I have a cynical opinion that Sam Mitchell wants to “ de-Clarkson” the place.
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There is a theory they want to get their bottoming out done before the mooted Tasmanian team expansion gets implemented.
sr36
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He'd have to be stupidly arrogant. He's an unproven coach. How can he survive a long period at the bottom?
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Well it wasn’t really cheap, Cooper Stephens is talent and 40 & 51 can be packaged for a good pick with others, we just have no use for him playing him on a HFF instead of in the guts!
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Don’t think we are paying much if at all of his contract.
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AND O'Meara in the one trade period.
There's a tipping point where you can lose too much experience so they're dicing with danger.
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40 and 51 will come in a fair few spots with pick matching, but even so, this isn't looking like the draft to be trying to trade out or up, as most lists are pretty full with clubs not taking many so that devalues later picks and next year's draft is supposedly more highly rated. I hope you're right with Stephens.
You'd already shifted O'Meara - surely there is still a midfield spot for him.
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Totally agree. And Gunston. I think it's nuts, particularly when you add in the indigenous scandal. Definite possibility that they are heading for a period of basket case.
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Nope, Sam wants the kids to have all the mid time, no point Tom dominating it doesn’t teach the kids much as there’s not many mids like him.
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Imagine if we punted Pendles, Rusty and say Checkers because we wanted to give more time to the kids.
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I never said he wasn’t stupidly arrogant!
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I think it's really flawed thinking.
Kids develop better in a decent team.
Heaps of the star mids spent their formative years developing on a flank with occasional midfield rotations. Why doe he need these kids to play only mid? Doesn't look to me like he's got a big batch of quality young mids who are starved of opportunity.
It worked last time...
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Especially bold given the skipper also retired.
To be fair many if not most wanted Sidey delisted/dropped/phased out 12 months ago
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Is what it is, opens up some spots for more kids so guess that’s the end thinking.
Good luck packaging those picks. They don’t seem to hold a lot of interest this year. We also had 50 which will likely expire worthless
I reckon you’ll end up taking them to the draft.
I think on balance it was a good trade for hawthorn, a great trade for Collingwood, and a very expensive trade for Geelong if you take into account the pick switch they had to do to gain pick 25. They sold the farm for that pick and then they still had to give up Stephens on top of that.
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You literally said his job is to mark time until Nick comes in. I’m saying you’re wrong, and that he’s not there to protect Nick. He’s there to feed the ball to him.
Got it?
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Was either cash in now or lose them next year for nothing.
There was no way Mitchell and JOM are extending on their contracts from 2023 on wards, especially given we consider them surplus to requirements two seasons running. We at least maximised their value (albeit probably less true market value) for two players who clearly did not fit in the way that Sam wants to play his footy. From watching both Box Hill last year and Hawthorn this year, the Sam Mitchell blueprint puts an emphasis on the speed of ball movement which is the antithesis to how Mitchell and JOM (and Clarkson) play.
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Clarkson got rid of the bulk of the senior experienced players when he took over at the Hawks. If anything it feels like Sam is trying to replicate that, but with a far less talented core of youth.
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Trying to say Mitch Lewis and Jacob Koschitzke aren't Buddy and Roughead 2.0?
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Also to be fair, I wasn't in that group. But yes, that was a common refrain.
