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How is it any different to Foxtel forcing people to get pay TV?
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How is it any different to Foxtel forcing people to get pay TV?
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How is it anti-competitive? Does Maccas have to let KFC sell Big Macs?
Forcing EPL subscribers to use Optus Internet in order to access EPL is clearly anti competitive. There is no justifiable reason as to why Optus EPL could not be provided to users of other Internet providers.
Maccas & KFC sell competing products. Terrible analogy.
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The difference is there's dozens of Internet providers available to choose from.
How many pay tv provides are there?
It would be like Foxtel doing a deal with Samsung and designing Foxtel boxes so they were compatible with Samsung televisions only. The ACCC would kill it straight away.
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Optus have exclusive rights to the EPL, just like Bein have exclusive rights to the English Championship. They do not have to sell each others products to be 'competitive'. Good analogy.
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Boy, that sounds anti-competitive! I'm surprised the ACCC hasn't shut Foxtel down.
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Nothing stopping a rival pay tv company from starting up.
I'm not talking about the selling of EPL football viewing access on its own.
I'm talking about the rumours of forcing consumers to also buy Optus Internet in order to access EPL. From my knowledge of consumer law I believe the ACCC would view that action as anti comptetive conduct.
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I own the rights to something. I force people to pay a fee to me to access those rights. What am I doing that is anti-competitive?
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Optus isn't going to force people to buy optus to watch the EPL. That's not because it's anti-competitive, it's because it just doesn't make business sense to them. Not enough people are going to switch to Optus for it to be worthwhile for them, so they will likely on-sell the transmission rights to Foxtel, or charge Foxtel a hefty fee to add an Optus channel to Fox Sports, similar to Bein.
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Isnt that the same as Fox?
They are forcing people to subscribe to their service too(you cant just get the sports package).
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Not really, in fairness. I have Fox through Optus which I think means our money goes to Optus, not Fox.
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There was another Pay TV provider called select TV who unfortunately went bust a few years ago.
They had EPL IIRC.
They had EPL IIRC.
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Don't forget Indian Super League. I watched it before. Roberto Carlos is still going there.
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I think Bein has MLS.
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It does illustrate how basically Optus came from nowhere and blew Foxtel, the existing holder of the rights, and Bein, a natural home for the EPL, out of the water.
Obviously they've crunched the numbers, but I must admit I'm still struggling to see how Optus are going to gain the appropriate 'value' out of the rights.
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I assume Bein does not show all of those live though?
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Yeah BeIN a is great.
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Which Leagues do they show live?
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As an example:
Tonight (Sunday) AEDST
10pm - Primera División (Spain) Rayo Vallecano v Málaga
11pm -League One (England) Sheffield United v Coventry City
11.25pm - SPFL St Johnstone v Celtic
12am – Ligue 1 (France) Monaco v Saint-Étienne
12.45am –Serie A (Italy) Empoli v Carpi
12.45am -Serie A (Italy) Chievo v Atalanta
1.25am - Bundesliga Augsburg v Schalke
2am - Primera División (Spain) Eibar v Valencia
3am - Ligue 1 (France) Olympique Marseille v Gazélec Ajaccio
3am - Ligue 1 (France) Angers v Bordeaux
3.30am - Bundesliga Borussia Dortmund v Eintracht Frankfurt
3.55am - Serie A Napoli v Roma
4.15am - Primera División (Spain) Atlético Madrid v Athletic Club
6am - Sunday Night Live - beIN SPORTS bring you Sunday Night Live featuring a round-up of Sunday's European football action plus the build-up to this morning's featured game, Villareal v Real Madrid
6.30am - La Liga Villareal v Real Madrid
6.30am - Serie A (Italy) Juventus v Fiorentina
7am - Ligue 1 (France) PSG v Olympique Lyonnais
Also, every UEFA Champions League and Europa League game LIVE.
