Play Nice Richmond, set to become the biggest club in Australia, now with 100K members

[walhawk]

A ferry lol

Its convenient because it never happens.

When was the last time Hawthorn played Gold Coast at the MCG and what was the crowd?

2013 28,112
Can't compare to Richmond's crowd that year as you sold the game to Cairnes.
Any further questions?

 

[Hawkk]

No they wont. The Hawks are the most successful team of the modern era and only just behind the Pies who have only one 2 flags since 1958 and only slightly above Richmond who hasn't won a flag since 1980. A Tiger or Pie flag would have them jump away from the hawks by a conciderable margin a thhird Hawk flag in a row won't see any sizable increase.

Could have said the same after 2008 or 2012, 2013, 2014 or 2015

Fact is in terms of members Hawthorn has closed in on Collingwood and continues to grow year on year (as we have since 2006) by several thousand (+4000 in 2012, +3000 in 2013, +4000 in 2014 and +5000 in 2015)

Hawthorn has drawn 60,000 plus to 6 of 8 MCG games. In 2008 Hawthorn only drew 60,000 plus to 2 games all season (and before that we had only drawn 60,000 plus to 3 games from 1925-2007)

 

[walhawk]

The most successful clubs have alsways been the most popular.
Blues & Pies forever.
Blues until recently
Melbourne in 50s - 60s.
Tigers after 5 flags 67 - 80.
Hawks after 80s & current success.
Is it any surprise that the teams with the least flags (North, Saints, Dogs) have struggled the most?

 

[TiggerMan22]

i would be ashamed to know anyone who subscribes to a newspaper online to read their articles

Just google the headline, open it though google and it bypasses needing a subscription. Sometimes need to clear your cookies to get it to work.

 

[Papa G]

There's a mockery being made but it's the other way around. We're suburban clubs outdrawing state teams. Richmond and Collingwood regularly draw 50000+ to home fixtures.

Port is a suburban club. So is Freo to a degree.

Collingwood and Richmond are aided by at least 6 derby home games a year, generally aided by 2 or 3 games against other "Big 4" teams, which brings significant away support generally aided by excellent timeslots (Richmond only recently to be fair) . If you can't see that, there really is no point. Hawkk has actually provided excellent analysis, if you cant take that on board and just want to troll, then enjoy.

 

[kranky al]

Just google the headline, open it though google and it bypasses needing a subscription. Sometimes need to clear your cookies to get it to work.

If your phone / pad has reader view that will bypass a paywall as well

 

[Bazzar]

This isn't open for further disscussion, but it's a good read

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/richmond-3-0-75.678737/

 

[Rezza Tiger]

Port is a suburban club. So is Freo to a degree.

Collingwood and Richmond are aided by at least 6 derby home games a year, generally aided by 2 or 3 games against other "Big 4" teams, which brings significant away support generally aided by excellent timeslots (Richmond only recently to be fair) . If you can't see that, there really is no point. Hawkk has actually provided excellent analysis, if you cant take that on board and just want to troll, then enjoy.

Theres no trolling I backed up my claims with numbers and context. Hawkk provides nothing but useless numbers with no context (sometimes speculation). We all know you have a bug up your ass about the big 4 but thats your issue.

Richmond is the most marketable club in the AFL and will turn everything on it's head with some sustained success. There would be no bigger premiership celebration right now than a Tiger one.

 

[blaisee]

2013 28,112

So Richmond drew 10,000 more people than Hawthorn playing the same opponent at the same venue.

Thanks for clearing that up

 

[CountryRace]

I think Richmond could possibly become the biggest club in Victoria but Collingwood would be bigger overall because Collingwood seems to have a lot of fans everywhere.

West Coast should also be considered in terms of being the biggest club. Yes the fanbase is heavily concentrated in WA but it's pretty big and is probably the most underutilised fanbase in the country.

rubbish wait till (if) richmond a flag

itll go haywire

 

[Hawkk]

So Richmond drew 10,000 more people than Hawthorn playing the same opponent at the same venue.

Thanks for clearing that up

Sort of like comparing Hawthorn's attendances against Sydney, West Coast, Geelong, Collingwood at the same venue, against the same opponent

Albeit the gap is considerably larger

Go figure

 

[Hawkk]

This isn't open for further disscussion, but it's a good read

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/richmond-3-0-75.678737/

So you missed all three targets then right

 

[blaisee]

Could have said the same after 2008 or 2012, 2013, 2014 or 2015

Fact is in terms of members Hawthorn has closed in on Collingwood and continues to grow year on year (as we have since 2006) by several thousand (+4000 in 2012, +3000 in 2013, +4000 in 2014 and +5000 in 2015)

)

Why do you persist in including your members from Tasmania in your overall members numbers, but exclude your crowd numbers in Tasmania?

You do understand that this is completely deluded?

 

[blaisee]

The most successful clubs have alsways been the most popular.
Blues & Pies forever.
Blues until recently
Melbourne in 50s - 60s.
Tigers after 5 flags 67 - 80.
Hawks after 80s & current success.
Is it any surprise that the teams with the least flags (North, Saints, Dogs) have struggled the most?

this is the point

And it is the reason why Richmond is the biggest AFL football club in the land. We have not had success, but we still pull the lost crowds and most members.

Its what separates us from the rest, especially Hawthorn

 

[Rezza Tiger]

So you missed all three targets then right

No you missed a couple of targets. 3 finals series and zero debt. Thats 2/3.

Hows your maths?

 

[CountryRace]

No you missed a couple of targets. 3 finals series and zero debt. Thats 2/3.

Hows your maths?

71 000 + members too

 

[bradydaw91]

Sort of like comparing Hawthorn's attendances against Sydney, West Coast, Geelong, Collingwood at the same venue, against the same opponent

Albeit the gap is considerably larger

Go figure

So why do you just continue to ignore the context of those attendances? Some of the points you make are fine but really turning a blind eye to this makes it hard to take you seriously. Hawthorn as a top 4 contender against a fellow top 4 contender will always draw a huge neutral crowd. especially from 2008 - present. Im talking +20k difference.

 

[blaisee]

Sort of like comparing Hawthorn's attendances against Sydney, West Coast, Geelong, Collingwood at the same venue, against the same opponent

Albeit the gap is considerably larger

Go figure

you are either completely deluded, or chronically and medically insecure, or both

Either way, enjoy your reality, it must be a very lonely place.

 

[CountryRace]

hawthorn is a small club in victoria

lets be honest

richmond and collingwood are clear 1 + 2

 

[blaisee]

So why do you just continue to ignore the context of those attendances? Some of the points you make are fine but really turning a blind eye to this makes it hard to take you seriously. Hawthorn as a top 4 contender against a fellow top 4 contender will always draw a huge neutral crowd. especially from 2008 - present. Im talking +20k difference.

because he is insecure.

Ignore him

 

[Rezza Tiger]

71 000 + members too

Could almost tick that one off too if you were a generous marker

 

[CountryRace]

because he is insecure.

Ignore him

the whole "big 4" thing must be upsetting

 

[blaisee]

hawthorn is a small club in victoria

lets be honest

richmond and collingwood are clear 1 + 2

Not only an opinion, but also backed up with facts

 

[blaisee]

the whole "big 4" thing must be upsetting

especially when you sell home games to Tasmania, and still cant get in. lol

 

[CountryRace]

Not only and opinion, but also backed up with facts

facts. yes

mainstream opinion is, historically the 'big' melbourne clubs are; richmond, collingwood, efc, carlton

nothing wrong with being a small-ish club but

well done hawks