- Mar 29, 2005
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Revised list:
- Marcus Bontempelli
- Luke Parker
- Tom Liberatore
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It is when it comes to consistency but Bennell on talent alone would be number 1.Yeah it's not even close.
Heppell is better than that lot.Revised list:
- Marcus Bontempelli
- Luke Parker
- Tom Liberatore
Nah, he's more consistent and more talented than Brad Hill. He had five games this year with less than 20 touches, he kicked 7 goals in them, only 3 games where he didn't kick a goal (15 games total).It is when it comes to consistency but Bennell on talent alone would be number 1.
Only 2 of the 3 lol.Heppell is better than that lot.
Parker is debatable. Libba is on his way and Bonts is still a 2yo Colt.Only 2 of the 3 lol.
Not sure goals are a stat that's fair to Hill he is busting his arse up the wings trying to hit his forwards on the tit, Bennell spends plenty of time in the F50.Nah, he's more consistent and more talented than Brad Hill. He had five games this year with less than 20 touches, he kicked 7 goals in them, only 3 games where he didn't kick a goal (15 games total).
Brad had 9 games under 20, only 1 goal in those games, 12 total games without goals (22 games total).
That's despite Bennell missing the preseason and first 6 games with injury.
They aren't close as players, and that's saying something given Brad is good.
Bennell has a higher percentage of his games with over 20 possessions than Brad does. He's not lazy, he has a massive work rate, unless you mean his first couple of games when he was clearly unfit on his return. If he enters the season healthy i expect he'll have a massive year and be seen as one of the breakout mids who gets talked about as an AA level player.Not sure goals are a stat that's fair to Hill he is busting his arse up the wings trying to hit his forwards on the tit, Bennell spends plenty of time in the F50.
Brad also copped a knee injury and struggled for a few weeks before having 2 weeks off.
The difference is Brad doesn't look lazy when he is struggling where Bennell does.
Bennell would be freaky if he had Brads work ethic.
Hopefully it will come for Bennell this year and if it does the Coast will be top 6.
Was gonna go with the 2yo Colt. I thought Libba doesn't perform when Griffen isn't there? Now he won't be able to perform whilst copping the tag!Parker is debatable. Libba is on his way and Bonts is still a 2yo Colt.
I saw half a dozen games live that Bennell played and was disappointed at times, maybe due to the ability he has.Bennell has a higher percentage of his games with over 20 possessions than Brad does. He's not lazy, he has a massive work rate, unless you mean his first couple of games when he was clearly unfit on his return. If he enters the season healthy i expect he'll have a massive year and be seen as one of the breakout mids who gets talked about as an AA level player.
Nah, he's more consistent and more talented than Brad Hill. He had five games this year with less than 20 touches, he kicked 7 goals in them, only 3 games where he didn't kick a goal (15 games total).
Brad had 9 games under 20, only 1 goal in those games, 12 total games without goals (22 games total).
That's despite Bennell missing the preseason and first 6 games with injury.
They aren't close as players, and that's saying something given Brad is good.
Bontempelli is one of the most overated player in the aflRevised list:
- Marcus Bontempelli
- Luke Parker
- Tom Liberatore
Probably because he turned 22 in May, and was no longer eligible by the OP's strict rules ................. otherwise he's clearly the best player mentioned in this threadHeppell has the best season of any player listed and seems to fall down the rankings.
Probably because he turned 22 in May, and was no longer eligible by the OP's strict rules ................. otherwise he's clearly the best player mentioned in this thread
I'm sorry, we can't possibly be expected to explain or make sense of the insane ramblings of non-Essendon fansExcept people including the OP are still continuing to mention other 22 year olds such as Parker and Liberatore.
I like definitive statements!Probably because he turned 22 in May, and was no longer eligible by the OP's strict rules ................. otherwise he's clearly the best player mentioned in this thread
Hard pressed to argue that the guy who won the B&F in a top 8 side and made the AA team and leads them both in pretty much every statistical category was a better player than those two? If you'd said hard pressed to prove I'd agree but it's certainly eminently arguable.I like definitive statements!
A lot of the better younger players play for bad teams (GC, though improving/GWS/Dogs) and will look very very good once they start winning more. You'd be hard pressed to make an arguement that Heppell had a better year than Dion Prestia or Adam Trelor, just to name two for example.
Well statistically there is no real difference between the three, and advanced metric's such as Champion Data/Super Coach show no daylight between them.Hard pressed to argue that the guy who won the B&F in a top 8 side and made the AA team and leads them both in pretty much every statistical category was a better player than those two? If you'd said hard pressed to prove I'd agree but it's certainly eminently arguable.
Firstly, I think we're in agreement but arguing semantics. Heppell, in my view, is a better player than both (not flemington straight like hyperbole mind you) but for you to suggest that you would be "hard pressed to make an argument" is inaccurate. Heppell statistically was very similar to the two mentioned and leads them in a number of categories, the players' roles being slightly different though. Him being the only one named in the AA squad, let alone the team should be a reasonable argument. I didn't claim AA/B&F as statistically relevant or impact on the game, have to rely on my football knowledge for that.Well statistically there is no real difference between the three, and advanced metric's such as Champion Data/Super Coach show no daylight between them.
If you're basing it off club awards and AA selection, well i guess that's your call, but don't claim it as a statistical basis, or impact on the game basis.
Prestia and Treloar both had better goals contributed averages (goals + goal assists), better clearances averages, better and better tackles averages.
Not saying they are better, but to argue Heppell is clearly better is silly. Both are younger as well.
Not that I'm arguing the point but you do realise parker won the B&F at the minor premiers. Internal club rankings shouldn't matter when comparing players from different clubs as clubs value some things differently to others.Hard pressed to argue that the guy who won the B&F in a top 8 side and made the AA team and leads them both in pretty much every statistical category was a better player than those two? If you'd said hard pressed to prove I'd agree but it's certainly eminently arguable.