Preview Round 18 - Melbourne Demons vs Brisbane Lions • Friday 14 July 2023 • 7:50 PM • MCG

[Section 5]

Where are you seeing these "pressure ratings"?

I assume they come from the AFL app under "pressure acts"
You have to click on each player, scroll down to see how many
Lyons 21, Neale 20, McCluggage & Ashcroft 19, Bailey 15, Zorko 13, Dev & Wilmot 12, Cameron 10 being the main ones from last week.

However, they could be listed somewhere else and easier to look at.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Pressure acts is one statistical metric. PA in the stats. The commentators also mentioned it in the call.

 

[Nathan Barley]

I assume they come from the AFL app under "pressure acts"
You have to click on each player, scroll down to see how many
Lyons 21, Neale 20, McCluggage & Ashcroft 19, Bailey 15, Zorko 13, Dev & Wilmot 12, Cameron 10 being the main ones from last week.

However, they could be listed somewhere else and easier to look at.

Dunkley has only had less than 21 pressure acts in 1 game this season (excluding the Richmond game)

 

[Grasshopper17]

For anyone wondering how relevant pressure acts actually are as a statistical measure of impact on a game:

 

[braddsey]

Public service announcement re Friday's game: for any of my fellow Mernda or Hurstbridge line travellers, don't hang around celebrating the win for too long after the match. Bus replacement services will be running after 11pm.

 

[3KZ is Football]

For anyone wondering how relevant pressure acts actually are as a statistical measure of impact on a game:

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Want to see lots of them in our forward half. Coaches know how important team defence and pressure acts are.

 

[Nathan Barley]

For anyone wondering how relevant pressure acts actually are as a statistical measure of impact on a game:

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Tends to have a lot to do with not being able to win the footy but being in the vicinity of someone who does

 

[FFB1]

I think Lyons has to stay if Dunks is out, and possibly Robertson to sub in case he has a stinker. Though I reckon Fages will back him and put Fort as sub to provide a second ruck late in the game.

Quietly confident on this one, I think it will be a low scoring affair but I think our defence vs their forwards is stronger than their defence vs our forwards - we just have too many routes to goal.

Lions by 18

Based on season and past 6 for and against medians for both clubs I’ve got us saluting by 9pts, 84 to 75 (match score 159).

 

[Grasshopper17]

Want to see lots of them in our forward half. Coaches know how important team defence and pressure acts are.

And that brings us to our concerns with Lyons. When the ball is in a contested situation at stoppage, no issue. Apart from his tendency to handball more than kick, which indicates an inability to drive the legs out of congestion... Something Neale has worked incredibly hard at since he arrived at the club. But let's look past this... Crawl before we walk.

It's what happens when the ball leaves the stoppage situation and we don't have it. He just can't, or doesn't, chase. On-ball pressure I'm okay with. Team defence: massive problem, and it's actually exacerbated by the fact that he's replaced Dunkley in the team, who has really led the way in that regard.

Don't get me wrong, if he's selected I'll be very happy for him to prove me completely wrong on Friday night. But on what we've seen, even before his injury issues last year, I'd much prefer to see Dev Rob in that defensive midfield role. Because he absolutely does chase back when we lose the ball.

 

[jasonrampage2010]

Apparently dunks is an outside chance to play

 

[Grasshopper17]

Apparently dunks is an outside chance to play

Where are you hearing this?

 

[Nunez]

Apparently dunks is an outside chance to play

Dunks not playing

Daylight

Dirt

The earth's core

Dunks chance of playing

 

[Elixuh]

Dunks not playing

Daylight

Dirt

The earth's core

Dunks chance of playing

Ffs there is nothing deeper than the earths core. Haven’t you seen the popular 2003 film The Core where the science behind the core is explained.

 

[M Malice]

Where are you seeing these "pressure ratings"?

That is another one of those stats that I would love to hear how they determine it. By the eye test Lyons doesn't strike me as a guy that applies a lot of pressure.

 

[irel]

If we expect Lyons to be a like for like Dunks replacement then we are deluding ourselves. However if Lyons does retain his spot in the team it would be with an adjusted strategy and different metric requirements placed on Lyons.

The closest like for like for Dunks is Sharp. I noted that Sharp basically played the Dunkley role in the reserves vs Northern Bullants on the weekend and absolutely dominated.

 

[rye]

the closest we can get to having dunkley's defensive effort around the ball is to play berry there

might be the type of game where we reduce mccluggage's inside time somewhat to give berry a specific role

 

[Elixuh]

Without Oliver, isn’t petracca their only real burst player out of the middle?
Viney is either rocks or diamonds.
I don’t necessarily think we need Bez to play a full game in the middle like he has done previously.

 

[martinson]

Dunks not playing

Daylight

Dirt

The earth's core

Dunks chance of playing

My initial reaction when Dunks was hobbling around with the ice pack was that it was reasonably significant and he could be out for a while.

The club is like the Kremlin on injury updates.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Wonder what our match ups down back look like... Payne to Brown... Andrews to Gawn/Grundy... Starce to Petracca... McKenna on Pickett?

 

[Nathan Barley]

Wonder what our match ups down back look like... Payne to Brown... Andrews to Gawn/Grundy... Starce to Petracca... McKenna on Pickett?

Lester to Petracca?

 

[Elixuh]

Wonder what our match ups down back look like... Payne to Brown... Andrews to Gawn/Grundy... Starce to Petracca... McKenna on Pickett?

I know petracca played a lot more forward last week but I highly doubt that’ll happen against us. Supply out of the middle will be more of an issue for them against us and without Oliver, Petracca is their premo mid.

 

[M Malice]

Wonder what our match ups down back look like... Payne to Brown... Andrews to Gawn/Grundy... Starce to Petracca... McKenna on Pickett?

I like all of them, I also think Wilmot could do a job on Kossie. Their inside midfield is pretty one dimensional without Oliver(inj) and Petracca in there, if he goes into the mid rotation put Berry on him.

Their wingers have elite running capacity so we need to have guys on the wing who can go with them, could be Berry if he isn't required for a job on Petracca... I wonder if Harry Sharp could be under consideration this week.

 

[martinson]

Lester to Petracca?

Steady on.

But I'd like to see it. Just because.

 

[Dalions]

That is another one of those stats that I would love to hear how they determine it. By the eye test Lyons doesn't strike me as a guy that applies a lot of pressure.

He certainly doesn’t provide any pressure on the outside

 

[buttermuffs]

Apparently dunks is an outside chance to play

We don’t need him on the wing we need him on ball!


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