Player Watch Tom Doedee - Departed for Brisbane, End of 1st Round FA Compensation

[Tex Danger]

Yes, I came into this free agency period assuming we'd get a second rounder for him, and was dismayed when the talk seemed to be either band 3 or band 4.

Glad that sanity has prevailed

You do realize band 3 and 4 and both 2nd rounders?

 

[King Elvis]

He’s all class even at the end. View attachment 1826680

Yeah, seems like a fantastic bloke.

Sad to see him go, but I think it's one of those situations where everybody wins - wish him all the best and hopefully he can have a good run up there.

 

[BrissyCrow]

In effect that's what it really is with all the Academy picks and compo picks...I don't get why it should be of any concern to you you're getting a good player for nought other than his salary which your list management has signed off on.

I think your lost. I am a Crows supporter/member you goose. You know for a guy who appears to be very knowledgeable you cant even deduce that I am a crows supporter. So what player am I getting for nought??

 

[cmndstab]

You do realize band 3 and 4 and both 2nd rounders?

Whoops - I meant band 2.

 

[UcantCme]

Mostyn might remember this too

In the early 2000’s Matthew Croft was approaching a games trigger on his contract late into the season. He’d played virtually every game

WB benched him in the 2’s so he wouldn’t hit that trigger.

He either took them to court or threatened to

It got very nasty.

The family might not be as rusted on as everyone thinks

not sure why players and agents agree to the clause at it can be manipulated by clubs


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[AFC979810]

He never really recovered from his first one. Hasn't hit the same form since. Not saying he has been no good, but he was on track to become one of the best intercept players in the game as well as a handy medium defender. Now he's just a handy medium defender.

This is a fantastic result. I don't think he'd be worth that even without the knee.

Absolutely spot on.

He is a decent medium defender.

Was best 22 at our club, but even before his knee 2nd Knee injury was not a top 15 player for a side that didnt make the finals this year.

Him leaving is the perfect result for our squad and getting pick 19 is just the cherry on top.

 

[Sanders]

Mostyn might remember this too

In the early 2000’s Matthew Croft was approaching a games trigger on his contract late into the season. He’d played virtually every game

WB benched him in the 2’s so he wouldn’t hit that trigger.

He either took them to court or threatened to

It got very nasty.

The family might not be as rusted on as everyone thinks

This is an example of the same thing.

Dishonest actions to achieve predetermined outcomes:

“Made me feel like s--t”: The “unprofessional” game review that triggered Mitchell’s Hawks departure

“That was the signed, sealed, delivered. I knew after that meeting, 'I'm not coming back'.”

www.sen.com.au

Don’t tell me the Sam Mitchell regime ain’t going to send in abject failure

 

[Miss Vanessa]

I don’t quite get all the hoo-hah about Doedee’s free agency compensation. Every year there are questionable decisions about compensation…

I’m still not sure why there even is compensation for free agency. Do away with restricted free agency all together and have a system whereby players are free to move at the end of their contracts at the end of so many years of service. Make it simple.

To avoid stronger clubs consistently poaching talent from the weaker clubs, you could easily implement a tax on the Salary or Soft cap for higher placed teams signing players from lower ranked teams.

So Brisbane want to sign Doedee from the Crows? They can but it reduces their overall Soft Cap spend by a few %. The Crows get nothing sure, but Brisbane are weakened slightly in another way… the bigger the differential, the bigger the tax. Collingwood want to sign a free agent from West Coast? They can, but it will cost them in a pretty major way… thinking in the fly, perhaps 0.5% Soft Cap Tax for every position differential…

I don’t know - but the current system in place is crapola. It compromises the draft in a major way and very rarely compensates a club according to the level of the player lost.

 

[Sanders]

The biggest problem with free agency compo can be seen in the case of Lachie Schulz

Freo don’t want to trade him this year because they will get more for him in FA compo next year

If there was no compo they’d have to trade him now

Free agency compensation clogs up greater player movement

 

[Golumless]

I don’t quite get all the hoo-hah about Doedee’s free agency compensation. Every year there are questionable decisions about compensation…

I’m still not sure why there even is compensation for free agency. Do away with restricted free agency all together and have a system whereby players are free to move at the end of their contracts at the end of so many years of service. Make it simple.

To avoid stronger clubs consistently poaching talent from the weaker clubs, you could easily implement a tax on the Salary or Soft cap for higher placed teams signing players from lower ranked teams.

So Brisbane want to sign Doedee from the Crows? They can but it reduces their overall Soft Cap spend by a few %. The Crows get nothing sure, but Brisbane are weakened slightly in another way… the bigger the differential, the bigger the tax. Collingwood want to sign a free agent from West Coast? They can, but it will cost them in a pretty major way… thinking in the fly, perhaps 0.5% Soft Cap Tax for every position differential…

I don’t know - but the current system in place is crapola. It compromises the draft in a major way and very rarely compensates a club according to the level of the player lost.

I assume that kind of system would run afoul of at least one labor law.

That said, I think compensation is a fair attempt at making a system that should have never been implemented - and we are stuck with - viable. After all, anything that doesn't give draft picks/on field compensation disproportionately hurts non-Victorian clubs, considering an absurd amount of draftees are Victorian and that there isn't a reliable mechanism to bring in ready-made talent outside of Victoria. Especially problematic as we've seen in the last 15 years that group of clubs fall off the map when it comes to flags.

Another major problen is the one way to make this system work is to allow non-consent trading, however the AFL has missed that boat by now having a players union. It's their job to make sure that never happens.

It could be refined to a similar system to baseball where it's just end of round picks. You compromise the 2nd round onwards, but by that point of the draft - who cares. It also removes a level of subjectivity that is currently present.