Recommitted Jack Billings [re-signed until 2025]

[philthy05]

Lol it says Richmond Rd5 in the post you quoted.



Yeah agreed, not particularly keen.

That’s not the original post

 

[zeggie]

That’s not the original post

Cool so you reply to posts you don't read?

 

[joop]

The underlying argument has merit however. Using a 4 round period to say what he can do, when there is a huge body of evidence of your normal average yearly performance, does seem to be reaching.

The problem is, even without the injury, he most likely would’ve posted similar numbers anyway. He’s always been inconsistent, and I don’t mean great and really poor, just never consistently great.
He’s had good patches every year, early 2019 he was on fire but then sorta just ended up being good. He’s a good player, but has never taken his game to the next level for a full year.
Obviously sandwiched between Kelly and Bont he gets a lot of stick, but if you look at that draft I’d still say he’s definitely a top 10 pick.

 

[philthy05]

Cool so you reply to posts you don't read?

what? I think you’re confused. You’ve jumped in halfway through a conversation and don’t understand what’s going on.

 

[Lore]

Lol it says Richmond Rd5 in the post you quoted.



Yeah agreed, not particularly keen.

That’s not the original post

Cool so you reply to posts you don't read?

what? I think you’re confused. You’ve jumped in halfway through a conversation and don’t understand what’s going on.

BrutThough covered off which rounds the injuries occurred, that post is at the bottom of page 12 of this thread.

It was after philthy posted asking about it. Reasonable question, since answered.

Can we move on now?

 

[powerrrrrrrrrrrr]

The problem is, even without the injury, he most likely would’ve posted similar numbers anyway. He’s always been inconsistent, and I don’t mean great and really poor, just never consistently great.
He’s had good patches every year, early 2019 he was on fire but then sorta just ended up being good. He’s a good player, but has never taken his game to the next level for a full year.
Obviously sandwiched between Kelly and Bont he gets a lot of stick, but if you look at that draft I’d still say he’s definitely a top 10 pick.

Being pedantic here now but I don’t think Billings would stay in the top 10 if there was a redraft of that year. Others I’d have ahead of him and not in any particular order;

Bont
Kelly
Salem
Sheed
Cripps
Jones
Crouch
Merrett
Nankervis
Brown
DBJ
Amon
Sicily

and then Billings.

Id still take Billings at Port as a FA for a reasonable contract (500k x 4 perhaps) as I think he could complement Rozee and Butters but it seems it’s never 100% clicked for him to play consistently at a high level. As you mentioned for one reason or another he’s just always been inconsistent but on his day can be a match winner.

 

[joop]

Being pedantic here now but I don’t think Billings would stay in the top 10 if there was a redraft of that year. Others I’d have ahead of him and not in any particular order;

Bont
Kelly
Salem
Sheed
Cripps
Jones
Crouch
Merrett
Nankervis
Brown
DBJ
Amon
Sicily

and then Billings.

Id still take Billings at Port as a FA for a reasonable contract (500k x 4 perhaps) as I think he could complement Rozee and Butters but it seems it’s never 100% clicked for him to play consistently at a high level. As you mentioned for one reason or another he’s just always been inconsistent but on his day can be a match winner.

Entitled to your opinion, but I'd take Billings career over Salem, Jones, Nank, DBJ, Amon. Probably borderline with Sicily and Brown a little bit different as he didn't come into the AFL as an 18 year old. Nank obviously a premiership player but has played what? 2 full years in his career?

 

[Chairman Zia]

We don't need any more flakey/conditional footballers on our list with a history of chronic injury problems thanks.

really?

 

[ummmbont]

I think saints should keep him - class is so important he has it.
Love him at the dogs

 

[juss]

What'd be his trade value? Bargain potential imo if he's out of favour

 

[Schulzenfest]

What'd be his trade value? Bargain potential imo if he's out of favour

He's a free agent, so zero.

 

[juss]

He's a free agent, so zero.

Well worth a look then for someone imo as long as Saints wouldn't match

 

[Ants]

Well worth a look then for someone imo as long as Saints wouldn't match

That's the headache. Unless a team is paying enough for Band 1 compo, they just might match. But that salary level is probably overs for Billings.

 

[jiphoc]

Well worth a look then for someone imo as long as Saints wouldn't match

Billings is unreliable. Saints would almost be better not to match should the situation present itself.

He is one player that really saddens me how his career has progressed (form and injury). In full fight he is pure class and a joy to watch, just does not happen enough.

 

[Chairman Zia]

Billings is unreliable. Saints would almost be better not to match should the situation present itself.

He is one player that really saddens me how his career has progressed (form and injury). In full fight he is pure class and a joy to watch, just does not happen enough.

that sounds like the career development issue as opposed to issue to di with the individual.

 

[PMBangers]

Quite frankly, the persistence of some of you to talk about North Melbourne players in this thread is astonishing, shut up about it

 

[Freomaniac]

that sounds like the career development issue as opposed to issue to di with the individual.

I'm curious what happens if billings goes to another club

 

[Ekomaira]

I'm curious what happens if billings goes to another club

so am I to be honest. I really hope it doesn't happen

 

[Shack18]

Very ordinary footballer, been a big disappointment. Find him average at most things and has zero impact on game.

 

[TheOsprey]

Prob only worth a 2nd rounder in a trade if a contract was matched.

Really not that fussed either way.

He isn’t worth a salary that gets anywhere near band 1 compo.

Unfortunately a change of scenery will prob bring out better in him.

This thread is a good indication of the general apathy - 13 pages on a former pick 3 entering his prime years.

I’d prefer to keep him on moderate coin than just let him go. He does have some class and is a good user.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Mitch Cleary reporting that he likely to stay.

 

[The_Steadier]

Mitch Cleary reporting that he likely to stay.

What a fittingly beige outcome that would be

 

[WillHayward]

Tested the market.
Found out no other club was prepared to pay him close to what he was on.

 

[Strahany]

Tested the market.
Found out no other club was prepared to pay him close to what he was on.

It’s disappointing, really.

The Saints have overpaid him, and others of his generation, in order to meet salary cap minimums. I’m sure St Kilda would have reminded him of this fact when in negotiations, and I would have hoped Billings and his management would have clearly seen this to be true. If they tested the waters with genuine expectations, then they’re deluded.

 

[The Nostradamus]

I’d give him 600k a year to get him over free

Always saw him as our next option once kelly passed