The AFL has charged Essendon with doping offenses [AFL 360 14/8, The Australian 15/8]

[PieBeast]

This fact seems to be lost on all Essendon supporters. And if as expected they aren't capable of proving this wasn't the case the charge will stick with the ASADA infractions against the whole club a distinct possibility. Let's see if Mr Dank is prepared to face ASADA and help Essendon's fate.

 

[acesand8s]

Oops

 

[1970crow]

source?

 

[Leather Poisoning]

Oops

Black oops.

 

[FuManchu]

source?

I'm hazarding a guess: Fox Footy, but I don't want to start any rumours!

 

[markm106]

Seems pretty clear the club could not produce clear records of who got what. That's a big concern for the club and players welfare.

 

[Big Fozza]

can't wait for the herd of efc supporters saying whately is full of shit. 5 weeks after they praised him...


gunna be good

 

[PieBeast]

source?

Don't ever change.

 

[Lester Burnham]

Perhaps this explains why, as yet, no players have been charged with doping. The AFL has the leverage that if the club does not accept this charge the AFL will 'be forced' to establish proof and in the process go after the players. Who will blink first?

 

[Nick C]

Rubbish.
Its a 'governance' charge around record keeping.

 

[mxett]

I bet its actually for the use of AOD. This is the way the afl will punish the staff and not the players

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

Haven't you heard, it's for bad governance.

Because every club that is poorly governed gets punished by the AFL

 

[PieBeast]

I bet its actually for the use of AOD. This is the way the afl will punish the staff and not the players

Possibly and I'll be glad if thats the case.

But charging the club with doping offenses gives the AFL massive leverage in the upcoming negotiations and potential court battles.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Ummm... what?

 

[Brain Power]

Black oops.

Say that again?

 

[PieBeast]

Rubbish.
Its a 'governance' charge around record keeping.

Ummm... what?

And people call us Pies fans illiterate.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Rubbish.
Its a 'governance' charge around record keeping.

yes, poor governance and record keeping that created an environment where players may have taken prohibited substances.

 

[clogged]

Perhaps this explains why, as yet, no players have been charged with doping. The AFL has the leverage that if the club does not accept this charge the AFL will 'be forced' to establish proof and in the process go after the players. Who will blink first?

Ding ding ding ding ding!

Is this the end game? Hird destroys the club or let's himself be destroyed. Or maybe he knows the AFL are extremely reluctant to go after the players and this is why he is taking them on.

 

[TheMcGrathMan]

Rubbish.
Its a 'governance' charge around record keeping.

Yeah, exactly.

It's not a 'governance' charge around the fact that high-ranking Essendon officials were unable to guarantee the safety of their players for weeks.

It's not a 'governance' charge around the belief that

'In early 2012, there appears to have been no structured follow up, monitoring or recording of compliance with the wishes of the coach'

. Hird talked the talk about it having to be on the narrow etc, which is excellent when negotiating punishments if that's the sole route EFC and Hird went down, but failed to bother to make sure it was. Dank may not have crossed the line, but Hird put his trust in the wrong person. Poor governance around record keeping, yeah right.

Or the marginalisation of key, qualified medical staff.

etc etc.

It's just a governance charge around record keeping.

Nothing to see here. Hird shouldn't even have to front the charges!

 

[Nick C]

yes, poor governance and record keeping that created an environment where players may have taken prohibited substances.

But didn't.

One thing is for certain, in a systematic undertaking you have to delegate responsibility.
Was that responsibility misplaced or even abused?
Who knows? Not you!

 

[pepsi]

AFL:

"The AFL also advised that in relation to Essendon players, although WADA has declared AOD-9604 is a banned substance, on the information before the AFL there is no specific Anti-Doping Rule violation attributed to any individual player for use of AOD-9604 or any other prohibited substance. "

 

[Broken_Chairs]

But didn't.

One thing is for certain, in a systematic undertaking you have to delegate responsibility.
Was that responsibility misplaced or even abused?
Who knows? Not you!

the key word in that sentence was "may". it's all about the situation that essendon's many organisational failures created.

 

[1970crow]

Ding ding ding ding ding!

Is this the end game? Hird destroys the club or let's himself be destroyed. Or maybe he knows the AFL are extremely reluctant to go after the players and this is why he is taking them on.

So you're saying the afl has access to evidence that will prove that essendon players took banned substances. But they will turn a blind eye to this if essendon don't rock the boat on the club charges. Seriously, that's the worst conspiracy theory I've read yet.

 

[Nick C]

Yeah, exactly.

It's not a 'governance' charge around the fact that high-ranking Essendon officials were unable to guarantee the safety of their players for weeks.

It's not a 'governance' charge around the belief that
. Hird talked the talk about it having to be on the narrow etc, which is excellent when negotiating punishments if that's the sole route EFC and Hird went down, but failed to bother to make sure it was. Dank may not have crossed the line, but Hird put his trust in the wrong person. Poor governance around record keeping, yeah right.

Or the marginalisation of key, qualified medical staff.

etc etc.

It's just a governance charge around record keeping.

Nothing to see here. Hird shouldn't even have to front the charges!

There shouldn't be any charges.
The AFL has become a corrupt & greasy PR machine.
I hope it is exposed for what it is.

As Leigh Matthews says: No rules have been broken. If the AFL don't like it, change the rules.

Everything else is about perception management (where the AFL has manipulated the perception).
And where justice is concerned, perception is NOT reality.

 

[clogged]

So you're saying the afl has access to evidence that will prove that essendon players took banned substances. But they will turn a blind eye to this if essendon don't rock the boat on the club charges. Seriously, that's the worst conspiracy theory I've read yet.

I hope you do know that governing bodies have covered up doping violations before. The AFL can't cover this up, but they can attempt to protect the most valuable asset - the players.