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Thats some good news. Hopefully.
The bottom line is every one wants a team in tassie but can they survive.
The bottom line is every one wants a team in tassie but can they survive.
Aside from the financial side of things, other things that need to be looked at are,
How many teams is a good number in the whole afl comp. I believe the the 18 team comp is a good number.
Where will the team in tassie be based? So much has been spoken of this north vs south divide will it effect the supporter base?. North and hawthorn don't exactly pull massive crowds there and the whole overall population isn't so big
The Mercury has a similar article, and if you read the comments you quickly realise that the idea of massive, unified, support is a pipe dream. Only 21 comments, but not one would be described as unqualified support for the idea, with several strongly opposed.
http://www.themercury.com.au/sport/...a-team-effort/comments-fnj4f7h7-1226862240976
I may have questions on the viability, but no argument that thsi should have been on the agenda seriously for some time now. Tassie have enough runs on the board to at least deserve that
In all fairness, most of the people that comment on news websites are trolls, and the rest are mentally challenged.
If you use the imbeciles that make comments on Newspaper sites as your guide, you are sillier than I thought.
As opposed to blindly ignoring anything that doesn't suit your argument?
Pot. Kettle. Black
Oh? And what have I ignored?
Nothing, just the bleeding obvious. You accuse others of doing just what you do. Ignoring what doesnt suit your own argument.
If it's so obvious, enlighten me.
Google it, simple as that.
I googled 'it'...There is a stephen king book/film and a bunch on information tehcnology. Not sure how any apply.
Have you been caught out making a silly statement you can't support again, but this time you're unable to weasel out with semantics?
The pot calling the kettle black is just a phrase or 'idiom' meant to convey the idea that you accuse others of doing what you do yourself when you discuss, or 'argue' a point.
If you still cant get it, then someone else will need to explain to you that you do exactly what you accuse others of doing when discussing points of proof of opinion on BF.
ie Try looking in a mirror!
Yes, you accused me of doing what I accused others of (in this case "blindly ignoring anything that doesn't suit your argument").
I'm asking you to justify that allegation, and as usual, when called upon for substance, you attack the person asking you to do so rather than backing up your statement with anything verifiable.
Alright Telsor, you keep saying that Tassie can't afford a team, I have responded numerous times with why I think they could with favourable stadium deals, govt support, high levels of community involvement, a 2 stadium approach, sponsorship etc. You have countered again and again with the fact you don't think Tassie could raise the funds that someone like North or the Bulldogs could. I have asked on several occassions where does North get all it's cash from (I use North because they don't have Pokies putting them further behind the eight ball) and no body seems to be able to adequately answer it. Is it all from sponsorship?? I find it hard to believe the 10th best supported club in Melbourne, with a poor stadium deal could some how be swimming sponsorship dollars but a Tasmanian team couldn't scratch together a decent sponsor? A Tasmanian team would have advantages that the smaller Vic teams just don't have. They will have blanket media in Tasmania. As I've said numerous times, there is no competition from anything else in Tassie, no soccer, rugby, netball, basketball let alone another football team. The will be Tassie's very own team in the sport that they love most. But no, no, lets be patronising and say thtey couldn't possibly do it. Seriously, I think they'd be a raging success.
You've missed the point, again
Pot. Kettle. Black
Nothing, just the bleeding obvious. You accuse others of doing just what you do. Ignoring what doesnt suit your own argument.
Google it, simple as that.
Look, I cant 'prove' anything about my footy discussions. Who can on here.
I guess I look at the situation & make my points with some knowledge of footy politics & economics (101 level at least!), both here & on the mainland.
I do know some people who have been engaged in local & AFL footy over the years & talk to them on occassion, that gives me some insites.
I dont just make blind assertions, I know it wont be straight forward, I've said many times that in a 12 or 14 0r 16 team AFL, that Tassie probably wouldnt get a look in, but since its an 18 team competition I find it plain wrong that we get to PAY for 2 FIFO clubs but get fobbed off when it comes to a team of our own. I believe the economics are affordable & the social benefits, invaluable for this place.
However you seem incapable of looking outside your Victorian bubble.
It AINT the VFL anymore.
No, I keep saying that whatever team Tassie could afford would be roughly equivilent, financially, to the weaker Vic teams (the ones that you guys want to get rid of).
I just keep wanting you guys to be consistant.
Do we drop teams that can't keep up financially (as you want for the weaker Vic clubs) in which case, Tas doesn't cut it, or do we allow teams to stay (enter) on sentiment, allowing both a (likely subsidised) Tas team and for the weaker Vic clubs to remain.
I keep explaining why a Tas team would be roughly equivilent (a pretty simple matter of population, economy and lack of growth along with the example of the first team in other football states) and get the rhetorical equivilent of 'yeah, nah' as a reply.
Yes, Tas will get sponsorship something like North....but you can't use that as an argument because you want to get rid of North!
You need to show how you will be significantly better than what you want to replace in order to justify such a move.
Or admit it's a matter of sentiment, and acknowledge the right of the weaker Vic clubs to continue in the comp on that basis.