Knightmare
Brownlow Medallist
- Sep 22, 2010
- 19,533
- 19,542
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
- Other Teams
- Chicago Bulls
- Banned
- #1
Will this be the year I outperform our superstar recruiting team including Derek Hine, Matt Rendell and Dom Milesi and company?
Hinesight (Collingwood selections):
32: Brayden Sier: Tall, strong bodied midfielder. Have not sighted and this is very early for a midfielder who only managed 16 and 14 disposals from only the two games in the TAC Cup. But the club clearly are sold on his upside and likely see him as something like a Patrick Cripps equivalent as a selection that makes very clear that we want more height/size through the midfield.
58: Tom Phillips: Excellent selection. Phillips can play midfield (outside/inside), can push forward and offer scoreboard impact and can also go back and look comfortable. Production excellent, and has the class, footskills, movement and sidestep to be a have long term best 22 chances. It's not out of the question that Phillips could be another Tom Langdon (not necessarily a general defender but more from the perspective of being another late draft overage value pick others have completely missed).
63: Rupert Wills: Another tall midfielder and it's clear we want to continue adding height to our midfield group. I'm just not seeing the point. Unimpressive at VFL level (for Collingwood) in those games he played (others may have a different view here and are welcome to weigh in), but I didn't feel his impact and as a 22 year old I'm expecting a best 22 player but what I'm seeing is more just depth/ VFL midfielder. I can't imagine demand would have been high so I'm personally puzzled as to why we even needed to pick him in the national draft.
65: Ben Crocker: Crocker is a strong marking medium sizer. He has the versatility to play through the midfield or at either end but this year played his best footy as a medium marking forward. He has some class, ball use at times good, at other times inconsistent. He isn't a star, but he has generally in the even Oakleigh side been looked at as their number one forward and star player/fan favourite which is more an indication of how even that team is - where Phillips also played his footy again this year.
RD.
7. Lachlan Keeffe
25. Josh Smith
42. Josh Thomas
55. Tim Golds
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Knightsight: My preferred players at each selection based on my pre-draft rankings at per my draft almanac: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2015-draft-almanac.1091303/
32: Mitch Hibberd
There were some really nice options still available in Mitch Hibberd, Tom Cole, Harley Balic, Rhys Mathieson and Riley Bonner but Hibberd of these was my preference as my 10th rated player in this draft. Hibberd is a tallish outside type who has had his injury issues but has improved rapidly this year and has some real ability to do damage with his long damaging kick, some outside running ability, strong overhead marking ability, able to win the contested footy, has strong numbers but then versatility to his game. He is something like a poor man's Brendon Goddard and an ideal list fit as a wing/back flanker who could plausibly even play forward flank or on the ball in the future.
58: Tom Phillips
Phillips as above was my highest rated available talent and I'm very excited to see the club agree with my evaluation. With his production, improvement and how well rounded his game is. He may become someone.
63: Nicholas Coughlan
Nicholas Coughlan makes it three overagers from three selections. Coughlan this year has made the switch from key forward into key defender and has come a long way. He has a good balance between being able to beat his direct opponent and take intercept marks and rebound. Also importantly he has not only performed well through the TAC Cup this season but has also stood up at VFL level and looked the part.
65: Michael Hartley
Hartley is a second key defender after Coughlan but Hartley has had an excellent season at VFL level as a still very good stopper but now also is more of a balanced player now with some intercept marking ability now a new part to his game, and finally better health these past two seasons and consistently good on field performance.
66. Sam Menegola
Menegola as a mature age midfielder is a tall, big bodied midfielder with excellent endurance and the ability to push forward and offer scoreboard impact. He has improved significantly this past season and his all-round game is much better than when he was on Hawthorn and Fremantle's rookie lists as an advanced and AFL ready midfielder now.
Of those on my draft board I would be willing to rookie: Daniel Capiron, Nick Dodge, Ben Crocker, Josh Wagner, Chris Jansen, Kaine Stevens, Jesse Glass-McCasker Tom Keough, Nash Holmes, Clint Hinchliffe and Jadyn Brind. And of those Capiron is not expected to get selected at all given he was not invited to the state or national combines and Dodge is only a fair rookie chance so I would look to manipulate that order somewhat to ensure I get the best combination of players possible.
Rookie draft:
7. Nick Dodge
25. Daniel Capiron
42. Chris Jansen
55. Kaine Stevens
*Didn't think Keeffe/Thomas should return given two years of being inactive to due drug ban.
*Trade note. Of the trades made. The James Aish trade was one I was opposed to and would not have allowed pick 26 (31 after bidding) and St Kilda's second round pick for 2016 to have moved as part of the trade. Had the trade not been made I would have taken Mitch Hibberd at 31 (allowing me to take Ryan Clarke at 32) and with 33 in 2016 it would have allowed me to take Willem Drew at 30 still and with 33 if a bid on Brad Scheer would be matched Dylan Clarke would have been my choice.
Hindsight:
32: Sam Collins
58: Anthony McDonald Tipungwuti
One I felt for a few years now should have been drafted. Finally did and has been incredible.
63: Sam Menegola
Menegola as a mature age midfielder is a tall, big bodied midfielder with excellent endurance and the ability to push forward and offer scoreboard impact. He has improved significantly this past season and his all-round game is much better than when he was on Hawthorn and Fremantle's rookie lists as an advanced and AFL ready midfielder now.
65: Tom Papley
66. Dan Houston
Rookie draft:
7. Luke Ryan (2016 draft)
25. Tim Kelly (2017 draft)
42. Liam Ryan (2017 draft)
55. Brody Mihocek (2017 rookie draft)
*I would have Tom Stewart in under hindsight except I can't imagine he would have nominated for the draft in 2015 given he only just was about to make the move into the VFL from local football.
Blake Hardwick at 32 is an obvious alternative choice if you're not trilled about Collins needed to be delisted and then redrafted to become a good player.
*Summary - We both got Phillips. Sier remains heading into the 2021 season a wait and see but picking Menegola I'll give myself the points for 2015.
2014 edition:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightsight-v-hinesight-v-hindsight.1082834/
2013 edition:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/hinesight-knightsight-and-hindsight-end-of-2013.1041937/
Hinesight (Collingwood selections):
32: Brayden Sier: Tall, strong bodied midfielder. Have not sighted and this is very early for a midfielder who only managed 16 and 14 disposals from only the two games in the TAC Cup. But the club clearly are sold on his upside and likely see him as something like a Patrick Cripps equivalent as a selection that makes very clear that we want more height/size through the midfield.
58: Tom Phillips: Excellent selection. Phillips can play midfield (outside/inside), can push forward and offer scoreboard impact and can also go back and look comfortable. Production excellent, and has the class, footskills, movement and sidestep to be a have long term best 22 chances. It's not out of the question that Phillips could be another Tom Langdon (not necessarily a general defender but more from the perspective of being another late draft overage value pick others have completely missed).
63: Rupert Wills: Another tall midfielder and it's clear we want to continue adding height to our midfield group. I'm just not seeing the point. Unimpressive at VFL level (for Collingwood) in those games he played (others may have a different view here and are welcome to weigh in), but I didn't feel his impact and as a 22 year old I'm expecting a best 22 player but what I'm seeing is more just depth/ VFL midfielder. I can't imagine demand would have been high so I'm personally puzzled as to why we even needed to pick him in the national draft.
65: Ben Crocker: Crocker is a strong marking medium sizer. He has the versatility to play through the midfield or at either end but this year played his best footy as a medium marking forward. He has some class, ball use at times good, at other times inconsistent. He isn't a star, but he has generally in the even Oakleigh side been looked at as their number one forward and star player/fan favourite which is more an indication of how even that team is - where Phillips also played his footy again this year.
RD.
7. Lachlan Keeffe
25. Josh Smith
42. Josh Thomas
55. Tim Golds
---------------
Knightsight: My preferred players at each selection based on my pre-draft rankings at per my draft almanac: http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightmares-2015-draft-almanac.1091303/
32: Mitch Hibberd
There were some really nice options still available in Mitch Hibberd, Tom Cole, Harley Balic, Rhys Mathieson and Riley Bonner but Hibberd of these was my preference as my 10th rated player in this draft. Hibberd is a tallish outside type who has had his injury issues but has improved rapidly this year and has some real ability to do damage with his long damaging kick, some outside running ability, strong overhead marking ability, able to win the contested footy, has strong numbers but then versatility to his game. He is something like a poor man's Brendon Goddard and an ideal list fit as a wing/back flanker who could plausibly even play forward flank or on the ball in the future.
58: Tom Phillips
Phillips as above was my highest rated available talent and I'm very excited to see the club agree with my evaluation. With his production, improvement and how well rounded his game is. He may become someone.
63: Nicholas Coughlan
Nicholas Coughlan makes it three overagers from three selections. Coughlan this year has made the switch from key forward into key defender and has come a long way. He has a good balance between being able to beat his direct opponent and take intercept marks and rebound. Also importantly he has not only performed well through the TAC Cup this season but has also stood up at VFL level and looked the part.
65: Michael Hartley
Hartley is a second key defender after Coughlan but Hartley has had an excellent season at VFL level as a still very good stopper but now also is more of a balanced player now with some intercept marking ability now a new part to his game, and finally better health these past two seasons and consistently good on field performance.
66. Sam Menegola
Menegola as a mature age midfielder is a tall, big bodied midfielder with excellent endurance and the ability to push forward and offer scoreboard impact. He has improved significantly this past season and his all-round game is much better than when he was on Hawthorn and Fremantle's rookie lists as an advanced and AFL ready midfielder now.
Of those on my draft board I would be willing to rookie: Daniel Capiron, Nick Dodge, Ben Crocker, Josh Wagner, Chris Jansen, Kaine Stevens, Jesse Glass-McCasker Tom Keough, Nash Holmes, Clint Hinchliffe and Jadyn Brind. And of those Capiron is not expected to get selected at all given he was not invited to the state or national combines and Dodge is only a fair rookie chance so I would look to manipulate that order somewhat to ensure I get the best combination of players possible.
Rookie draft:
7. Nick Dodge
25. Daniel Capiron
42. Chris Jansen
55. Kaine Stevens
*Didn't think Keeffe/Thomas should return given two years of being inactive to due drug ban.
*Trade note. Of the trades made. The James Aish trade was one I was opposed to and would not have allowed pick 26 (31 after bidding) and St Kilda's second round pick for 2016 to have moved as part of the trade. Had the trade not been made I would have taken Mitch Hibberd at 31 (allowing me to take Ryan Clarke at 32) and with 33 in 2016 it would have allowed me to take Willem Drew at 30 still and with 33 if a bid on Brad Scheer would be matched Dylan Clarke would have been my choice.
Hindsight:
32: Sam Collins
58: Anthony McDonald Tipungwuti
One I felt for a few years now should have been drafted. Finally did and has been incredible.
63: Sam Menegola
Menegola as a mature age midfielder is a tall, big bodied midfielder with excellent endurance and the ability to push forward and offer scoreboard impact. He has improved significantly this past season and his all-round game is much better than when he was on Hawthorn and Fremantle's rookie lists as an advanced and AFL ready midfielder now.
65: Tom Papley
66. Dan Houston
Rookie draft:
7. Luke Ryan (2016 draft)
25. Tim Kelly (2017 draft)
42. Liam Ryan (2017 draft)
55. Brody Mihocek (2017 rookie draft)
*I would have Tom Stewart in under hindsight except I can't imagine he would have nominated for the draft in 2015 given he only just was about to make the move into the VFL from local football.
Blake Hardwick at 32 is an obvious alternative choice if you're not trilled about Collins needed to be delisted and then redrafted to become a good player.
*Summary - We both got Phillips. Sier remains heading into the 2021 season a wait and see but picking Menegola I'll give myself the points for 2015.
2014 edition:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/knightsight-v-hinesight-v-hindsight.1082834/
2013 edition:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/hinesight-knightsight-and-hindsight-end-of-2013.1041937/
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(That sentence there is like doing two balks then three blind turns then kicking the ball 50m the wrong way before tripping over your own foot!)
