters' future reference?
 
Honestly DVB, a couple of quiet jars and a meal with teammates?

How rowdy could it have been if there's an infant there.

We complain the team doesn't seem bonded, yet if they spend time in a social setting that's a bad thing?

Don't see the issue.

I have a problem with it, coming the night after a 10 goal loss, and the well documented cases of our players getting into trouble during the season whilst drinking.

Look I probably did overreact to this, but as i said, i am sick to death of our club's players being involved in alcohol related fracas, but obviously that's not what happened here, but still i think the players should be grog-free during the season (or at least 24 hours before and after a game, at any rate)
 
Now that Mick is gone, Daisy has become the resident whipping boy/scapegoat for the malcontents who always feel the need to individualize all of the collective problems at the footy club on one individual.

I am not interested hearing gossip about players out at an inner city nightspot on Saturday night, in fact we've the season, they should be banned from weekend night outs for rest of the season. Its a bit insulting to us fans that the night after another 10 goal loss, the players don't seem overly concerned and happy to have a few shandies the night after (like we haven't had problems with players on the sauce before?)

The playing group collectively having been self-indulgent and unwilling to take responsibility for their own woeful form for several years now, that culture has to change.
Over the top and back again DVB. It was not gossip at all, it was the type of little snippet that many of us like to read. Buckley is a good bloke, Daisy loves his baby and the players enjoy each others company enough to spend a bit of time socialising together. All good.

You are a worthy poster but have a habit of hopping on your high horse and berating people for no good reason.
 

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Over the top and back again DVB. It was not gossip at all, it was the type of little snippet that many of us like to read. Buckley is a good bloke, Daisy loves his baby and the players enjoy each others company enough to spend a bit of time socialising together. All good.

You are a worthy poster but have a habit of hopping on your high horse and berating people for no good reason.

I have to admit that i didn't like hearing the anecdote of a poster talking to Dylan Buckley on Saturday night MM and making it sound like Buckley agreed with him of his dislike of Malthouse. I hope i didn't berate the poster personally, i just don't enjoy reading stories like that, it make an dangerous assumption that Buckley or any other player didn't like Mick, those kind of conversations have been distorted/twisted before.

I just don't think its a good idea for a fan to chat to a player about a coach being sacked, only days after he lost job, it put Dyl Bucks in a very awkward position. Unfair to both MM & Dylan

I do apologize if i came across as too antagonistic, wasn't my intention and i accept your criticisms.

My compassion/empathy for Mick may be clouding my judgement
 
Now players aren't allowed to talk to fans? I think you are taking things a bit too seriously. Buckley can say what he likes. If he wasn't comfortable about the question asked about MM, he simply could have said that he'd rather not talk about it
 
I just don't think its a good idea for a fan to chat to a player about a coach being sacked, only days after he lost job, it put Dyl Bucks in a very awkward position. Unfair to both MM & Dylan

There will always be talk between players and................people. No problem.

The trick for players/officials etc is to be careful of what they say and to who. (or whom :confused:)
Unfortunately there are some people at Carlton that enjoy flapping off at the mouth knowing their words/actions can only be to the detriment of the club.

They're the ones that need gagging.........sacking......whatever!!
 
I have to admit that i didn't like hearing the anecdote of a poster talking to Dylan Buckley on Saturday night MM and making it sound like Buckley agreed with him of his dislike of Malthouse. I hope i didn't berate the poster personally, i just don't enjoy reading stories like that, it make an dangerous assumption that Buckley or any other player didn't like Mick, those kind of conversations have been distorted/twisted before.

I just don't think its a good idea for a fan to chat to a player about a coach being sacked, only days after he lost job, it put Dyl Bucks in a very awkward position. Unfair to both MM & Dylan

I do apologize if i came across as too antagonistic, wasn't my intention and i accept your criticisms.

My compassion/empathy for Mick may be clouding my judgement
Without going back and reading the post again, I'm pretty sure all he said was that he agreed that he didn't think Mick's game plan suited the players. That's what I got out of it. Nothing negative said about him that I recall. I've also seen another story where Army and somebody else were asked about Mick and said that he cares about them as people, not just footballers. Then there was Cachia's tweet about Mick not deserving the treatment he got, even though he gave him the chop. I think it's pretty clear that the players liked and respected Mick, but his game plan just didn't suit the cattle he had. It was a chance worth taking, in my opinion, but for some reason it just didn't work out.
 
I have to admit that i didn't like hearing the anecdote of a poster talking to Dylan Buckley on Saturday night MM and making it sound like Buckley agreed with him of his dislike of Malthouse. I hope i didn't berate the poster personally, i just don't enjoy reading stories like that, it make an dangerous assumption that Buckley or any other player didn't like Mick, those kind of conversations have been distorted/twisted before.

I just don't think its a good idea for a fan to chat to a player about a coach being sacked, only days after he lost job, it put Dyl Bucks in a very awkward position. Unfair to both MM & Dylan

I do apologize if i came across as too antagonistic, wasn't my intention and i accept your criticisms.

My compassion/empathy for Mick may be clouding my judgement
1. i didnt speak to Buckley about whether he liked MM or now
2. I spoke to him about whether Micks game plan suited Carlton or not.

Going at someones throat for posting is not on, this is a forum, if everyone is going to get berated for what they post, no one will!
 
Over the top and back again DVB. It was not gossip at all, it was the type of little snippet that many of us like to read. Buckley is a good bloke, Daisy loves his baby and the players enjoy each others company enough to spend a bit of time socialising together. All good.

You are a worthy poster but have a habit of hopping on your high horse and berating people for no good reason.
One at a time on Neddy ffs...........
 
1. i didnt speak to Buckley about whether he liked MM or now
2. I spoke to him about whether Micks game plan suited Carlton or not.

Going at someones throat for posting is not on, this is a forum, if everyone is going to get berated for what they post, no one will!

Smashbox, I am truly sorry for biting your head off, and I did overact and misinterpret your post (and sadly i have a habit of doing that lately)

I appreciate you responding to my thoughtless post in a respectful and polite way, i probably should call it quits posting in this thread and discussing all things MM, cause boy, have i posted some embarrassing/misguided thoughts.

Have a great afternoon mate :)
 
Yawn....
With all these dead horses being flogged this thread resembles some sort of glue factory!

Mick came and went. Thanks and don't come back! Is it that hard to interpret?


Onward, upward, forward.....etc....etc
 
I don't see much point in keeping this open. It was a goodbye thread and some people hate long goodbyes. It's pretty much going backwards as well.

Alas sweet moustachioed prince ... we knew him well.
 
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